User talk:N419BH/Archive 1
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Welcome
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on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! - Ahunt (talk) 15:08, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
April 2010
Hello. When you patrol new pages, all articles that you have looked at should be marked patrolled, whether you marked them for deletion or deemed them acceptable, unless you are not sure. This saves time and work by informing fellow patrollers of your review of the page so that they do not duplicate efforts. Thank you. Cptmurdok (talk) 21:54, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- When you patrol pages from Special:NewPages you should see a [Mark this page as patrolled] link at the bottom right corner. I had just noticed that you marked a new page with a CSD tag but hadn't marked it as patrolled. If you use Twinkle, it should do this automatically. If you did mark it and I just saw it as unpatrolled due to server latency or something, then please accept my apologies. Thanks! Cptmurdok (talk) 22:38, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- Glad I was able to be of some help. I'm new to editing myself, so sharing of tips is always welcome. Thanks! Cptmurdok (talk) 17:16, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Foreign-language contributions
Hi. {{db-foreign}} is only used in the situation (not common in my experience) where an article from a foreign WP has been cut-and-pasted here (the point being that to do that loses the contribution record - there is a procedure at WP:TRANSLATE for doing it properly). The foreign WP reference should be included in the tag, e.g. {{db-foreign|source=es:Warekena}}.
Much more usually, what we get is a foreign text input by somebody who probably doesn't know any other WP exists. The right tag then is {{notenglish}}, which is not a speedy request - because sometimes these articles are worth translating. When that expands on the article page, it gives you a message and a link to the place to paste it on WP:PNT, where someone who knows the language may pick it up and translate or PROD or whatever is appropriate.
If you know or can guess the language, then put, e.g., {{notenglish|Spanish}}. That gives a more useful template, including a link to the relevant foreign Wikipedia, and also a link to Google Translate, which will show you a machine translation - rough and ready, but often good enough to tell you that the article is about a NN band or person and can be speedy tagged without bothering to list it at PNT.
The Google Translate facility can be used to help guess the language - e.g. if it looks like Arabic but the translation makes no sense, try Farsi.
There is a useful set of message templates such as {{contrib-ru1}} to give the author a bilingual message saying we require English and pointing him to the foreign WP. List of them at WP:PNT/T. The most exotic one I have yet used for real is {{contrib-sq1}}.
In fact "Gervasio maria" just now, when I added {{notenglish|Portuguese}} and looked at the translation, was a nasty personal attack, so I didn't bother pointing the author to Portuguese WP - his contribution would not have been welcome there, either.
Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:01, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for your advice; I will be sure to apply those tags in the future and look at the translation. I'm new to the newpage patrol and am still learning. N419BH (talk) 17:05, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
- All recruits welcome! There is good advice on speedy tagging from an experienced admin at WP:10CSD and WP:A7M. JohnCD (talk) 17:10, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Twinkle Issue
{{helpme}}
When using twinkle to caution/warn a user, my signature is displayed in an odd box. How do I fix that automatically? I assume it is a template issue.
- You probably have a leading space in your signature in your Preferences. If not, try copying and pasting the contents of the signature box from preferences (make sure to put <nowiki> tags around it) and use {{helpme}} again. --Darkwind (talk) 18:24, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- There is noting in my signature box; I am using the standard signature. N419BH (talk) 18:29, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm. I tested this, and it seems the default signature itself causes this problem. Try inserting something like "--[[User:N419BH|N419BH]] ([[User talk:N419BH|talk]])" (without the quotes) in the signature box in your preferences, and check the "Sign my name exactly as shown" box just below it. That should fix the problem (and remember that you'll have to insert a space before your ~~~~'s when leaving a manual comment). Darkwind (talk) 18:37, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- That fixed the problem; thank you. --N419BH (talk) 18:51, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm. I tested this, and it seems the default signature itself causes this problem. Try inserting something like "--[[User:N419BH|N419BH]] ([[User talk:N419BH|talk]])" (without the quotes) in the signature box in your preferences, and check the "Sign my name exactly as shown" box just below it. That should fix the problem (and remember that you'll have to insert a space before your ~~~~'s when leaving a manual comment). Darkwind (talk) 18:37, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- There is noting in my signature box; I am using the standard signature. N419BH (talk) 18:29, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Request
If you use twinkle and watch recent edits, please make sure you also take a look at the discussion page (Karl Koch). A discussion was already one the way but no one was able to provide any reliable source for an important statement. the pov-statement in the article was therefor correctly deleted, at the very least till a reliable source is found. the previous state of the article was npov because it did not have speculations on his death. Reverting it without checking the quality of the article/the discussion is not really wise 188.109.94.111 (talk) 19:21, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Revert
No actually it was perfect, it was a vandalism that actually deleted content. Snowolf How can I help? 01:44, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
CRLA
Hi there, and thanks for alerting me to the nomination of an article I began a while ago, California Rural Legal Assistance, for speedy deletion. However, I was unable to find it on the log for the day you notified me. Likewise, I did not see the article itself tagged for speedy deletion. And as of today, the article still exists. Finally, you allege that the article is a clear copyright violation. On whose copyright does it infringe? I am glad to work to avoid these issues, but I am usually pretty careful about that sort of thing. Any guidance you can offer as to what is violating copyright or what stage in the deletion process the article is currently would be appreciated. Thanks, --Rockero (talk) 03:59, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
AMR Eagle 4184
Hi; Welcome aboard Wikipedia.
