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Sincerely, S0091 (talk) 20:18, 23 December 2019 (UTC) (Leave me a message)[reply]

Hi NotButtigieg, please note blogs are typically not considered a reliable source. S0091 (talk) 20:20, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, this is very useful.NotButtigieg (talk) 20:23, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ann E. Killebrew moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Ann E. Killebrew, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Celestina007 (talk) 18:42, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, NotButtigieg

Thank you for creating Edward C. Moore (silversmith).

User:Blythwood, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Hey, sorry but I'm afraid someone just scooped you: there was an article on this person created last September as Edward Chandler Moore. I'm going to propose this article for deletion in a week's time to give you time to move content and citations over if you want, as your article is better cited than theirs.

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Blythwood (talk) 03:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Edward C. Moore (silversmith)

The article Edward C. Moore (silversmith) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Duplicate of the Edward Chandler Moore article. This article is actually better cited, so I'm proposing for deletion so there's time to copy citations and content over.

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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Blythwood (talk) 03:38, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also as an additional option, if you think your content is good enough you want to ask for help formally merging it into the other article, you can ask for help here, or I or someone else could move the article into draftspace if you want more time to work on it. Blythwood (talk) 03:47, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, just seen your reply on the talk page. Mergers aren't my strong point, but you probably want to request help with a merger. Blythwood (talk) 05:09, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ann E. Killebrew (January 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by MurielMary was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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MurielMary (talk) 02:00, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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January 2020

Your addition to Talk:Mike Evans (author) has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. Meters (talk) 18:53, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just following this up - I've RevDelled your additions, but please please don't add copyrighted material onto Wikipedia. Nosebagbear (talk) 13:23, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, User:Meters, User:Nosebagbear, it was such an old article that I thought it wouldn't matter. Won't do it again.NotButtigieg (talk) 13:29, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No problem - and excessive length of copyright is its own moan...but I'll save your talk page from being subjected to that! Nosebagbear (talk)

Seven years is nothing in copyright lives. Most countries' copyright durations are the life of the author plus another 50 or 70 years. Israel is life plus 70 years. Meters (talk) 23:06, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Abusive message

@NotButtigieg: Sorry about that message. I was talking to somebody else online, and typed it and it came out wrong. Apologies. If you want to try and keep it, I suggest trying to find if the band charted. scope_creep^Talk 20:20, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AfD

Hello NotButtigieg! I noticed that you have been participating on Articles for Deletion in the area of Visual Arts. Thanks so much for your participation, WP needs active participants like yourself. I also noticed that sometimes you don't justify your !vote with policy. If I'm not mistaken, the !votes have more weight (since it is not a numerical vote) if WP policy or guidelines are cited. Here are two links that you might find interesting - they are: Arguments to make in deletion discussions, and Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. Happy editing, and nice to meet you here. Netherzone (talk) 01:33, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

January 2020

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This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

IceFishing (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

IceFishing (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Accept reason:

Allowing username change to requested username. Please select an option from Wikipedia:Changing username and file a request as soon as possible to avoid re-blocking. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 17:35, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

*Gamaliel I'm a bit confused about the reason here; it seems unlikely that someone would think "NotButtigieg" would be Pete Buttigieg himself(though the name could offend others who support him) 331dot (talk) 17:30, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As this user has chosen a new username (that is not in use), which was the only reason given for the block, the issue is moot, viz "At an administrator's discretion, you may be unblocked for 24 hours to file a request." Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 17:35, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ritchie333, thank your for your kindness. I am, however, confused as to what, exactly, I am now required to do to effect the change of names.NotButtigieg (talk) 17:51, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In your case, click on Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple and follow the instructions. A global renamer will need to process your request, as your login is unique across all Wikimedia projects. 331dot and Oshwah are global renamers and frequently online, so they should be able to sort it out fairly quickly. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 17:54, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you.NotButtigieg (talk) 17:59, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
While the given rationale was odd (editors are not likely to think "NotButtigieg" equates to "is actually Buttigieg" in meaning, since most of us lack severe dain bramage), the original username was problematic under WP:UNAME policy for other reasons. The most likely interpretation of the username is "Buttigieg should not be president" or "vote for anyone but Buttigieg", so it is (or effectively is) promotional, of anti-Buttigieg politics. And that also makes it related to a real-world group or organization (potentially several of them, including the Republican party, and the campaigns of competing Democratic candidates for office). In broader policy terms, it's a WP:NOT problem of several types (SOAPBOX, SOCIAL, FORUM), misusing WP as a platform for political messaging unrelated to building an encyclopedia, and likely to interfere with editorial collaboration and collegiality (possibly intended to do exactly that, toward Buttigieg supporters). I don't think it really qualified, though, as "offensive" in the meaning of the policy, which is concerned with usernames like "ScottishPeopleSuck" or "ShowMeUrThiccAzz" or "PolPotWasRight" or "QueersAreUnnatural" or "YourCrucifixIsIdolatry". — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:02, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My user page made clear that this was a joke in response to a news story I had read about Pete Buttigieg's alleged Wikipedia editing. My user page read:

Confirming that I am not Pete Buttigieg. If that went right past you, see: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/12/pete-buttigieg-wikipedia-page-editor.html

.IceFishing (talk) 03:58, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I had the same (completely independent) interpretation; that you were affirming that you were not secretly Buttigieg.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 22:02, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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