User talk:P64/FSF/Alexander/List of Prydain characters
- Some fictions
- Middle-earth
Middle-earth redirects done years ago by WP:WPME using hard cats, some done by Paine Ellsworth recently ; Category:Middle-earth shows no hint of navbox {{Middle-earth}} or any one of a dozen other ME navbox
- Narnia
Narnia redirects ; incomplete June 2015, populated entirely by rcat templates and often with e0 explanations
- Oz (franchise) ; Category:Oz (franchise)
redirects not tagged
- Pern
redirects not tagged ; Category:Dragonriders of Pern
- Harry Potter
redirects not tagged, wikiproject converted to task force ; Category:Harry Potter --where navbox {{Harry Potter}} is again invisible (as at Category:Harry Potter task force)
- Prydain
Prydain redirects 
Done 2015-07-02 ; needs announcement/proposal to WP redirects and perhaps WP fictional characters too
- Shakespeare
Category:Shakespeare where too the navbox Category:Shakespeare is invisible (as at Category:WikiProject Shakespeare)
- 2015-06-23 related wikiprojects
- {{WPCHAR}} WP:CHAR; index + 5 talk archives from 2011-0202, -0226, -0522, -1116, [gap] 2013-1126 [now relatively inactive]
- {{WPRedirect}} WP:WPREDIRECT; 3 talk archives from 2006-1026, 2010-0110, 2014-0823 (1 section)
tell them about spring 2015 rclassification of R from person, routinely with explanation of that parameter (albeit e0 is more prominent and is stable)
tell them printworthy may be used for a Book --printworthy in Book:Narnia although not in a printed version of English Wikipedia
Category talk:Harry Potter characters#Need more pages --reply late 2015-06-23
2015-06-21 --article counts (no redirect templates or other special pages, as reported by CatScan V3.0)
- {{R fe}}
- populates the flat Category:Redirects from fictional elements (839) 851
- of which Category:Fictional element redirects to lists (36) 33
- diff 803
- Category:Narnia element redirects to lists (16) 16 + 81 + 34 = 131
- Category:Prydain element redirects to lists (0) 5 + 38 + 9 = 52
2015-06-22: the two "elements" redirect cats include the character and location as subcats, with notices at Category talk:The Chronicles of Narnia and Category talk:The Chronicles of Prydain, which main cats also include the character and location cats directly
- {{R fc}}
- populates the flat Category:Redirected fictional character articles (6031) 6039
- Category:Fictional character redirects to lists (269) 271
- diff 5764
Those two have talk pages claimed by WP Fictional characters and WP Anime
- {{R fp}}
- populates the flat Category:Redirects from fictional places (56) 2015-06-29 half Narnia and numerous Prydain
- Category:Fictional location redirects --
template {{R fw}} ; Category:Narnia redirects ; Category:Redirects by topic
top
- < !-- 2015-06-30 {underconstruction}
working toward rcat for redirects related to a work of fiction by work, that is by fiction, e.g. Middle-earth (implemented by hard category Middle-earth redirects) or Narnia; presumably to generate subcats of Redirects by topic learning from R from fictional place, or Template:R fp begin by copy/paste that template code here -->
- < !-- franchise, series, universe, etc -->
- Redirects by topic< !-- temporary --> < !-- temporary; currently unused -->
Template R fw, Prydain illustration
[edit]For The Chronicles of Prydain fantasy novel series --and related short story collection, film, and video game-- i visited all incoming redirects (61) and classified them using redirect templates; in particular, using {{Redr}}, often with some explanation by parameter e0.
Broadly this illustration uses a new redirect template, now simply {{R fw}} and undocumented, to mimic the multitudinous collection under Middle-earth redirects, which is implemented as a hard category [[Category:Middle-earth redirects]]. Further, many of the Prydain redirects are diffused to three substantial subcategories using existing redirect templates for fictional characters, elements, and places --albeit without respect to whether the redirect targets are lists. (WikiProject Middle-earth, in contrast, uses its own hierarchy of so-to-speak procedural rather than substantial subcategories. Pardon the terms.) Indeed, all except alternative and modified pagenames are in the three subcategories.
The parent Category:Prydain redirects is populated automatically by template {{R fw}}, which I created this week by copy-paste-modification of template {{R from fictional place}}. The subcat Prydain location redirects is populated automatically by {{R fp}}, which I modified last fortnight to work same as the fictional character and fictional element redirect templates {{R fc}} and {{R fe}}. (--the same, that is, except the auto-populated location redirects category name does not specify that the redirects target lists, as for the auto-populated character and element rcats. For more information see the text prefaces on the four Prydain rcat pages, Prydain redirects and its three subcats.)
P.S. Hundreds of redirects related to The Chronicles of Narnia are partly classified along the same lines, but [a] initially without benefit of the parent category, so the three subcategories contain multiple pages for some entities, and [b] I quit before its completing the task, as one too big for the illustrative purpose (see what links to The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe).
Narnia
[edit]See incoming links including many redirects to Done
- both in Category:The Chronicles of Narnia characters [in Narnia and *several* fChar cats] --containing both lists, list of actors, and 43 alpha pages inclg 6 redirects (all substantial, 3 section/anchor)
- Category:Lists of fictional locations
- Category:The Chronicles of Narnia locations [in Narnia and fLoc] --containing that list, another top page, and 10 alpha pages inclg 4 redirects (all substantial, all section/anchor)
Category:The Chronicles of Narnia (top) 20 pages inclg 3 top List of The Chronicles of Narnia related topics 3 + (special) and 14 alpha
- 1 accolades, 1+5 adaptations, 1 religion
- (6 elements/events) Battles Battle Battle DawnTreader DeplorableWord Hundred-YearWinter -- of which DawnTreader tangible
2015-06-29 related redirect categories -- each with template {{underconstruction}} and explanatory preface
List of The Chronicles of Narnia characters; List of Narnian creatures; List of places in The Chronicles of Narnia
- Category:Narnia element redirects to lists 16 (+81+34 = ) – mainly thematic or alt-name, no objects--but e.g. Rhindon redirects to character Peter Pevensie
- Category:Narnia character redirects to lists 81 [incl about 54]
- Category:Narnia location redirects 34 [incl 28]
Category:Narnia location redirects to lists (empty)
Middle-earth redirects
[edit]Category:WikiProject Middle-earth
Middle-earth (perhaps covering Tolkien) does not use this structure. Rather, {WP ME} uses 8 dedicated WikiProject Middle-earth redirect templates for diffusion to subcats on a radically different scheme, and the parent Category:Middle-earth redirects (1278) is implemented as a hard category.
- Middle-earth redirects|2 (3558); diff=2280 --where the auto-generated subcats contain about 2600 pages in sum. Reading the auto-gen subcats top to bottom, the numbers of their pages also in the parent category is 0, 0, 0, 3, 2, 0, 0, 174 -- that is 3/443 sections; 2/577 alternative names; 174/901 to lists.
- Some diffusion to auto-gen subcats has been implemented by hard categories.
- Black Breath 11 articles link here, of which 3 Middle-earth, 8 punk rock band
- Black breath 1 article links here
- in progress 2015-07-02
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Middle-earth#Category:Middle-earth redirects
[reply done 2015-07-02]
By the way, using rcat templates this fortnight I classified all 61 redirect pages related to a small fictional work in parent Prydain redirects and three subcategories. --P64 (talk) 23:29, 2 July 2015 (UTC)