It appears you apparently got your "quote" of the NTSB probable cause statement from ASN's summary of that accident. While ASN is often a good source for some accident information, it is very important to compare what that site says, with the actual words of the NTSB, particularly when quoting the Probable Cause statement. In this case, some of what you quoted as being from the NTSB report, was in fact a re-wording by ASN. Accordingly, I replaced with the actual unabridged words of the NTSB report. Anytime a quotation is put in Wikipedia, it must be the actual word-for-word statement of the one that said it. Alterations of "quotations" are never permitted, for obvious reasons. Thanks much, EditorASC (talk) 23:32, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Colgan 3407
Just a quick note to thank you for your help on the talk page. Sometimes, inputs like that, even though just a few words, is all it takes to finally achieve consensus. Cheers! EditorASC (talk) 00:53, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Mr. Men Revert
Mr. Stupid is real
http://mrmen.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Stupid Please click on it, and if I can't prove he's real, then how else can I prove anything?\
I give up
Even though Mr. Stupid is 100% real http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090802104420/mrmen/images/b/b5/Mr._Stupid.png I give up on making you guys believe me, I'm sorry for what I've been doing, and I KNOW FOR SURE there'll NEVER EVER EVER be a way for ANYONE to believe me I understand, he's not that popular anyway, I've my VERY HARDEST to make you believe me, I know I'll have to be Mr. Impossible to make you believe, but sadly I'm not, but there's this guy I know on Deviantart and The Mr. Men Wiki who hates vandilism and KNOWS Mr. Stupid is REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He draws him all the time too! I'm not kidding! 69.179.136.226 (talk) 02:02, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Note
This dispute was resolved in favor of the IP editor. Mr. Stupid does indeed exist, and I was able to find third party documentation to this effect. The IP editor's contribution was restored, and an apology was issued on the editor's talk page. --N419BH (talk) 16:54, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Rollback
Hello, per your request, I've granted you rollback rights. It's actually the first time I've assigned rollback (I only passed RfA today) so congrats! Anyway:
- Rollback is only to be used for reverting obvious vandalism- for everything else, use one the Twinkle buttons or undo
- If you make a mistake in editing, you can use rollback to revert yourself
- Misuse or abuse will result in its removal by any admin
- Take a look at WP:RBK and Help:Reverting to make yourself familiar with how the tool works
- You can experiment with rollback at Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback
- Any questions, just ask on my talk page
Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:38, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, and congratulations on your successful RfA! --N419BH (talk) 20:43, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you :). You know where I am if you need anything! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:47, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Readding db-hoax tag to History of Romania
Hi, you reinstated a {{db-hoax}} tag removed by an IP. I have removed the tag again as it is clearly a disruptive tag added to a sourced article as a misguided reaction of Cabbynet (talk · contribs) to my tagging of an article by that user as a hoax. Jarkeld (talk) 22:20, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Nice work!
You beat me to a lot of vandalism today, and I'd like to recognise you for your efforts. Here's something from me. Go to {{WP:FTA]] for more available userboxes. Deagle_AP (talk) 06:16, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
FTA | This user is persistent in the fight against vandalism. Hence, the user has been entrusted with membership into Wikipedia's Fire Team Alpha. |
Comment
and what —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.178.168 (talk) 23:18, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
recent undos on page: Astronaut, section: Civilian and non-government milestones
Hi, I got your messages and made an account. I would like to ask, how can I prevent this from happening again? What guidelines are there besides citing and commenting an edit?
Also, is this really the place to communicate? There's no PM system or anything?
