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16:02, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Lists of tracks, lists of cars

I think you should take time time to review the previous discussions at Talk:iRacing.com, and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of vehicles simulated by iRacing.com. Large numbers of lists of iRacing content have been deleted, after lots of discussion. The consensus has been not to list all of this stuff for various reasons related to Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not -- not a catalog, not a directory, not a sales guide, not a manual, etc.

I think you're wasting your time and when somebody comes along an nukes these lists, and then there's a repeat of the last debate, and it comes out again that we don't want it, you're going to be disappointed. You might instead want to discuss this first at Talk:IRacing.com#Lists of gameplay items is growing again before putting any more time into it. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 16:38, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

His time HAS been a complete waste as the list has been nuked, as advised above. 71.72.243.248 (talk) 00:47, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think your edits will look far less promotional if you focused exclusively on content that you can directly cite to an independent, third party source. There's tons of advice on what this means, at Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources, Wikipedia:Verifiablity, Wikipedia:Identifying and using independent sources and so on. In simple terms, don't cite the subject (i.e. iRacing) or their partners, their employees, their spokespeople, or their press releases. Find reputable journalists, and use only that as your sourcing. Self-published sources may be OK, sometimes, but in this case I would advise staying completely away from them. If all you're doing is taking material published by iRacing and paraphrasing it on Wikipedia, that is blatant advertising and promotion. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 16:04, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]