User talk:Nthurs

July 2024[edit]

Hello. Your recent edit to John B. Goddard School of Business & Economics appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person, organization or product added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 22:02, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As a direct representative of the Goddard School, we want these alumni to be included. Nthurs (talk) 22:11, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Couple things. One, as a paid editor (you are editing on behalf of your employer), you need to follow the paid editing rules. I will add a notice below this that gives you information on how to follow those rules. Two, the Goddard School cannot control the content of the page. Three, you may add names, but they must already have a Wikipedia page to be eligible to be added. Search Wikipedia for the pages. The proper way to include the name is to make it a link to the Wikipedia page, which, for example for a page called "John H. Doe" would be [[John H. Doe]]. That is, two square brackets on each side of the relevant page title. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 22:50, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Nthurs. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Nthurs. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Nthurs|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 22:52, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For the template, I'd recommend {{paid|user=Nthurs|employer=John B. Goddard School of Business & Economics|client=John B. Goddard School of Business & Economics}} — rsjaffe 🗣️ 22:53, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not being paid for this work. This is voluntary updates being made without compensation. Nthurs (talk) 22:54, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But are you employed by the school? Unfortunately, the term "paid editing" is a bit misleading as it might imply direct payment for working on Wikipedia. It does not. If you are employed by the school, with some exceptions that I doubt apply to this situation, it is paid editing. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 22:56, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not employed by the school. Simply updating the wikipedia page as it is extremely outdated Nthurs (talk) 22:58, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am a student who works with faculty (not employed at all) Nthurs (talk) 22:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK. That is not a paid position and you are not a paid contributor. However, you still have to follow the rules for lists, as I detailed above. Also, you are not a direct representative of the school, so do not hold yourself out as one. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 23:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am a direct representative. I am a student ambassador with instruction coming directly from the Dean’s office. Therefore, I will hold myself as a representative of the school. Nthurs (talk) 23:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. Then WP:COIEDIT applies. Please read that short section on COI editing to identify the rules you should follow. WP:COIE is also a useful reference. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 23:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is because even though you don’t have a conflict of interest, your edits reflect the requests of someone who does. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 23:19, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion[edit]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. The thread is John B. Goddard School of Business & Economics. Thank you. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 23:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Thayne Shaffer (July 7)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SafariScribe was:

This submission provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject matter. Please see the guide to writing better articles for information on how to better format your submission.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Thayne Shaffer and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 23:36, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Nthurs! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 23:36, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting list of persons[edit]

I suggest you sort the list in order of last name. It’ll be easier for readers to locate a name. Thank you. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 22:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]