DrZygote214 (talk) 01:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Request for Assistance
{{adminhelpme}} I've noticed a new username that seems to know too much about editing and policy. I believe they may be a sockpuppet, banned user, or currently blocked user. Where do I report the username for investigation? --N419BH (talk) 04:20, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Comment from IP user
hey someone else edited that page. You better run and call him a vandal as well! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.118.188.7 (talk) 04:33, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- As noted on editor's talk page, edit removed cited content without explanation in edit summary. --N419BH (talk) 04:42, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Greg Ball
The reason that article was reverted was to remove content added by one of his campaign employees, Mr. Daniel Branda. Please look before you shoot. 208.81.91.47 (talk) 15:24, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
1970–71 in Swiss football
That page is simply a complete invention, it must not be discussed, it must be re-written. Please correct it. Bye.--95.236.140.162 (talk) 15:56, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
IP user comment
Stacey Dabney, Mlemorris Festoere —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.82.56.41 (talk) 22:58, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Comment from REFTR
I am attempting to update the listing for my employer with accurate information. It lists store and sites that are either non-existent or in violation of International Copyright Laws. The one item changed is to provide information regarding new management. Richard Flynn President Tower.com Inc. Tower Records 2207 Concorde Pike #633 Wilmington, DE 19803 717.825.1628 rflynn@tower.com
REFTR (talk) 16:38, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- FYI, I've addressed this on User talk:REFTR EyeSerenetalk 17:43, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- No problem, and thanks very much for your input. Situations like this are always tricky when we need to balance WP policies and guidelines with the legitimate concerns of third parties. Without their final post to your talk page, I would have taken the edits for vandalism too (this is one of those situations where I'm glad I always check the final few edits of people reported at AIV!). You've probably noticed that I've removed the disputed stuff to the talk page - to be honest, the sourcing in that section is hopeless anyway :) Thanks again for your continued vigilance, and if you need anything you know where my talk page is. All the best, EyeSerenetalk 18:53, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Issue
{{adminhelpme}} Got an article, Jean-Pierre Fenyo, that appears to be a substantial copyright infringement. A bot identified it and I personally reviewed it after noticing the tag was removed by an IP. A substantial amount of the article is indeed copyrighted text. I readded the tag. The same IP then made several additional edits without rewriting the text and deleted the tag. What is the proper way to proceed? --N419BH (talk) 02:19, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Checking... hold on. If it is indeed blatant copyvio it can be speedy deleted. -- Ϫ 02:47, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm, well the message posted on the talk page complicates things a little. There's potentially a good article there but I think the copyright/COI/attribution issues should be cleared up first before we clean up that puff-piece article. I've left a messsage to User:Moonriddengirl who is knowledgable in these areas. -- Ϫ 03:11, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
- Uh...huh...I didn't notice that. That complicates things quite a bit. We definitely have a potential good article, we just need some good copyediting and sourcing. --N419BH (talk) 03:20, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Archiving
{{helpme}}
Decided I'd learn how to set up archiving, tried it on Talk:Continental Airlines after an editor requested it. The archiving works...except one problem. The template for the archives doesn't link to the archived discussions. How is that fixed? --N419BH (talk) 03:32, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Restored
I have restored this page to its state at 03:32, 6 May 2010, so that all that conversation is suppressed. JohnCD (talk) 16:55, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks much. You might want to take a look at the IP's page too. --N419BH (talk) 16:56, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- Everything on there is by you, and I don't see anything that needs suppressing - say if you disagree. JohnCD (talk) 17:15, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- Nope, that's fine. Just wanted a second pair of eyes to look it over. Thanks for your help! --N419BH (talk) 17:20, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- Everything on there is by you, and I don't see anything that needs suppressing - say if you disagree. JohnCD (talk) 17:15, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Barnstar
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What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar | |
For your non-defensive candor and excellent suggestion at WP:RSN today to improve the visibility of the instructions by placing them in an WP:Editnotice. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:04, 6 May 2010 (UTC) |
Thanks
I like you as a talk page stalker. :) Tommy2010 01:47, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Little Richard
My change for the Little Richard page was correct. Leon Robinson was not nominated for an Emmy Award for his performance in the film. Nominated that year was Ben Kingsley, Barry Pepper, Gregory Hines, Andy Garcia, and Kenneth Branagh, who won. The only award Leon was nominated for was an Image Award. So, the page is incorrect, I don't know what procedure to go about to correct it if what I did was wrong. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.159.23.71 (talk) 02:42, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Please find a verifiable, reliable source for this information and include it with your edit. That's all you need to do for your edit to be accepted. Also, please sign your posts on talk pages by typing ~~~~. Thanks! --N419BH (talk) 02:46, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Verifiable source would be IMDb, which lists all the nominees and winners for that year's Emmy awards. Never mind, though, I'll just leave it. Lol. Don't understand all these techinal things, just wanted to correct an error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.159.23.71 (talk) 02:54, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Just replace the content and add <ref>Your reference</ref> just after it. Put the page from IMDb where it says "Your reference". or make the edit again, post the website here, and I'll add in the reference for you. --N419BH (talk) 02:57, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Verifiable source would be IMDb, which lists all the nominees and winners for that year's Emmy awards. Never mind, though, I'll just leave it. Lol. Don't understand all these techinal things, just wanted to correct an error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.159.23.71 (talk) 02:54, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
May 2010
Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit that you made to the page Jackson Liberty High School has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Please use the sandbox for testing any edits; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing for further information. Thank you. Mlpearc MESSAGE 03:23, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for bringing this to my attention it was a edit conflict on Huggle, any futher trouble please contact me. Thanks Mlpearc MESSAGE 03:32, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
No problem thanks for fixing it! --N419BH (talk) 03:33, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- No problem Sir. Mlpearc MESSAGE 05:07, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Re: Vandalfighting
Thanks!! Traxs7 (Talk) 03:27, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
IP comment
i'm a institute student. Anything wrong if this is made available here.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.226.217.133 (talk) 06:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
ARTEL GREAT
The information posted along with the photo is false. They are not of the individual the article claims to represent. The changes I am making serve to uphold the integrity of Wikipedia policies. Please refrain from reverting these changes.
