User talk:Pierre.imerir

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Imerir - advice

I am sorry that we do not make clearer to new users that, as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is not a business-listing directory or a place for people or organizations to tell the world about themselves. I have this conversation so often that I have written User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard to explain some of the background.

If you want to proceed, first think hard about Wikipedia:Notability. See WP:Notability (summary) for an idea of how it is interpreted. It is, deliberately, quite a high bar, and many perfectly worthy organizations cannot meet it. That is not at all to their discredit, but it means that they are not suitable subjects for a global encyclopedia.

If you believe you can demonstrate notability, read the Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide again, and WP:Your first article, and then use WP:Articles for creation to submit a draft for review by an uninvolved user. If you want to copy text from your website, just asserting permission is not enough - see WP:DCM for how to make a copyright release, but it may be better to write in your own words. JohnCD (talk) 21:37, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to your message on my talk page

Certainly you may submit a draft. WP:PSCOI explains how to handle a COI situation - don't post the draft directly yourself, but click the "submit" button, or if there isn't one put {{subst:submit}} at the top, which will send it for review by an uninvolved user, who will either accept it or give you feedback.

The existence of fr:Institut méditerranéen d'étude et recherche en informatique et robotique means something, but not very much, because each Wikipedia has its own rules and standards. Perhaps because en-wp is higher-profile, more people try to use it for promotion, so in reaction we are stricter about notability standards. The references in the French article would not be considered enough to meet a notability challenge - they seem to be entries about IMERIR in the lists of organizations of which it is a member (I guess that CCI is a Chambre de commerce et d'industrie), probably provided by IMERIR itself, so they help with verifiability but not with notability.

Try to make it not so much a prospectus for the organization aimed at potential students as a description of the organization from outside, aimed at a general encyclopedia reader, who can click the link for the organization's own website if he wants details of courses etc.

Check out WP:College and university article advice and WP:Avoid academic boosterism.

I wrote all the above before I actually looked at your draft, which is fine for neutrality. You could add something about the history, and the number of students. Famous godfathers are interesting, but notability is not inherited from them. What you need most is independent references.

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:29, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]