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Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Kurt Gödel. When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Albert Einstein. When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. - DVdm (talk) 22:11, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

N46 (talk) 01:45, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

My answer

I have noticed that I have made changes. The changes are made because Einstein is a German Jew, born, grown, educated in Germany, by a mother and father who also spoke German tongue as their fisrt language. If you say he is Swiss-American, that is far of the truth, if nothing else he is Austrian and German as well. National belonging is not only political but etnical and innate characteristic. It is historically not correct to call a German Jew, Swiss-American. When he went to the US, like many other emigrants to escape WWII, his aim was not to erase his national belonging. Historically speaking wikipedia or you cannot erase history, and the fact that he is a German Jew, since most of his life he was a German. Dispite the country's past problems, you have no right to steal history. Also I have the right to edit wikipedia, and I will do so if I do not agree with it, everyone elso does, why not me? The information is lightly said disputtable. But to the German and Jewish people, Einstein is not Swiss-American, at least not only that. Einstein would not be what he was if it wasn't for his parents and his country, the one that he has been born in, grown in, educated in, that is not of small significance. Let's not attribute to Swiss and America more than it is. It just is not true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N64 (talk • contribs)

Hi, I have reverted your edit again. Some of the aspects have been discussed on the talk page before. Please open a section on the talk page of the article and discuss your edits. But before you do that, perhaps you should search the talk page archive index: (click here: Talk:Albert_Einstein/Archive index) and use your browser search function to look for the string "ethnic".

You might be interested in finding out how things go around here by looking at WP:BRD. Also, please sign your talk messages with four tildes (~~~~)? Thanks and cheers - DVdm (talk) 07:46, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you should review what is nationality and what is citizenship. Ainstein has German nationality and is of Jewish ethnicity. You can look up yourself, so the clause Greman born is not correct. He is not of foreigh parents that have given him birth there, he is of German nationality. Greman-born can reffer to someone that is not of German nationality, but is born in Germany. The information should be clear and not misleading, some of the clasues now are misleading. Consider that, consider also that this is public information, and the public should be ok with the info, not just one person. I also did review "etnicity", even here in wiki,and once again I do not see how he is not Jewish according to you. Maybe it's time for you to review this term once again. Also, if you rae considering emigration to US you should consider his emigration to Switzerland as well. It is once again misleading to mention only one emigration, when there were cleary two. N46 (talk) 17:05, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi, N46, please note that I'm not in the least interested in whether Einstein was or was not of Jewish ethnicity. In fact, i.m.o. nothing could be less interesting than someone's ethnicity - to put it bluntly, I really couldn't care less. Of course he was of Jewish ethnicity - everone knows that. The reasons why I had reverted your edits: (1) I recall that in the past it was decided by consensus on the talk page that ethnicity is not important enough to mention it in the lead (the first sentence), (2) your spelling was bad, (3) you changed section headers without commenting, and (4) in your first edit series you had removed content without commenting.

I notice that you have put the ethnicity back in. Ok, I will leave it, no problem with me. If other editors object, you will notice soon enough.

I also asked to go to the article's talk page and open a new section to discuss this. There's more people, so there's more ideas and viewpoints.

Please sign talk page messages at end of the msg? I took the liberty to move your signature. I hope you don't mind? Thanks and good editing. DVdm (talk) 17:51, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

N46 (talk) 03:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC) My interest is not to show Einstein's etnicity only, but his nationality as well. And the truth for that matter. According to you and the message board participants, which by the way are no statistical representative outline of any kind, citizenship is more important than etnicity or nationality!!!! Which is totaly wrong, a person is shaped by its twenties, even earlier an Einstein spent most of his life in Germany. And the fisrt thing that is written in the article is that he is Swiss-Amerucan, this is outrageous. He is fisrt German-Jewish, then anything else. His most important findings were produced in Germany and Switzerland, and still it says he is Swiss-American? That's an absurd. Germany is never credited in the article and that is biased.

John Vincent Atanasoff

Please read WP:MOSBIO. "Bulgarian-American" is not a nationality, it is an ethnicity, and ethnicity is not to be stressed in the lead unless it is relevant to the individual's notability. If you check the talk archives for this figure you'll see there has already been extensive discussion on this point. Robert K S (talk) 18:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)