Drgreative (talk) 04:58, 7 May 2010 (UTC)drgreativeDrgreative (talk) 04:58, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply.
- Here's where the confusion lies.
- The information that I continue to delete on this page is WRONG.
- Why hasn't it been fact-checked or scrutinized to the degree I have faced by seeking to put the correct information up?
- The photo that is there is NOT of the person it claims to be.
- How come that was not VERIFIED?
- The information that I am correcting is verifiable on this webpage listed below
- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0907539/
- If you can help resolve this matter that would be perfect.
- thanks.
- Drgreative (talk) 08:30, 7 May 2010 (UTC)drgreativeDrgreative (talk) 08:30, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
WWE In Your House
Hi there, I recently edited a page which I believe to be outdated, the WWE no longer has pay per views called backlash or No Way Out anymore and I edited the page accordingly. I then recieved a warning? I believe this is unfair.
Thanks
Andrew Symonds
82.18.205.116 (talk) 02:02, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
IP comment
On government ethics I do not quite understand where the vandalism comes in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.251.108.90 (talk) 02:11, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Comment from Manboychum2
I DONT LIKE YOU!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manboychum2 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry to hear that. --N419BH (talk) 21:42, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
canvassing
I was just making a point to two or three editors because many times you write and you don't hear back. so i figured by writing to a few tnat would increase the chances of some looking at the charges. its funny as soon as i say something im contacted right away but the vandalism happening on the pages no one responds. Just saying it can be frustrating.
Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Knighttrain (talk • contribs) 22:47, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- I completely respect that. Its just that ive noticed that some people can completely change the article and they dont get any warning, it seems some editors can make drastic changes and get away withaeven a warning. if some others made the drastic changes cosmic latte made you can be sure that the page would changed already. But as soon as other editors make a minor change the are warned. It seems that the rules only applies to certain editors not for all and to be truthful thats why wikipedia are often stated as not a varified source of information. No offence meant —Preceding unsigned comment added by Knighttrain (talk • contribs) 23:03, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Re. IP block
Hello N419BH. Who do you think that this user might be a sockpuppet of? Regards, Húsönd 00:57, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
- Hi again. You seem to be confused with the concept of sockpuppetry. A sockpuppet is a user who edits under different usernames or IPs in order to e.g. evade a block or cast multiple votes on Wikipedia polls. Each different username or IP that user controls is called a "sockpuppet" (or simply a "sock"). Most users trying to game the system through sockpuppetry are easily caught. They're usually inexperienced users who believe that by switching names they won't be recognized. However, it's usually easy to identify a user's pattern when he or she edits under another name. Admins have a heavy hand on sockpuppetry, and virtually all instances of sockpuppetry will result in a block of all accounts the user controlled (often including their primary one, aka "sockmaster"). Check this user and his confirmed list of sockpuppets for instance. A tireless sockpuppeteer he was, I found tens of his socks myself.
- Then there's a reduced number of experienced users who decide to engage on sockpuppetry (often to try to enforce a POV or influence a discussion). As they know the system, they can fool other users more easily. Some even managed to become admins until they were caught. There's a reduced number of admins who possess the checkuser tool, which allows a user's IP to be located. A checkuser may be requested if there is suspicion that a user might be or might have a sockpuppet. I hope this clarifies. :-) Regards, Húsönd 01:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Keep up the good work! Regards, Húsönd 01:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks
Just wanted to say that your assistance is appreciated! Best wishes, Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 01:23, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Whathername
We really ought to have a policy on this sort of thing. It is OK to mention this specualtion, but not allowed to mention that one? I do not see how that can work and I am always thinking of the potential to hurt a living person. I can see allowing anything mentioned in the press with a disclaimer, but it would be better and easier to bar any specualtion about the future. Or not, I am still noodling this over. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 09:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
BP Gulf Oil Disaster
The convention is to also include the name of the responsible company, not only the 'vessel'. For example, the "Exxon Valdez Oil Disaster".
Could you also please confirm that you are not in the direct, or indirect employ, contract or sub-contract of any oil company or it's subcontractors? Additionally that you are not being paid by anyone to edit Wikipedia articles?
Thanks,
Sean7phil (talk) 17:09, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello
Hey man- I just figured since you reverted my edit you'd be cool to hang out some time? Send me your number, I'm gonna start an awesome party. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.220.213.160 (talk) 04:44, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh whoops I forgot to sign- sorry about that. Hey call me up OK? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.220.213.160 (talk) 04:46, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh wait do I sign with the 71.220.213.160 (talk) 04:49, 11 May 2010 (UTC) thing? K.
Improper revert on Troy Miller
Here's the diff, appears to be reverting addition of sourced information. ClueBot reverted it previously because it contained "dumb", but it was valid. Please slow down and take a little more care. Stifle (talk) 09:02, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Joseph Bruce & Joseph Utsler
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Joseph_Utsler http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Joseph_Bruce
Thanks for fixing these two pages; I was in the middle of reading both while they changed; I was about to correct it; but, I see you have already.
