User talk:Muchness/2007-03

Chink AfD

The Chink article has been greatly expanded now. Please take a look and see if you are interested in reconsidering your vote for merge. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 14:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. --Muchness 16:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Roberto Baggio / 'ballon'

Apologies for that one. I've asked for that erroneous fix to be removed from the list at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Typos —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rjwilmsi (talk • contribs) 19:42, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

No problem, thanks. --Muchness 20:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Apology from Ventifax

I'm sorry for wigging out on you yesterday. I was being an ass. Thanks for the additional info you've given me on how Wikipedia works.

I really had no idea that Nadia Turner had previously been deleted, & it still seems incredibly arbitrary to delete that one contestant page. That's why I flipped out. Now, I'm thinking pretty seriously about the larger issues here. It does seem odd the degree to which people use this as a general fansite for whatever is current. Ventifax 23:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry about it, it's not a problem :) Articles are usually nominated for deletion in accordance with the judgment of individual editors rather than by a systematic process; if a particular editor feels an article doesn't meet WP's inclusion standards he or she will list it at AFD. That's why it can seem (and, in fact, often is) arbitrary. --Muchness 00:05, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Muchness

Hello I have noticed that your user name is unique and that is a name you don't see often. But what does Muchness stand for anyway? King Lopez ^Contribs 08:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Hello, it's a reference to the phrase "much of a muchness", meaning "just about the same" or "essentially similar; differing only in the details". When I joined Wikipedia, I intended to be a low-key contributor doing WikiGnome work, and I wanted my username to reflect that. --Muchness 13:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Eminem

No problem and thanks. I'mma new so thanks again. I would like to report another fact in eminem article. that ascociated facts are not accurate. In ascociated facts Xzibit and Nate Dogg should be their. I edited it few times but no use. will you take a look at that please and correct it. You Italian? thanks again for that image thing.--Frans Adiesha 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Hello, the "associated acts" field is for "acts from which this act spun off; acts which spun off a group act; groups with which an artist performs; other acts with which the act is associated." I'm not an expert on Eminem's career, so I can't make a judgment on whether Xzibit and Nate Dogg should be included. The best way to resolve content disputes is to provide reliable sources to substantiate your facts, and discuss any disputed edits with other editors on the article's talk page. Another minor note about image use: fair use images like Image:Eminemydk.JPG should only be used in articles (see WP:NFCC#9), and images should never be used in signatures (see WP:SIG#Images).

BTW, I'm not Italian. --Muchness 21:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

you told me about sources. So there are videos where Eminem and Xzibit perform together and also there is an official music video Don't Approach Me Xzibit ft Eminem as sources may I link those youtube videos on talkpage. Please reply me. Be seein ya. Sorry for actlike idiot on that image thing--Frans Adiesha 07:10, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry about the images, it's not a big deal. We can't link to most Youtube videos because they are usually hosted without the permission of the copyright holder. --Muchness 21:24, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I forgot to mention in Xzibit's article on the ascociated acts there is Eminem. Please take a look at that. thanks--Frans Adiesha 07:14, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Probably the best course of action is to propose the addition on the article's talk page and get input from other editors with expert knowledge. --Muchness 21:24, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

in the article's talk page can i give youtube links to those vids. help me to sort this out man you gotta help me--Frans Adiesha 06:04, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I've started a discussion about this on the article's talk page. Like I said, I'm not an expert on this subject, but maybe other editors can help you resolve this. --Muchness 02:11, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps i thought too highly of you

I thoght we got it all cleared up that i was never any puppetmaster months ago, which then led me to think we were friends on this website. We both edited in the same forums to make it better, i understand my past on the site is what killed me, but for you to stab me in the back... I would have thought that after you recognized me you would have stayed loyal and at least not given me a vote at all, but instead you gave me an "oppose" with plenty of clarification. I understand its your job, but i still would have thought you would ahve remained loyal, i guess i was wrong. My best wishes to you non the less. Teniii 9:10, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Or maybe i thought too highly of myself...i apologise and just wanted to say u won't see mee anymore on wikipedia. If i ever want to be an administrator i will have to make a new account and start off fresh. hehe. Unless of course i somehow make a miraculous comeback and get nominated which will never happen, but if it did, then maybe i would re-think things. hahaha, seeya around man. Teniii 9:23, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I raised what I consider to be legitimate concerns about your suitability as an admin, which is my responsibility as an RFA participant. Looking back, I should have worded my comments more diplomatically and respectfully, and will do so in future. The bottom line is that I feel that some of your past edits have not been in keeping with the standards of conduct expected of an admin, and your edits have not convinced me that you are ready for adminship at this time. No offense, but I'd prefer to keep discussion on this talk page focussed on issues relating to article content and policy/guideline issues (you can email me if you want to discuss other things off-wiki). Please don't let my comments discourage you from contributing in good faith to improving the encyclopedia. --Muchness 02:17, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Thanks for the warnings. I'm sorry I wasn't that careful about uploading images. I won't do it again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Number1spygirl (talk • contribs) 14:35, 10 May 2007 (UTC) (UTC)

