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Justin Gaethje

No Problem, I understand. It is really weird that someone who has been in so many articles and on television so many time is not consider notable. - Claudias — Preceding unsigned comment added by Claudias1987 (talk • contribs) 14:07, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal of Notability

I have asked for a change in Notability. I did clean the page, but I think that it will be deleted again if accepted if notability isn't changed. Below is what I stated.

Hi I would like to ask for a plea to change the criteria of notability from top 10 criteria to top 20. My reason for this plea is that a top 10 will take away accomplishment of fighters who are notable but have never reached to 20 or those on the way of top 20 but because they are not seen as part of a tier 1 organization it is held against them as not notable. I feel that this will help reduce the arguments within the community about notability in MMA, but also create a more democratic process. My argument is that many topics rather use top 10 use top 15 or more often top 20. To use top 10 as a criteria deflates the need to recognized high achievers. An example is the NBA rankings which will list their top 20 players, and other sites going as far as listing top 50 to top 100. (talk) 15 March 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Claudias1987 (talk • contribs)

Claudias1987 (talk) 17:17, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Again, I appreciate your help! If there's anything else I can do let me know. I have access to photos of Justin that we can use on the page as well. I work at WSOF, so I have all of the rights and permissions necessary. NaviGATR (talk) 15:02, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. The biggest thing is to review the notability criteria. If notability criteria can be pushed to more professional it would help his cause. I'm new so I am not sure how the structure works, but it looks like from review that the criteria needs improvement as it only has two criteria. The problem is the the Tier system need a criteria of it's own of what constitute a top-tier organization. For example Invicta is Top Tier, which makes sense as it is the only well known WMMA organization but does not hold weight in viewership as it is either a fightpass or ppv. WSOF has been on network and cable, but has been put on as second tier. That doesn't make sense.

1. Have fought at least three (3) professional fights for a top-tier MMA organization, such as the UFC; or 2. Have fought for the highest title of a top-tier MMA organization

https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mixed_martial_arts/MMA_notability

I will also include articles of him from ESPN or any other major news outlet I can find to push the argument to notability. I think the biggest thing is to push for a conversation with whoever made the criteria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Claudias1987 (talk • contribs) 16:25, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Claudias1987 (talk) 17:17, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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