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Administrators' newsletter – February 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2019).

Administrator changes

Enterprisey • JJMC89

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Harro5 • Jenks24 • Graft • R. Baley

Interface administrator changes

Enterprisey

Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment is currently open to reevaluate the activity requirements for administrators.
• Administrators who are blocked have the technical ability to block the administrator who blocked their own account. A recent request for comment has amended the blocking policy to clarify that this ability should only be used in exceptional circumstances, such as account compromises, where there is a clear and immediate need.
• A request for comment closed with a consensus in favor of deprecating The Sun as a permissible reference, and creating an edit filter to warn users who attempt to cite it.

Technical news

• A discussion regarding an overhaul of the format and appearance of Wikipedia:Requests for page protection is in progress (permalink). The proposed changes will make it easier to create requests for those who are not using Twinkle. The workflow for administrators at this venue will largely be unchanged. Additionally, there are plans to archive requests similar to how it is done at WP:PERM, where historical records are kept so that prior requests can more easily be searched for.

Miscellaneous

• Voting in the 2019 Steward elections will begin on 08 February 2019, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 28 February 2019, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
• A new IRC bot is available that allows you to subscribe to notifications when specific filters are tripped. This requires that your IRC handle be identified.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:15, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

User:Rudy2alan/KEWE (AM)

I started the article, but find the Hawaii markets a little confusing.........would you check to verify that KEWE (AM) belongs in the Maui Radio template. I noticed another new station for which there's no article: KCIK 740 AM and I think it belongs in the Maui Radio template also???? By the way, feel free to add to/delete items from this new station draft. User:Rudy2alan (talk)

I am planning to move this to Article space; any suggestions before I do? User:Rudy2alan (talk)

No, I think you've got a good stub started. Let it loose on the wild and see if anyone else can hop on. Mlaffs (talk) 01:55, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

KJAK

There's something going on with this station in Slaton, Texas on 92.7. I found their call letters on the FCC database as KVCE, but the station website still shows KJAK. I changed the call letters in the links section but wasn't sure if the article should be renamed?? user:Rudy2alan (talk)

Yeah, the station's call sign changed on January 30th. I've been busy this week so I haven't got to it yet, but it's on my list. Websites, especially for small stations, often lag by a lot to get updated, or they might just launch a completely new site for the new call sign and forget to take the old one down.Mlaffs (talk) 02:56, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Question

I guess I didn't read the lead of List of radio stations in Ohio closely enough ("FCC-licensed") which led to your reverts here and here. However, am I correct to assume that such articles can be added to other pages/categories/templates (List of radio stations owned by iHeartMedia, Category:Radio stations in Cleveland, {{Cleveland Radio}}, etc.) which do not explicitly limit entries to those with a unique license? Levdr1lp / talk 23:18, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Those would certainly be fair game, at least as far as I'd be concerned. For categories, there'd obviously need to be an article apart from the one for the primary station. For a list article, I'd probably list it alongside the primary (as opposed to being its own bullet), but that's just me. In the templates, if the HD channel is broadcast on a translator, I find that it's most often the translator/translator frequency that's included rather than the HD channel. The only places you generally wouldn't include them are the state lists, the FM alpha lists, and the frequency lists — those have been historically kept to only the licensed stations.

To be honest, the only reason I came across your edits is because I have the state lists on my watchlist — they tend to attract a lot of weirdness and, yeah, it's really easy to miss that lede paragraph. I've seen your name around; didn't figure it was anything malicious. Mlaffs (talk) 23:29, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. Your thoughts on how to treat most other pages/categories/etc. are basically the same as my own, FWIW. Levdr1lp / talk 23:48, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

WP:AIV

Hello. WP:AIV is a little overloaded. Could you come and handle some reports? Thank you. CLCStudent (talk) 16:25, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Short pages template

Hi, I don't think there's any need to manually remove {{short pages monitor}}, there's a bot that does that now: Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Bot1058 5. – Uanfala (talk) 00:15, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

KEWE (AM)

KEWE in now an article; just added the station logo. Thanks for the help! I'll see what I can do with the station on 740 kHz. User:Rudy2alan (talk)

FM translator "established in" years

Hi Mlaffs. Could you please explain how you choose an establishment date for FM translators? I'm assuming that you use an FCC link, but which one? Thanks. Levdr1lp / talk 10:36, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

I actually don't look at translators any differently than I would full AM or FM stations for that — I always use the date when the station was first issued a license to cover. Two sources for that: 1) the FCC's FM Query Broadcast Station Search at https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/fm-query or 2) REC Networks' FCCdata.org search at https://fccdata.org/?lang=en&search=fcc. REC Networks is basically scraping the FCC's updates, so it's the same information (and links to the FCC for actual applications and licenses), but I find their interface a little more user friendly. Mlaffs (talk) 23:38, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Oh, I use FCC online database all the time. I meant what specific link for a given entry do you use? For example: W233CG. I'm now guessing you first open the FM Query for W233CG; then click the "Links & Maps" tab; then click the "Applications List" link; and lastly, find the earliest date a license to cover was granted, which in this case appears to be 07/11/2007. Is this correct? Is this how you typically go about determining the year of establishment? Levdr1lp / talk 15:17, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

I could, but that Applications List doesn't tell you what type of application each one is, so you have to work your way through them one at a time. More likely if I'm looking for that sort of thing, I'd go to REC Networks instead. So, for the same thing, I'd open the Query for W233CG, and then I can see right from the bottom-right corner where all their applications are listed that the earliest license to cover was granted on 07/11/2007, because they show exactly what type of application each one was. If I wanted to see more details, then I can click the link for that entry, and it takes me straight into the associated FCC record. For really old stations - not a factor for translators, of course - they also link to the FCC's history cards underneath the applications. Fewer clicks FTW! Mlaffs (talk) 22:48, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

This REC Networks website is an excellent resource. Thank you for bringing it to my attention! Levdr1lp / talk 15:00, 28 February 2019 (UTC)