No problem, thank you. --Muchness 15:33, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that copy/paste thing with "Mal".

Completely missed the "move" button up there. Good luck with things. Kennard2 09:06, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

No problem, currently listed for attention at WP:SPLICE. --Muchness 09:07, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

hologram page

Got your message about the holograms page, if you want my references, I looked up the books I used again in the library catalogue, here they are:

• Holographie optique: developpements, applications, par J.C. Vienot, P. Smigielske / [et] H. Royer. Pref. de D. Gabor. Paris, Dunod, 1971 bibl., illus
• Optical holography : principles, techniques, and applications

Hariharan, P Cambridge ; New York : Cambridge University Press, 1984

• Lasers & holography : an introduction to coherent optics

Kock, Winston E New York : Dover Publications, 1981

• Principles of holography

Smith, Howard M. (Howard Michael), 1938- New York : Wiley, [1975]

• Lasers and holography: an introduction to coherent optics

Kock, Winston Edward

My understandings that I added mostly came about from reading "Principles of holography" (EXCELLENT little introductory book!) and the others were mostly for other parts of my assignment however they all contributed to the stuff I added. If specific pages and and specific references are required I can go reborrow the books and find every reference (might take a page in itself!) But if just the particular books are ok, I don't know how book references need to be added, maybe you can add them in for me? Once I've rewritten my additions so that they sound ok (no longer "chatty" or in 2nd person) and gotten a friend to rejig the diagrams so that they look reasonable (or, do you know a wiki person who is good at photoshop?) can I put my addition back in? Do I need to ask the original author of the article before adding content? I have heaps more tucked away in my head to add, if I am allowed to!!! My initial impression is that Wikipedia looks like loads of fun, can share my knowledge with everyone, however there appears to be a gigantic complicated social structure behind it...... i hope my adding of content didn't appear malicious, I promise it was intended completely innocently!! Quantumcat 12:50, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I'm sorry but I can't recall what this discussion is about. Can you give me a link to the previous discussion or edits where this issue was raised? Thanks and sorry for the bother. --Muchness 13:01, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

You told me off for having added content to someone else's page (Holography), and for not citing any references. Quantumcat 01:56, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Right, I was confused because you previous edits were from the IPs 130.56.65.25 (talk · contribs) and 130.56.65.24 (talk · contribs). My note was about your edits to the Roberto Baggio article. I'm sorry if I came across as rude or unwelcoming. See Wikipedia's guidelines on trivia, the neutral point of view, citing sources and tone for more info on why I reverted your edits. As a general rule of thumb, edits should be written in a neutral, formal tone, and attributed to reliable sources.

By the way, nobody owns articles, and everybody is free to contribute to any article. Please be bold in updating articles; other editors will work with you to address any problems. I see that discussion regarding your edits is already on-going at the holography talk page, and that's the best place to work out any outstanding issues with your edits. If you're unsure about whether the info you want to add is in keeping with Wikipedia's content policies, you can create a personal sandbox page and post a draft of your proposed edits there, then leave a note at the article's talk page inviting interested editors to review your proposed edits for inclusion in the article. --Muchness 03:33, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Re:

I was experimenting with the template back in the day, and entered a totally random name (and accidentally created the page). I forgot to tag it for speedy deletion, thanks for pointing that out. Aquarius • talk 04:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

No problem, thanks. --Muchness 04:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Muchness: Please can you contact me

Hi, l viewed my website's listing on www.aboutus.com and www.whois.sc.

It appears to be listed as a sender of spam? And apparently, it might be a mistake as someone might have used a domain proxy server or some other technological term, but l have no way of finding out as none of the representatives of www.aboutus.com are reachable. I could leave a message by logging in, but my wikipedia login is unrecognised and there is no facility to create an account despite it being said that l could "login / create an account".

