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The Signpost: 04 March 2015

re: Deleted Page Tepperman's

Hi Phantomsteve. Looks like you deleted the page for Tepperman's that I was working on (18:31, 3 February 2015 Phantomsteve (talk | contribs) deleted page Tepperman's (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tepperman's).

Is there any way for me to recover a copy of this? Based on the note above (that admins are able to revert actions by other admins), I'm hopeful that I might be able to recover the page, if only to continue working on it off-line in an effort to get to compliance. When deleted, the page was under revision (using the feedback received) to try to get it to the point where it was deemed "compliant" with the guidelines. Now that it's been deleted I've not only lost the draft, but also the feedback I was using in my efforts to reach compliance.

Any help/ direction you can offer would be appreciated. If you're able to place a short note on my talk page when you've responded here, I would also appreciate that. Ntepperman (talk) 16:00, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for contacting me. The consensus for deletion was very clear - indeed you were the only person arguing for keeping it. You have a clear conflict of interest, and having looked again at the text on the deleted page, it looked like promotional copy, despite your effects to prevent this. The references were all either press releases, or other material that was obtained from the company - or were at sites that Wikipedia would not consider to be reliable sources. I also see nothing to indicate that the company meets the notability criteria (and especially the criteria for businesses. I know that you would really like your company to have a Wikipedia article - but it does not meet the criteria for inclusion here. As such, I see nothing worth keeping in the draft, and I am therefore declining your request. Regards, PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 00:33, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 11 March 2015


kezia noblen deletion letter and request

hi there, Firstly thank you for taking the time to read this, i have been in touch with wikipedia and madia and was notified that this was the best best way to talk a deleted page through, the title kezia noble was originally deleted by yourself and i have gone through the notes of 2010 and since then kezia noble has outgrown a lot of people within her industry, She is an author of a book best seller, and has been in the news and tv chanells very often to discuss ongoings within the dating expert communities. This obviousley shows that she is a person of importance within her field as the top media enterprises are always seeking her for answers. Kezia has gone on to offering a noticed certification to her students kezia Has hit the 1million views mark for TOTAL FREE DATING ADVICE over and over on nearly all her videos on the video forums Kezia Noble References include:

Book http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13229670-the-noble-art-of-seducing-women sky news http://news.sky.com/video/1372939/dating-tips-have-gone-way-too-far This Morning ITV http://www.itv.com/thismorning/hot-topics/are-we-suspicious-of-charming-men

Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/kezia-noble/four-best-pick-up-lines_b_5645506.html

Zoo magazine http://www.zootoday.com/girls/archive/2011/09/30/kezia-noble-puas-dating-expert-says-how-to-pull-girls--plus-sexy-pictures-and-vi.htm

Esquire TV http://tv.esquire.com/shows/women-we-love

The Daily Mail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2288927/Kezia-Noble-Glamorous-sex-guru-claims-teach-men-woman-bed.html


Men’s Fitness http://www.mensfitness.co.uk/authors/kezia-noble

Men’s Health http://www.menshealth.co.uk/sex/mens-health-dating/5-flirty-ice-breakers-206957

BUZZFEED http://www.buzzfeed.com/hollybaxter/meet-the-woman-who-teaches-men-to-be-pick-up-artists#.tvkewX3pn

Sir, we are willing to take out any self promoting on our page and make any changes you will require for Kezia Noble page to be back up and running via wikipedia , any other changes and stye that you request we are willing to follow , but i can confirm that Kezia is a noticed coach worldwide and Has much media attention with lots of Free Advice that has helped millions of men around the world.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and i await your response in order to handle this matter

Faithfully

Jimmy Sandhu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kezia12121 (talkcontribs) 22:12, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