I hope I put this in the right place; if not, please disregard and delete. BigJoeRockHead (talk) 21:34, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks.....
for reverting the vandalism on my talk page. Bloody vandals! :) --5 albert square (talk) 22:56, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- No problem. Takes one button on Huggle to both get rid of the rubbish and send them to WP:AIV!
Adminship
Copied from: User Talk:HJ Mitchell
First draft:
- 1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?
- I intend to use the tools to help keep Wikipedia free of vandalism. I see myself doing most of my admin work in RPP, UAA, and AIV. I may get into AfD at a later date but that’s a long way off.
- 2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
- My best contributions are in dispute resolution. When I see one, I try to find a win-win solution and interject it. I find this gets editors to stop focusing on each other and focus again on solving the issue. This improves the overall quality of the enclycopedia.
- 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
- Of course, this is a natural part of any team effort. I am used to stressful situations due to my real-life occupation as a flight instructor. I focus on the problem and not the editor. I will also seek third-party advice. There are 1,000 admins here, it makes sense to ask another for their opinion rather than try to solve a difficult problem alone.
--N419BH (talk) 03:32, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- OK, it might be a day or 2, but I'll come up with a list of common RfA questions interspersed with some of my pet questions for you. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 03:38, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. If you'd like to get anyone else involved that's fine too. My biggest hurdles will be my lack of experience and lack of content contributions. --N419BH (talk) 03:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- OK, it might be a day or 2, but I'll come up with a list of common RfA questions interspersed with some of my pet questions for you. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 03:38, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- If I can jump in here, two things. First though, thanks for helping with my subpage's vandalism--you're really quick. If you are considering an RfA in the near future, it's something I'd like to talk with you about. Shadowjams (talk) 04:30, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes of course. I want questions asked. --N419BH (talk) 04:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'd be very happy to support you in an RfA... I really like your edit history, and I've seen your name around... and we both registered accounts within weeks of each other... but I want to warn you that I don't think an RfA would go well right now. Simply put, you only have about 3,000 edits and over 80% of those are automated. There's nothing wrong with automated edits, don't let anyone convince you otherwise, but understand that people will discount them (including me, to some degree) because of the ease with which someone can amass them. I noticed that you also hadn't contributed to an RFAs. That's completely fine, in fact maybe a good thing, but I think that following a few would be instructive about what the community responds to. I don't necessarily agree with the above as reasons to oppose, but I wanted to give you a very pragmatic heads up about what I think might happen were you to run for RfA tomorrow. Shadowjams (talk) 04:46, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your advice. I actually followed User:Unionhawk's nomination today but didn't comment as I didn't have anything new to add to the conversation. I have a feeling if I RfA'd tomorrow it would go the same way. --N419BH (talk) 04:53, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- True. Unionhawk is a good editor, but he/she needs more experience. Four years ago, adminship for someone with your stats would have been a trivial formality. They might have looked at your edit summary usage percentage (seems like such an antiquated concern). But adminship today is a much different story. There's a certain hostility towards anti-vandalism patrollers, something I think is poisonous to the project, but has to do with a general hostility towards non-content contributions. Ironically, one of the greatest anti-vandalism blockers at the moment, User:Materialscientist had a rough RfA and very little anti-vandalism assertions in his initial nomination.
- Thanks for your advice. I actually followed User:Unionhawk's nomination today but didn't comment as I didn't have anything new to add to the conversation. I have a feeling if I RfA'd tomorrow it would go the same way. --N419BH (talk) 04:53, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'd be very happy to support you in an RfA... I really like your edit history, and I've seen your name around... and we both registered accounts within weeks of each other... but I want to warn you that I don't think an RfA would go well right now. Simply put, you only have about 3,000 edits and over 80% of those are automated. There's nothing wrong with automated edits, don't let anyone convince you otherwise, but understand that people will discount them (including me, to some degree) because of the ease with which someone can amass them. I noticed that you also hadn't contributed to an RFAs. That's completely fine, in fact maybe a good thing, but I think that following a few would be instructive about what the community responds to. I don't necessarily agree with the above as reasons to oppose, but I wanted to give you a very pragmatic heads up about what I think might happen were you to run for RfA tomorrow. Shadowjams (talk) 04:46, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes of course. I want questions asked. --N419BH (talk) 04:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- As a general rule, I would suggest more content contributions. That is a wide mandate though. If you have some area of expertise, you can create well sourced stubs about that area; if instead you are interested in some class of already existing articles, you should join up with one of those projects and add where you can. Personally I've done a little bit of all of those. I've added to certain classes of articles that I have professional experience in, and I've also created articles I knew little about before I researched them.