And l've noticed that all of my wikipedia posts have been deleted. Please can l ask what's going on here as l have only just become aware of this problem. I am definitely not a spammer, and have no desire for any trouble. Please can you tell me what is going on here?

You can send me an email at: [email address removed in the interests of spam protection --Muchness 22:13, 18 June 2007 (UTC)] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bibliobaggins (talk • contribs) 03:08, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Hello. External link spamming on Wikipedia is defined as, "Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product". Links to your website were removed because a) Wikipedia's external links guidelines recommend that editors avoid linking to sites they own or maintain, and b) Wikipedia prohibits linking to sites that exist primarily to sell a product or service. See Advertising and conflicts of interest for more info. --Muchness 05:52, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Modifications to 'Nigger' entry in wikipedia

Hi, Muchness, I posted you some UrLs supporting my proposed text for the word 'Nigger'. I would like to get your feedback ASAP.

Incidentally, you may want to check out this site too:

http://niggermania.com/

It will probably help you understand why the 'neutral' definition given in Wikipedia is a Eurocentric one. As I mentioned earlier, if this problematic word is to be covered in Wikipedia, it needs to be covered in full detail (warts and all) - and not simply observed through "rose tinted" Eurocentric spectacles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.130.208.224 (talk • contribs) 05:21, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

After reviewing the links and text you added to the talk page, it's not clear to me what encyclopedic additions you are trying to make. The link you provided above fails Wikipedia's guidelines for reliable sources, so it can't be used as the basis for legitimate additions to Wikipedia articles. I can only recommend that you rework your proposed addition into succinct, sourced encyclopedic prose, and work with other interested parties on the article's talk page. Please see the guide to writing better articles for more info on writing effective material for Wikipedia articles. --Muchness 06:43, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

confusion

Hi there I just saw your comment on my page, I have no idea who Robert Bagio is, I think someone else had my IP address!!! That's where the confusion was :-) I have only edited a few pages on bridge and the holography page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.56.65.24 (talk • contribs) 14:27, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh! Sorry about that... :) --Muchness 18:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

2RR

I have reverted the page twice in 24 hours. Take a look the last two included the material from early May (that is work continued). And arbcom has consistently found that tendentious editing is vandalism. And that is what that is. You owe him a real explination. We left the page your way while fateclub came up with his response. jbolden1517^Talk 02:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Here are your three reverts: 01:43, 30 May 2007, 02:27, 30 May 2007, 02:44, 30 May 2007; here is number 4: 03:04, 30 May 2007. Discussion on the talk page was on-going, with Fateclub, Cuchullain, Jwy and myself all expressing opinions. I can see no useful reason for you to instigate a revert-war while other editors were engaged in good faith discussion about resolving a content dispute. My position was, and remains, to default to the standard disambiguation format, reflecting the letter and spirit of current guidelines, until editors agree on a compromise alternative. Your recent page-move was disruptive and uncalled for.--Muchness 03:16, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Your first and your second listed articles aren't the same. And you weren't discussing in good faith with Fateclub that was the problem. Nor was your position to simply default, you constantly reverted even after strong objects were raised (and not answered). jbolden1517^Talk 03:19, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Obviously I disagree with you characterization of my conduct as bad faith, but I'll leave it at that. I hope we can work on the talk page towards a resolution that's acceptable to (and respectful of) all parties. --Muchness 05:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

tagging of possibly unfree images

Hi Muchness. I was pleasantly surprised to see that you tagged a few photos I uploaded. I'm new to this whole asking for permission and GDFL thing, so although I did get permission I didn't know how to document it. Thanks to the links you provided I've figured it out and sent off the appropriate correspondences to the appropriate people. I think everything is under control, and hopefully all of these photos will be taken care of soon. Thanks for the heads up, and if I miss another step feel free to let me know. Drewcifer3000 06:11, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

No problem, glad that's sorted. --Muchness 06:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

thanks for welcome + question on photo copyright

Hi Muchness,

Thanks for the welcome, which finally resulted in me becomming a member.

