User talk:MinnesotaTwelves

February 2023

This account has been blocked indefinitely as the 23d known sockpuppet of Jwb23 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) that was created to violate Wikipedia policy. Note that using multiple accounts is allowed, but using them for illegitimate reasons is not, and that all edits made while evading a block or ban may be reverted or deleted. If t you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then going to your main account, Jwb23, adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here ~~~~}} below. - CorbieVreccan ^☊ ☼ 23:00, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

MinnesotaTwelves (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Since it has been a long time, I don’t have the password to post this message to my original account. Two years after my regretful sockpuppetry and edit-warring, I would like the opportunity to return for a second chance. As you can see from my contributions, my first act was admitting my guilt and acknowledging my plans for turning a new page. I return to be a thoughtful editor and add to the encyclopedia. After these two years, I am a changed person who is no longer a stupid teenager. I fully regret and issue a strong apology for my past mistakes. They don’t define me today and I will not commit them again. I would love a second chance and have decided I would like to please be a thoughtful contributor. I return after two years in good faith. I promise to do whatever needs to be done to gain a good standing in the community.

When I return, I will do the following things:

1. I will not edit war or establish any socktrolls. I have read the Wikipedia guidelines on these and have learned my mistake by staying away from wiki for two years. As I don’t have access to my old accounts, I will edit from here and here only.

2. If restored, I will not interact with those whom I disturbed nor will I repeat the edits that originally got me in trouble those years ago.

3. I will devote part of my time and effort to stopping any Sockpuppetry or edit warring. I will do this to pay back those who spent time two years ago dealing with me. As I know how they operate, I will provide as much knowledge as I can to combatting these two evils and helping those who spent time catching me.

As I said, I am willing to do whatever it takes to right the wrongs of the past. Much thanks.

Decline reason:

Having read the discussion with CorbieVreccan below, I think that standard offer is the way to go here. Come back to this account in six months (yes I know the original block is much older than this account, but after 23 socks the path to winning back trust is long). _signed,Rosguill ^talk 06:21, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Hello. Since it has been a while since I did my request, I am wondering when I can have my request reviewed. Thanks MinnesotaTwelves (talk) 22:31, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Looks like there was some random person doing impersonation and vandalism on my talk page and you have thankfully blocked them. I thought my block was **finally** being reviewed, but guess someone wanted to waste your guys’ time. Anytime timeline on when I can have my block reviewed? Another month? Thanks. MinnesotaTwelves (talk) 03:30, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Conversation with CorbieVreccan

User:CorbieVreccan, I don’t have access to my original account after all this time, so I posted here. After my long hiatus, admission of guilt, and promise to be a better editor, I truly hope for the opportunity to edit again. Thanks —- MinnesotaTwelves (talk) 23:15, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User:CorbieVreccan, I wanted to add to my last message that I wasn’t trying to send a bad signal by creating this new account. Since it has been two years, I no longer remember or have my old passwords saved from my terrible socking days. So, I felt this was the only way to beg for my forgiveness and ask for a second chance. —MinnesotaTwelves (talk) 23:21, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My concern is not just the socking, but the edit-warring, the refusal to post on the page of your original account, even with this account when you were able, your not tagging the blocking admins and, most worryingly, your mimicking the username of one of the admins who blocked some of your socks. The other concern is the extreme number of socks you used. 23 is a lot, and makes one have to consider that there could be more that were not found. I've never seen someone who did that extensive a degree of socking reform. - CorbieVreccan ^☊ ☼ 23:22, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User:CorbieVreccan, there is no excuse for my behavior two years ago. But, I was a young and stupid teenager who was frankly not the best version of myself. As I have moved out of my teen years, I am a changed person who is now a conscious adult. If I only remembered my password, the blocking admin, and the accounts of all those who I sadly wronged, I would have 100% contacted them. If it takes a million sorry letters to right my wrongs and allow me to edit again, I am willing to do it. I decided after these years, I can now come back and I created this account to first acknowledge my old mistakes. I only wish, no longer the stupid teen I was back then, to be a constructive editor. Also, all of the accounts I created were found. In addition, some of the ones in the report you linked I don’t even recall creating (maybe they were accidentally connected). I come here in the best of intentions. MinnesotaTwelves (talk) 23:54, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User:CorbieVreccan, please let me know if you have any other questions. I am willing to do whatever needs to be done to be able to edit again after waiting these two years. Much thanks MinnesotaTwelves (talk) 22:32, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As the most recent blocking admin, I have already weighed in. Your block review has been submitted and will now be reviewed by other admins. As long as I'm here I will note that you first claimed that you don't remember who blocked you and who you had conflicts with, but now you are promising that you will avoid the people you had conflicts with. So, you remember now? I am still not encouraged by the inconsistencies and shifts in your statements, along with your history of trolling. I'm also not pleased by how much time you are taking from productive editors. I think anyone reviewing this has to take into account how much time your disruption and needs take vs. any possible benefit that could be gained from unblocking someone with such an extensive history of deception and disruption. - CorbieVreccan ^☊ ☼ 22:46, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User:CorbieVreccan, hope you are doing well. I still don’t remember, it was a short, regretful, stint two years ago. But I promise to make note of the names by looking at the report and follow through on my word. I have not shifted my statements. I come in good faith and want to be as helpful as possible. I, again, fully apologize for my brief and awful time as a socktroll two years ago. That does not define me now. MinnesotaTwelves (talk) 22:53, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, I have not acted needy. I have only been nice and have answered all the questions asked of me. My “history” of those two acts only lasted during the summer of 2021. I have had zero interaction with the wiki since and have promised that action was regretful and is something of the past. I will not be a needy editor or repeat my old mistakes, that I promise. I come here asking for a second chance after all this time. MinnesotaTwelves (talk) 23:00, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Minnesota Twelves / Jwb23, I hope I'm not treading on any admins' toes here, but other than looking for socks / vandals, what kinds of edits do you think you would make here if unblocked? What work did you think of doing when you decided to return? And, not unrelated, have you thought about how you could avoid edit warring? Yngvadottir (talk) 22:36, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User:Yngvadottir, thank you for your question. I plan on focusing almost solely on Minnesota geographical articles (towns and such). I would also maybe venture into editing some local elected leaders too since their pages are always outdated. In answer to your question, wanted to return because I wanted to add the mayor to the Montrose, Minnesota page. Am yes, I have thought a lot about how to avoid edit warring over these past two years. I plan on utilizing the article talk page if any disputes arise. I plan on not having any disputes in the first place too!! Hope these are helpful answers. MinnesotaTwelves (talk) 22:46, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

These are the exact articles you were blocked for edit-warring and socking on. - CorbieVreccan ^☊ ☼ 22:49, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That was two years ago. I come in good faith and have promised not to repeat the edits that got me in trouble. I will not repeat the same errors and do similar actions. As you can tell by my name, that is an interest area for me. That is all. No nefarious intent. MinnesotaTwelves (talk) 22:53, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]