User talk:Nurebz001

July 2024[edit]

Hello Nurebz001. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Nurebz001. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Nurebz001|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 08:16, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This account has been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet that was created to violate Wikipedia policy. Note that using multiple accounts is allowed, but using them for illegitimate reasons is not, and that all edits made while evading a block or ban may be reverted or deleted. If this account is not a sockpuppet, and you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here ~~~~}} below. 331dot (talk) 08:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More accurately, you have engaged in meat puppetry by attempting to edit after your two paid editors were each blocked. 331dot (talk) 08:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Nurebz001 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I apologize for my lack of knowledge about Wikipedia policies. I'm committed to following them and wouldn't have encountered these issues had I known the rules from the start. Our initial paid editor didn't inform us about disclosing paid editing and was eventually banned, resulting in our page being drafted. The second paid editor did disclose this and submitted the article through AFC, but was also banned, assumed to be the same person.

I understand I may be viewed as a meat puppet, but this situation arose due to my lack of knowledge. If you need evidence that in fact I am an employee of the company, I can provide you with a company email address to verify. You also can check my IP address and would see that it is from Singapore.

RSP is one of the largest and oldest architectural firms in Singapore and has created many notable buildings (eg. Changi Jewel, ION Orchard, Clarke Quay, Bird Paradise) and won numerous awards. The page would benefit the public and improve Wikipedia, especially considering there are pages for much smaller architectural firms already on Wikipedia as well as for many of our projects and ex-employees who are very notable architects in the region (eg. Liu Thai Ker). The intent of the RSP Wikipedia page was to correct misattributed or unattributed projects on Wikipedia that were completed by RSP and it was never for the purpose of self-promotion.

I want to start over and submit a minimal, non-promotional page. Your admins can review and decide if it's suitable for inclusion. Please let me know what can be done. We've already removed some content to make it less promotional and can remove more if needed. I would appreciate if you can give me second chance.~~

Decline reason:

I recommend you stop trying to create a Wikipedia article for RSP. In time, a neutral editor may create an article. But your attempts are counterproductive. PhilKnight (talk) 18:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Just FYI, the most recent freelancer hired to create the page was not blocked because they were "assumed to be the same person," but due to a previous track record of abusing multiple accounts. I wouldn't be surprised if they are still instructing you, as their profile shows the job marked as completed, meaning they are technically still working on it; otherwise, it would have been terminated. GSS ^💬 06:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We don't do "minimal, non-promotional pages", as Wikipedia is not a directory of businesses that exist. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia with articles about topics that meet our criteria, such as a notable company. Your company's buildings gettighg recognition and awards might merit the buildings articles, but not the company itself. For the company itself to merit an article, it must receive significant coverage itself showing how it is a notable company. Other companies meriting articles(if they do, they may not, and they just haven't been removed yet) does not automatically mean your company does too. Each draft or article is considered on its own merits, not based on the presence of other articles. 331dot (talk) 07:59, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GSS: If a freelancer did not follow Wiki policies, our company should not be penalized. Address the freelancer's actions, not us. Hiring a consultant is allowed if they disclose paid editing, which our consultant did. He was blocked for suspected sockpuppetry, an issue unrelated to us. It's unfair to punish our company for the actions of freelancers. You initiated the deletion of this draft, indicating frustration with paid editors. I can verify my company representation with a company email. I have confirmed with our marketing people that we no longer work with the freelancer. Below I have gathered some articles that may help you decide the company's notability. https://theedgemalaysia.com/article/design-works-pushing-back-boundaries-design

https://www.re-thinkingthefuture.com/article/15-works-of-rsp-architects-every-architect-should-visit/ https://theedgemalaysia.com/article/design-works-pushing-back-boundaries-design https://www.adfwebmagazine.jp/en/architect/rsp-a

https://www.scmp.com/country-reports/country-reports/topics/singapore-national-day-report-august-2019/article/3021102

https://design-middleeast.com/powerlist-architects-30-michael-magill-managing-and-creative-director-rsp/ About a director but also has a lot of info about the company

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/designing-green-sustainable-buildings-key-spores-top-young-architects

https://www.scmp.com/country-reports/country-reports/topics/singapore-national-day-report-august-2019/article/3021105

https://panelsfurnitureasia.com/rsp-refreshes-brand-identity-charts-new-expertise-ecosystem-to-pioneer-growth-in-built-environment-sector/ Nurebz001 (talk) 00:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nurebz001 have you not read the meatpuppetry policy, which states that actively recruiting new accounts or users on Wikipedia, or recruiting people (either on-wiki or off-wiki) to create an account or edit anonymously in order to influence decisions on Wikipedia, is prohibited? As an employee, you are strongly discouraged to write about your company. Wikipedia is not for promotion. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 02:11, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These sources are

an interview with a staff person, not an independent source
a list of projects the company worked on, not significant coverage
describing an industry award the company received, this only contributes to notability if the award itself merits an article (like Nobel Peace Prize or Academy Award or Grammy Award)
interviews with staff, and the author is given as "advertising partner", meaning it was written by the company itself
not significant coverage of the company, it's about an architect
is more about the building than the company itself, and contains an interview with the designing architect from the company
is another interview and lists "advertising partner" as the author
documents a routine business activity, a logo update

None of these establish notability. 331dot (talk) 07:32, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]