A question; I've just noticed that a photo has been uploaded with mistaken copyrights. It is the photo of a Slender Antbird currently used here. It was uploaded via the Portuguese section of wiki by the user Caioipiau, where it was claimed it was copyrighted to a Mark Fellint. Unfortunately that is not the case; it was taken by Arthur Grosset, a well-known figure in Brazilian ornithology, and certainly not a person who'd allow his photos to be used for "for any purpose". It can, together with numerous other photos, also be seen on his page here: http://www.arthurgrosset.com/sabirds/slenderantbird.html

Anyway, it seems you're up-to-speed on wiki, so I'm just wondering if you'd know what to do about this.Rabo3 03:18, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I've nominated both versions of this image for deletion in accordance with your concerns (see deletion request). --Muchness 03:58, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Shared Computers and Personal Messages

Muchness,

Please be aware that some IP addresses relate to shared computers (i.e., library, university, work). I did not edit any article on Steven Gerrard, but work in a university in which shared computers are the norm, so I presume someone else did. I appreciate your diligence in sending a rebuke to the culprit, but please in future consider the possibility of multiple use computers when castigating editors.193.61.176.108 22:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello. The message was certainly not intended to discourage good faith editors from making constructive edits; this situation is unfortunately one of the pitfalls of shared IPs. The best advice I can offer is to register an account, and encourage others who edit Wikipedia through shared computers to also register accounts. I've added a disclaimer to the IP's talk page, to forestall the possibility future confusion. I hope this is sufficient to address your concerns. Regards. --Muchness 01:04, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the disclaimer to the IP talk page. It eliminates the feeling of unfathomable persecution! 193.61.176.108 21:13, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

No problem :) --Muchness 21:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

non-English external site

as mentioned here: [1] the citation to a non-English site is not prohibited. meamwhile, this persian group are among the very rare ACADEMIC groups working on the Bohm's ideas about Dialogue and Cosmic dimention. in my idea, your behaviour in removing this external link is biased and not acceptable. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.71.123.59 (talk • contribs) 11:52, 26 June 2007.

WP:EL mentions specific criteria where a link to a foreign language site may be appropriate: when it is the official site of an article's subject, when it is a link to a subject's text, or when it contains visual aids. The provided link does not meet any of these criteria. --Muchness 20:14, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi!

You'll want to participate in the following discussion: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Sockpuppetry_in_AfD

Good luck! --172.131.128.25 23:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

An admin has already blocked the account involved in the bulk of the disruptive editing, but if the abusive sockpuppetry persists the remaining accounts should be blocked. I will leave a message to that effect at WP:AN/I if the problems persist. --Muchness 03:58, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I have answered your question to me on my own page

But you are right of course, as it's unfortunelately impossible to fix one owns edit summaries, they are the one thing to really be careful with. Greswik 21:35, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the misunderstanding, I left a note and apology on your talk page. Regards. --Muchness 21:45, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for catching and tagging the copyvio images uploaded by User:Mattythewhite. I have deleted them along with some others he took, and I have discussed things with him. Hopefully, he now understands the applicable policies. -- But|seriously|folks  23:57, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. I left a follow-up note on your talk page. --Muchness 00:03, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering about #7 on that page! -- But|seriously|folks  00:09, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

 :) --Muchness 00:24, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

He says he was using the same type of camera used to take those pictures (according to the exif data), but wasn't sure whether they were his. He does acknowledge that if they appear on the rivals.net websites, they're not his. I'll continue to WP:AGF and delete the ones I can find elsewhere, and see if the exif data can help distinguish them. Thanks for all of your work on this to keep Wikipedia safe! -- But|seriously|folks  17:37, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

RE: Matty's photos. Perhaps a little more tact could be used with the lad who's clearly taken a lot of them himself - a bit of perspective and joviality wouldn't go amiss on this website. Anyway, Image_talk:David_mcgurk7.jpg is a case in point. All the best. Me677 00:27, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

If you'll review his upload log, you can see he has been engaging in large scale copyright violations. Furthermore, he's declined to be upfront about image sourcing, forcing other editors to comb through his contribs trying to track down possible copyright violations. Of course civility is an important part of editing Wikipedia, but when a user engages in serious policy violations (in this case, violating copyright and WP:IUP) after repeated notices, warnings and discussion, sometimes administrative action needs to be taken as a last recourse. --Muchness 00:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Jitterbug

I added a note on Talk:Jitterbug that you had closed the move request. (I also sometimes forget to sign!) ●DanMS • Talk 21:52, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! --Muchness 21:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

way late answer...

Hi. I was away so I did not get your message about the image uploads of Mattythewhite. But I see that Butseriouslyfolks (talk · contribs) has taken care of it all. In any case thanks a lot for making admins aware of such problems. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 15:04, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

No problem, thanks. --Muchness 18:12, 23 July 2007 (UTC)