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Your submission at Articles for creation: Gregory Masurovsky (August 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Paul Vaurie were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Paul Vaurie (talk) 05:07, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Paul,

I don't know the etiquette for working with people on Wikipedia, so I apologize in advance of what I'm doing constitutes some kind of breach.

I wrote a couple of weeks ago about an entry on Gregory Masurovsky and wanted to follow up. Do I address my response to you? (And I'm attaching it again in case it didn't make it through before.) Or am I supposed to take up in some other venue like the Teahouse? As a rookie, I'm feeling my way around here.

Thanks again for your efforts.

Hi Paul,

Owleyesinthelibraryhere. Thanks for your quick review of the draft on Gregory Masurovsky.

First, about whether Masurovsky is noteworthy. His work is in many prestigious collections in the US and Europe (the Museum of Modern Art in New York, the Smithsonian American Art Museum, the Baltimore Museum of Fine Art, the Norton Simon Museum in Pasadena, etc.); that indicates he is an artist of some stature whose work is worth preserving. Also, he is also one of eight alumni and former teachers selected for a series of special publications put out by Museum and Arts Center of Black Mountain College, which underscores his stature. Admittedly, little is written about him in English; I believe it is because he lived in France where he developed his career, partly as an illustrator of French-language books. I hoped a Wikipedia entry would help the interested find information about him more readily.

Second, about the citations. I wondered if including the blog would be a red flag. It had the dates of death. I have since found two other sources, which were used for that information. I would like to delete sources one and two but can’t figure out how or find any information on doing so.

As you can tell, I’m new at this. I took a stab at correcting the issues using the general guidelines. If there are still issues, specific comments would help me address them.

Thanks for your efforts and time. Owleyesinthelibrary (talk) 21:24, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Owleyesinthelibrary! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Paul Vaurie (talk) 05:07, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Paul,

Owleyesinthelibraryhere. Thanks for your quick review of the draft on Gregory Masurovsky.

First, about whether Masurovsky is noteworthy. His work is in many prestigious collections in the US and Europe (the Museum of Modern Art in New York, the Smithsonian American Art Museum, the Baltimore Museum of Fine Art, the Norton Simon Museum in Pasadena, etc.); that indicates he is an artist of some stature whose work is worth preserving. Also, he is also one of eight alumni and former teachers selected for a series of special publications put out by Museum and Arts Center of Black Mountain College, which underscores his stature. Admittedly, little is written about him in English; I believe it is because he lived in France where he developed his career, partly as an illustrator of French-language books. I hoped a Wikipedia entry would help the interested find information about him more readily.

Second, about the citations. I wondered if including the blog would be a red flag. It had the dates of death. I have since found two other sources, which were used for that information. I would like to delete sources one and two but can’t figure out how or find any information on doing so.

As you can tell, I’m new at this. I took a stab at correcting the issues using the general guidelines. If there are still issues, specific comments would help me address them.

Thanks for your efforts and time. Owleyesinthelibrary (talk) 23:30, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kenneth Nack (August 30)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Netherzone was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Does not pass WP:NARTIST nor WP:GNG. The refs consists of primary sources and press releases; what is needed is fully independent secondary significant coverage in reliable sources.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Kenneth Nack and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Netherzone (talk) 15:04, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I'm new at this so if replying directly is a breach of etiquette, apologies. I'm afraid you're right; there aren't enough secondary sources on Kenneth Knack. I did find the direct references to artist notability and secondary source guidelines helpful.

I noticed you've written extensively on artists and wondered if you could look at a second piece I did on an illustrator, Gregory Masurovsky. (It was also rejected. And, again, if this is a breach of etiquette, apologies.) Given the number of his works in museum collections and published works, I think he meets the notability requirement. Admittedly, there are few secondary sources available (His time period and having spent his career in France I would guess are partly responsible for that.). Most of the information comes from one source, a university publication. Is that a deal-breaker? (Also, I tried to delete a blog (a red flag) as a source but couldn't figure out how to do it.)

Thanks again. Owleyesinthelibrary (talk) 20:46, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: D.E. May (November 4)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by GraziePrego was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

"Fittingly, for a man who has been described as “decidedly analog," is not proper tone.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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GraziePrego (talk) 03:12, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: D.E. May has been accepted

D.E. May, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. Most new articles start out as Stub-Class or Start-Class and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

asilvering (talk) 00:14, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Gregory Masurovsky (November 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Utopes were:

This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner.

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This article still needs a lot of work I feel. Sources aside, which do not seem very adequate in a cursory glance, this article has major tonal issues which will still need to be addressed. There are several locations that do not match the formal tone that would be expected of an encyclopedic article, including but not limited to: "She got over it. They went out.", "Their little dog, Sardi, is at her feet, also staring off.", "Early on, he sold some drawings.". This doesn't need to be the most eloquent piece in the world by any means, but the article rambles a lot more than necessary in its current state.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 09:24, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Gregory Masurovsky (December 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by MicrobiologyMarcus were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

Many maintenance tags still exist in article. Previous concerns not addressed.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Gregory Masurovsky and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 17:18, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Kenneth Nack

Hello, Owleyesinthelibrary. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Kenneth Nack".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗plicit 00:45, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Gregory Masurovsky

Hello, Owleyesinthelibrary. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Gregory Masurovsky".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗plicit 01:07, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]