- I'd like to continue this discussion. I think you have tremendous potential for the project and I'd like to contribute whatever experience I have to help. As you might note, I'm not an admin, but I've been extensively involved in the anti-vandalism project and I've stuck my head out on the politically-volatile issue of article deletion. I look forward to seeing you as an admin in the near future. Shadowjams (talk) 05:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Shocker. Wikipedia has politics... oh well, maybe I can create a humor page about that. I've got some ideas in the content department so I'll see what I can add. My big hobbies are aviation accidents and airports. Unfortunately, I think nearly all of the notable ones already have articles. I'll see what I can do to improve those. --N419BH (talk) 05:38, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Hah. So true. You might find the Aviation project receptive, and the air traffic control articles are good too. There are always new air traffic control issues too, not to mention the new FAA regs regarding runway hold time in the U.S. Those are all ripe topics, off the top of my head. Shadowjams (talk) 05:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- I've poked around there, left a few comments, and had their userbox on my profile before. I'll see if there's something in the article creation/expansion department I can contribute to for them. --N419BH (talk) 05:58, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Hah. So true. You might find the Aviation project receptive, and the air traffic control articles are good too. There are always new air traffic control issues too, not to mention the new FAA regs regarding runway hold time in the U.S. Those are all ripe topics, off the top of my head. Shadowjams (talk) 05:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Shocker. Wikipedia has politics... oh well, maybe I can create a humor page about that. I've got some ideas in the content department so I'll see what I can add. My big hobbies are aviation accidents and airports. Unfortunately, I think nearly all of the notable ones already have articles. I'll see what I can do to improve those. --N419BH (talk) 05:38, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Im sorry
I am sorry for vandalizing, i'll get to work making constructive edits
- Getting a timestamp so this will archive; also testing my new signature. N419BH 01:56, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
BP (British Petroleum)
It may have been unconstructive but it was true.
- Again, testing signature and getting a timestamp. N419BH 01:57, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Archiving
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Can someone help me set up automatic archiving on this page? Last time I tried it I messed up. I obviously don't want the notice at the top to archive, and I'd like it to archive by date. Thanks!
- I'll give it a go :-) Captain n00dle\Talk 22:10, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- Should be done! Just wait until the bots wander around tomorrow :-)
- Your first archive will appear here, This page is an indexed list of your archives, and This page is the template for the indexed list.
- Hope that's okay! Best regards, Captain n00dle\Talk 22:22, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help! --N419BH (talk) 22:25, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Yey it worked! At the moment it is archiving threads that are older than 31 days, if you want to change that then check out the different ways here: User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo Regards, Captain n00dle\Talk 21:45, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- I've just noticed, only sections with two or more time signatures are archived, so some have not been, I do not know how to get around this, but perhaps you could just sign each section that you want archiving twice? Captain n00dle\Talk 21:49, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- That works; thanks for letting me know. --N419BH (talk) 23:13, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Fairchild Dornier 328JET
I read a recent comment you posted to another page where you lamented about an article you had created only to find it already existed. It seems to me that your article has every right to stand on it's own merit. The other Article mentions the model 428 but as the title shows it is an article on the model 328. Merely being mentioned does not preclude your article. I would continue to improve the article you created and it should have it's own notability. Additionally where they mention the model 428 I would make it a wikilink to your page and "drive on". I can't see any reason for objection. Good luck!My76Strat (talk) 02:03, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the encouragement. My concern was the page on the 428 was originally a redirect to the 328JET. I'll keep looking for information on the airplane. I think Fairchild Dornier was looking at a Turboprop version as well (to be called simply 428) and maybe even a 528 turboprop but I can't find anything anywhere. They probably never got off the drawing board. N419BH 02:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Signature
Hey - Just wanted to say I like your new signature! Cya Traxs7 (Talk) 05:11, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestion. I have been noticing a lot of other signatures like that. Traxs7 05:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Help Anwar_al-Awlaki & Assassination
Re your post on my talk. We got the edit war in Anwar_al-Awlaki to Talk:Anwar_al-Awlaki at last. But now it is spilling over to Assasination and the guy won't seek consensus in talk, just a quick post there and boom - massive redirect edit. This isn't helping, we need to talk obviously - not edit. 98.248.59.58 (talk) 06:53, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
New Signature Testing
Hi dear... testing the signature on your talkpage. Delete if needed. :)
ElationAviation(talk) 19:43, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Nope; doesn't work. Shows up as times new roman. N419BH 19:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Now? ElationAviation(talk) 19:51, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Anind Dey is Canadian
He was born in canada and is Indian NOT EVEN REMOTELY Chinese. I know him personally and have just confirmed this information with his wife. Please stop undoing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.13.114.51 (talk) 00:46, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Friendly Protection
Thank you for reverting the vandalism on my userpage Piratejosh85 (talk) 16:30, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Issue with user
I've seen you have brought up an issue(s) with User:E and b, on the user's talk page.
The user has been creating vandalism to The Naked Brothers Band (TV series).
I would agree to block the user and I'm pretty sure it's in Wiki's policies somewhere that they have no tolerance regarding age limit (I know there is some policies regarding disabilities), but according to their user page, it says:
Evan and Braden Swope are two crazy kids who like to make movies with there camera.Evan is 11 years old and braden is 9 years old.Right now they are currently filming the juju bros.