  • Thanks for contacting me. Reading the above, it is clear that you have been given the task of promoting Kezia. Indeed, all the references to you that I can find online which I can identify as being you are all promoting Kezia.
Looking at the links you have given above, they are all either minor mentions, or blatant promotion and/or interviews with Kezia (which are considered promotional, and so not independent). I can find nothing which does not appear to have come directly from you, or from Kezia. The fact that you think that a page about Kezia would be "our page" indicates your close relationship with her/her organisation - a clear conflict of interest. I see nothing to indicate that she meets the criteria for inclusion on Wikipedia. As such, I see no reason to undelete the article, or for such an article to be on Wikipedia. Regards, PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 00:47, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

dear phantom steve, firstly when i say our page i mean mine and my teams page which we are making, its nothing personal, secondly there are many dating coaches on wikipedia with self promoting all the way, even links to products etc.... heres just one as an example https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Richard_La_Ruina . could i please know why there are so many dating coaches on wikipedia who are of much less importamce than kezia please? they are using wiki as a gate way to sales when kezianoble wants to be recognised as an individual expert who provides a lot of free help and an author ?

than you for your time sir

Jimmy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kezia12121 (talkcontribs) 23:13, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Jimmy. As mentioned elsewhere, just because other stuff exists doesn't mean that this should - perhaps the others should be deleted too! You obviously think that Kezia has more importance - that is your opinion, but that does not mean that an article should exist. I see nothing in your reply that would persuade me that the thinking I outlined above is wrong, and so I do not believe that there is justification for an article on Wikipedia. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 18:05, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

WP:RFPP

Hi there's a message that relates to your protection of Cirex in 2011 at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Current requests for reduction in protection level. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 18:37, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

I see you haven't edited in a few days and the request got archived so I unprotected. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 19:55, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
No worries, if there are future problems, it can always be protected again! PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 18:07, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 18 March 2015

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The Signpost – Volume 11, Issue 12 – 25 March 2015

Moved from Wizrdman's talk page:

Hello Wizardman. I was going to create an article for the information security certification: Information Systems Security Architecture Professional and I saw that you are the Wikipedia Administrator who deleted a prior article about this topic as "No credible indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content, events))" The earlier article may not have been well written but the certification has significant coverage and industry importance. Can you please restore the old article to my userspace and I will work on it including adding any needed sources to show notability? Thank you. --Thetechgirl (talk) 18:22, 18 February 2015 (UTC) Wizardman. Would this be possible? Thank you. --Thetechgirl (talk) 19:35, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
@Thetechgirl: pinging Phantomsteve as he deleted it in 2011 as an advert. Wizardman is currently taking a wikibreak. —George8211 / T 19:46, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello George8211. Thank you. --Thetechgirl (talk) 20:36, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello Phantomsteve. Can you please restore the latest version of the article to my userspace and I will work on it including adding any needed sources to show notability? Thank you. --Thetechgirl (talk) 20:37, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Thetechgirl. There really wasn't much in the article - about 8 lines, basically a brief description of the qualifications and how to obtain the designation. The three refs that were there were included were from Info Security Magazine (which seems to be based on a press release), and the second is from the organisation's own website... neither would be considered independent. The third one was from ZDNET, and the mention of the qualification is on a list of ones that "are paying off" (so one line about this qualification, which hardly could be considered significant coverage). None of these would be suitable in themselves from what I can see. Before I would consider restoring it to your userspace, could you perhaps give a couple of sources here to indicate the kind of independent and reliable sources you would be using? Please leave a talkback on my talk page, as that is easier for me to monitor! Thanks, PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 01:40, 7 March 2015 (UTC)


Are these good? 1) There are multiple books on this topic on Amazon. 2) Also http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/magazine-features/finding-your-way-an-overview-of-information/ 3) http://www.networkworld.com/article/2294624/lan-wan/new-cissp-concentrations.html 4) http://www.zdnet.com/article/20-technology-certifications-that-are-paying-off/ 5) http://niccs.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/documents/files/FedVTE%20Course%20List%20072014.pdf 6) https://www.cccure.org/article-print-436.html 7) http://www.myinfosecjob.com/2009/12/certifications-magazine-salary-survey-cissp-concentrations-most-well-paid-professional/ --Thetechgirl (talk) 21:07, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

  • Thanks for contacting me again. The multiple books on Amazon do not indicate notability for Wikipedia's purposes; the articles listed above are either minor mentions, or press-release-type mentions. Overall, I'm not seeing the notability for this subject. Sorry. Regards, PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:00, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

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