User talk:Oiyarbepsy/topic/NFCR discussions
NFCR discussions
[edit]Hi Oiyarbepsy. I've noticed that you've been going through and cleaning up some of the WP:NFCR discussions that are still unresolved. Just for reference, you can use Template:Non-free reviewed or one of its variations when you close a discussion. Just change "non-free review" to "non-free reviewed" in the {{non-free review}} template, add and fill in the relevant |pages=, |user= and |date= parameters, and everything should be good to go. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:52, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly:Thanks, I'll place them now. Or, not yet. Does this go on the description page or on the file talk page? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 06:08, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- I've only seen them used on the description page, sometimes at the top right below the image and sometimes under the copyright license. I really think you only need to add one when you close a discussion, but I guess you could add {{Non-free reviewed no consensus}} if you move something to FFD. Also, just for reference, anything which has a non-free use rationale that you remove from an article like you did at WSVN can simply be re-added to the article to stop it from being deleted per WP:F5. An admin would simply delete the image outright when they closed the discussion, but us non-admins cannot delete such files so they short of hang around in limbo until an admin either deletes them or somebody adds them to an article. Anyone who de-orphans a non-free image can remove the {{di-orphaned fair use}} template, so you might want to try {{di-disputed fair use rationale}} or FFD when you want to discuss NFCC#8 stuff. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:30, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly:Well, you's right. Just got the revert about Wikipedia:Non-free content review/Archive 72#File:New York Cosmos originalcrest.png. It might have to find it's way to Files for Discussion. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 03:43, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- You could tag it with "di-disputed fair use rationale", but that will probably be quickly contested. So, probably the best thing to do is to take it to FFD for a full discussion. If that's what you want to do, then I suggest amending your close to the NFCR discussion to add the new comments made after the fact and just do as you did with the other discussions you moved to FFD. For reference, it used to be SOP that NFCR discussions about single-use non-free files were advised to be brought to FFD instead (such as Wikipedia:Non-free content review/Archive 68#File:Ahmed Mohamed Clock by Irving PD.jpg and Wikipedia:Non-free content review/Archive 67#File:Zimbru Chișinău - Tottenham Hotspur.jpg for a few examples) because removing them makes them orphans, which is essentially a de-facto delete discussion. This is not really an issue if an admin decides to close and remove, but it sometimes can problematic be when a non-admin does the close because of WP:BADNAC. FWIW, I think that your close was appropriate and made in good faith, but NFCC issues (especially #8 stuff) often require admin involvement to make their closes stick. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:41, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