And I personally would feel bad blocking there IP address, because they are only kids messing around on the computer (who probably don't know how to look at their user page and don't understand that they're doing wrong on Wikipedia.)
I would just block there user account (there is no way of verifying that they're kids, but we can infer based on their user page & in the worse case, would block there IP address if they were involved in any sort of sock pupating.)
Thanx and please reply on my talk page.
ATC . Talk 01:36, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- Not an admin, just warned them. Looks like they've been temporarily blocked. N419BH 04:52, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
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If you do not want this userright, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. -FASTILY (TALK) 00:57, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you! N419BH 01:00, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
User SpigotMap
This user: SpigotMap has been a pain for YEARS in PlaneShift, it's not a personal attack is a real fact. Years ago he started a campaign against the Game, and if you check his edits he is continuously removing information from the WIkipedia page, not to mention his requests to have it deleted. He not acting in good faith that's the point. He should be banned, or anyway prevented from vandalizing again the article. Xyz231 (talk) 17:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
- Discussing issue on the user's talk page. N419BH 17:56, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
- Check your email. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:35, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
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For reverting vandalism on my user page...
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Dating this so the bot will archive it. N419BH 15:24, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Star naming controversy AfD
You may wish to comment on the article for deletion page for the Star naming controversy article. Aldebaran66 (talk) 04:29, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks...
...for that! BOVINEBOY2008 :) 01:47, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
- No problem (date for bot) N419BH 15:26, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
I keep receiving warnings
I have received two warnings for vandalism (User_talk:And_Rew#June_2010. Please explain to me what kind of reference do I need to change Israeli/American to Israeli-American or why do I need to find a reference to change Martin Tyler 's nationality from English to British merely because English isn't a nationality? I would be very please to hear your comment on this. Thank you.-- And Rew 02:43, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for your attention and consideration.-- And Rew 02:59, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Yr Reversion on the Seagate Technology Article
Rather than COI censorship u have two editors (Richharrisstx and I) who agree that the material is TMI and IMO biased and deliberately defamatory to Seagate. For example, Convolve has apparently sued Seagate, WD, HGST, Dell, etc, but the only place this lawsuit appears is in the Seagate article. Furthermore, it is one sided, almost like it has been written by a lawyer for Convolve - without saying so, it appears that Seagate didn't do to much or pay too much to avoid the patent. Similarly, firmware upgrades of computer equipment are so common as to question why here and not in every firmware based computer product starting with MB BIOSes. The "clicking" article might be fair, but I am pretty close to disk drive industries and I have to say this one never rose to the level of some other and very famous problems, like the IBM DeathStar of Iomega's real Click of Death. So it appears to me that the material was posted by someone with an axe to grind against Seagate and therefore compromises the integrity of Wikipedia. Thus, IMO u have reverted to vandalism. BTW, I have no affiliation with Seagate and have never worked for them. Tom94022 (talk) 06:14, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
- Replied on Tom94022's talk page. N419BH 13:58, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Re:Question
Hello. That's odd, I must have not been paying attention and must have accidently removed that when I was commenting on the ban of another user. Sorry about that, it was not intentional. RG (talk) 00:47, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
- Replied on user's talk page. N419BH 00:51, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Response.
I have responded to your assertion on my talk page. bd2412 T 20:54, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
- Resolved; wrong edit in question. N419BH 14:03, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Comment
If you want to comment Talk:Finasteride#Proposed_Image_Layout there that would be GREAT... — raeky (talk | edits) 14:49, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
- Commented, with a disclaimer that I was asked to here. N419BH 14:58, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
PBML
See WP:DENY. Begging for one last chance is trolling 101. Even if it's funny, don't say so. Sincerely, Jack Merridew 02:29, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
- Replied at Jack's talk page. Also edited edit in question. N419BH 02:43, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
RE:ANI and Rollback
Thanks for the advice. I'm glad you understand, and I will try to limit my use of the function. It is just so much easier when a user has contributed like 5 bad edits and with one click you and revert them all. And as for the user that nominated me, we have a history and he always points out every petty edit of mine, for example once in a GA review he pointed out like 35+ things wrong with it, and the second time I nominated, the editor only noticed two or three. And as you see took the time to search all of my edits. He did notify me on my talk page to limit use of rollback in case my rollback is revoked, and he ends up the one reporting me. Anyway, thanks for the assistance. Candyo32 (talk) 18:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
IRC cloak
Hi. I see that you applied for a wikipedia/ cloak. However, we cannot give you a cloak without a registered nickname. So, you'd have to register your nick, N419BH, and send a memo to wmfgc, confirming that you indeed want a cloak. Thanks --Filip (§) 21:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I discovered IRC's firewalled where I'm currently at, so I couldn't complete the request. Expect another request in 6-8 weeks. N419BH 21:30, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
- Alright. Thanks for a prompt response. --Filip (§) 22:32, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
WP:OWNTALK
Thanks for the info, perhaps the rules on my original Wikipedia differ, or I've just been misinformed (probably the latter). In any case, I've fulfilled my obligation. --Paxcoder (talk) 15:47, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
