User talk:Njchronicaler

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Again, welcome! John of Reading (talk) 21:07, 28 October 2012 (UTC) -- John of Reading (talk) 21:07, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

American Tractor Corporation

Your edit at American Tractor Corporation showed up on my watchlist. Since you, presumably, have managed to use that Yahoo link, can you confirm whether the page title there is spelled "Corporation" as one would expect, or "Corparation" as mentioned in the Wikipedia article? -- John of Reading (talk) 21:07, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

March 2014

Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. We always appreciate when users upload new images. However, it appears that one or more of the images you have recently uploaded or added to an article, specifically American Tractor Corporation, may fail our non-free image policy. Most often, this involves editors uploading or using a copyrighted image of a living person. For other possible reasons, please read up on our Non-free image criteria. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Werieth (talk) 18:49, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You need to stop adding files to American Tractor Corporation in violation of WP:NFCC. If you continue to do so you will be blocked. Werieth (talk) 12:13, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently you don't know the status of the documents. There is no longer any entity that has a claim on any remaining copyright.

If you spend some time reviewing copyright law, you will know that just because a company no longer exists doesnt mean that their copyrights no longer exist. Werieth (talk) 12:20, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

especially when other intellectual property was one of the primary reasons for the takeover of the company. Werieth (talk) 12:22, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That intellectual property wasn't in existence when this brochure was produced. There are models of machines in this brochure of which there are no know remaining examples, so this as I read it falls under fair use.

Wikipedia's policy on non-free media is far more strict than fair use. Right now there is zero justification in the article for including any of the images, and even if there was some, 8 images isnt minimal usage. Werieth (talk) 12:30, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm John Cline. I noticed that you recently removed all content from American Tractor Corporation, with this edit, without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, I restored the page's content. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. —John Cline (talk) 12:33, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

no need for the article that I created if it can't be properly illustrated. The information is safely keep within the machinery collecting community.

I did notice that you created this page but since other editors have contributed to it, you are no longer the only substantial contributor and blanking is no longer an option.—John Cline (talk) 12:37, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

the others haven't contributed content and one has defaced the page. It will no longer exist.

Please don't war over this, why do you think the article should be deleted?—John Cline (talk) 12:42, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I can't in good conscious aid in deleting this worthy article. You should add {{db-g7}} to the blank page and it may get deleted as a page requested by the author. If instead you would like to improve it, I will gladly assist in that regard.—John Cline (talk) 12:59, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

added the tag and Werieth reversed that change. I am baffled how that individual knows more about the status of that company and its state than someone like myself that collects, restores, and researches the history of companies like this. Furthermore since I created this article the only "contributions" have been formatting (some of which I had to revert). No one really gave this article any attention until I made the mistake of classifying the pictures as closely as I could as to their copyright status. What this episode has told me is that you prefer I had claimed they were never proprietary. The irony is that I created this page, but I have no rights to it because someone is pretending to represent the rights of a no longer existent company whose principles no longer are living.

This really needs to be asked, and answered on the article's talk page! What if we each made one mistake? Couldn't we work it out for the best? You may simply need to choose a different license, like {{pd-old}}; if, as you imply, the owner's are dead and have been long enough – with the first publication of the image having occurred far enough in the past. It is easier to help you sort options, than to resist you for forcing non-options. Choose discussion.—John Cline (talk) 03:43, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. However, please remember that editors do not own articles and should respect the work of their fellow contributors. If you create or edit an article, remember that others are free to change its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Werieth (talk) 02:42, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Article talk page

Hello Njchronicaler. Please visit Talk:American Tractor Corporation to discuss the status of that article; and why WP:AfD is the only proper recourse to pursue deletion once a WP:PROD or WP:CSD has been properly contested – which clearly has happened. You can not continue editing emotionally; as you are, without expecting a preventative block from editing. Come to the talk page, or take a break if you like; but please stop the back and forth reversions.—John Cline (talk) 03:27, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]