There are no sources
That's my point. - Ledenierhomme (talk) 17:07, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
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Cfm ignored
I am afraid with the merger of Category:Banks of China and Category:Banks of the People's Republic of China, there is no longer any way to identify those banks that aren't related to the ROC. If no administrators action is taken, it is effectively turning a green light to people who ignores Wikipedia conventions and consensus building processes, that Cfd decisions are to be ignored, and that category mergers require no Cfd. 61.18.170.1 (talk) 20:38, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- His redundant category merge was done in good faith. He wasn't aware of the Cfd decision. N419BH 20:43, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- As mentioned he has a track record of ignoring Cfd decisions, and he has been a long-time advocate to ignore political NPOV regarding China and Taiwan. The merger was part of his troll. 61.18.170.232 (talk) 00:13, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
- There are now two categories using common names "Banks of China" and "Banks of Taiwan". Geographically speaking, these names are correct. Politically speaking, they are not. N419BH 14:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- That depends on one's POV. Some people regard Taiwan as geographically part of China. Some don't. User:SchmuckyTheCat is well known for ignoring the political NPOV conventions. 61.18.170.139 (talk) 17:05, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- We don't cater to minority views as long as they are represented in prose. That isn't ignoring NPOV, it is just normal practice and common sense. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)
- That depends on one's POV. Some people regard Taiwan as geographically part of China. Some don't. User:SchmuckyTheCat is well known for ignoring the political NPOV conventions. 61.18.170.139 (talk) 17:05, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
wikia
You know I'm indef'd on a fistful of wikia sub-domains? Hoot is, they're ones I've never even edited. They let anyone be an admin over there. I've never done boo on wikia; when indef'd on en:wp, I went to commons:, meta:, id:, jv: and s:. My SUL account is active on 178 WMF projects, although I've not actually edited on about half of them. See sulutil:Jack Merridew and dbswithuser. Cheers, Jack Merridew 06:58, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
p.s. The sig I tidied up still has a nit in it; find:
style= "color:Black
and change it to:
style="color:Black
ya, just a loose space ;)
You should also change 'serif' to 'sans-serif' as 'Arial Bold' is a sans-serif typeface and that's presumably what you'd prefer as backup in case it's not available. I'd tweak the case, too, although I doubt it will cause problems. fyi, I once fixed a odd bug in an app that no one had been able to find; a dev with a small child and a bunch of DVDs had spelled the main version of that typeface "Ariel". Jack Merridew 07:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Closing a discussion at AN/I
I reverted your recent good-faith edit, since it's possible I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain that controversial community consensus discussions should only be closed after by deliberation of an admin. I'll leave this open to be reverted if an admin corrects me or if you can cite policy stating otherwise, but I believe this is the case. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 13:56, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- The close was requested by the originator of the ban discussion, and they summed up consensus nicely. I'll look up the rules but I believe within reason that is permissible. Give me a minute to surf the policy pages. N419BH 14:02, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- If the same rule which applies to AfDs also applies to consensus discussions like this one, I believe policy states that non-admin closure is only appropriate if the nomination is withdrawn and there has been no support by other users. In any case it's much less likely to be challenged if closed by a sysop. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 14:05, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I can't seem to find policy specific to admin noticeboards, only AfD. The only thing I did find was Wikipedia:Closing discussions, which states "the closing admin" several times. While not an explicit prohibition against non-admin closing of discussions, I'd say it's at least an indirect indication of what's expected. I'll leave it as is. Thoughts? N419BH 14:13, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, probably best to leave it to admins to close consensus discussions in future; clearly you closed it in good-faith though, so there's no problem. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 14:15, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I can't seem to find policy specific to admin noticeboards, only AfD. The only thing I did find was Wikipedia:Closing discussions, which states "the closing admin" several times. While not an explicit prohibition against non-admin closing of discussions, I'd say it's at least an indirect indication of what's expected. I'll leave it as is. Thoughts? N419BH 14:13, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- If the same rule which applies to AfDs also applies to consensus discussions like this one, I believe policy states that non-admin closure is only appropriate if the nomination is withdrawn and there has been no support by other users. In any case it's much less likely to be challenged if closed by a sysop. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 14:05, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Pifeedback
Pifeedback
Could you give your opinion on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Pifeedback.com?ChaosMaster16 (talk) 12:52, 13 July 2010 (UTC)ChaosMaster16
My signature
Thanks! Smokey(TheCat). 18:07, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Regarding Herostratus
In an amusing coincidence, this is precisely how I would assess every situation in which I've ever had my attention drawn to User:Herostratus: he just doesn't get it. Details available upon request, of course, but I don't want to be guilty of poisoning the well for someone who's been engaging with him productively. --erachima talk 05:12, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
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- You're Welcome! :) Thanks for letting me know about the mistake on the box. I fixed it at the source and it has transcluded to your page already, so no worries on fixing it. Take Care...Neutralhomer • Talk • 04:15, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
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- ...another. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 04:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- ...still another. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 13:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)