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Voloshinov picture

Way cool. I was first extremely influenced by Marxism and the Philospophy of Language in the mid-1980s, as a philosophy undergrad. A big part of my honors thesis was about Voloshinov, and even my Ph.D. dissertation in philosophy definitely showed strong resonances to VV (but by way of the post-structuralists like Lacan and Althusser; whom I believe VV to have forshadowed in interesting ways). But despite being closer to a "Voloshinovian" than just about anyone else I know of, I had never seen a photo of him before (not that I particularly tried to, but it's interesting to see... not really anything surprising per se: a Russian-looking guy in early 20th C academic garb, but still). It's too bad the photo isn't a bit better quality, but something is certainly better than nothing. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 19:43, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

It is really interesting to see a photo from someone whose writings you have read so much. Me myself I am very much influenced by Voloshinov, one of the rare explicitly marxist approaches to language. You are right of course: "a Russian-looking guy in early 20th C academic garb but still". The source of the photo Encyclopédie francophone des linguistes russes et soviétiques, et d'Europe centrale et orientale from the University of Laussane/Slavic Languages/Linguistics, with lots of interesting things on soviet linguistics. This is the only photo of Voloshinov I have ever come across. I have also added the photo to the greek and the russian version of the article.--Michkalas 13:57, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Ανορθογραφίες

I found a misspelling in the way you spell misspelling: It's missing an s.-Atavi 03:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Judging from the fact that you wrote Ανπρθογραφίες twice, you did it humourously. So... :-) --Atavi 14:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Xαίρετε

Hi, I am very pleased that you liked the image Image:MapOfTurkishSpeakers.png and uploaded it to the Greek Wikipedia. Reading the English text I just wrote last night this time in Greek language was truly exciting for me, since I like to study Greek when I have the time. I am unfortunately not a hundred percent sure that the image is flawless and I think it might need modifications. Please let me know if you notice any mistakes. Regards, Atilim Gunes Baydin 14:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi again. I corrected the error of listing Macedonia twice and updated the image with Denmark and Belgium (I knew I was missing something). I am particularly worried about the actual number of Turkish speakers in the Russian Federation: I've seen figures as low as 10,000 and up to around 100,000 in several places, and I decided to go with the figure stated in the Demographics of Russia article.
Also, thank you for your kind comments. I assume your grandmother was forced to leave her home during the Lausanne population exchange. I feel very sad, deep in my heart, when I think of the difficulties of the time. It would be just wonderful, if both nations could continue to live together in peace like they did until that early 20th century and its wars.
I shall also thank you, for contributing to the Turkish language article with scientific and relevant information while a great many of "contributors" here in Wikipedia are struggling to promote their political / nationalistic views with point-edits and revert wars. Best regards, Atilim Gunes Baydin 21:01, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Age of Greek and Sanskrit

Hi, regarding your edit to Greek language and the relative age of Greek and Sanskrit: As far as I understand, the issue here is whether one counts the oldest preserved texts, or the oldest attested writing. Attestation of Greek is much older in the second sense (Linear B, 14th cent BC), while attestation of Sanskrit is roughly from the same age or just slightly older only in the first sense (according to Vedic Sanskrit, the oldest known Vedic texts were composed around 1200 BC, but written down much later). Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I've got no problem with it either way. Just be prepared to explain things to the reverters... :-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: International Literacy Day

Only administrators can edit what appears on the Main Page, so, if you see an error or omission on the Main Page in the future, please report it again at Talk:Main Page or the appropriate subpage linked to there, and I or another administrator will fix the problem. —Cuiviénen 13:56, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Plantilla:Luengas ofizials d'a UE

I've just fixed the Aragonese Template an:Plantilla:Luengas ofizials d'a UE. Thanks --Willtron (?) 16:20, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Greek language article series

Hi, thanks for the constructive discussion. I've been tinkering with some drafts for an article series as I was proposing it, and I've now put up some skeleton articles at:

I hope this makes it a bit clearer why I feel it would be a good idea to separate the articles in this way. Any comments will of course be appreciated! Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:53, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it would definitely be nice if we could get input from the others again (and I'm saying this not only because they were supporting "my" position :-) ) - Right now it looks like almost evenly divided, with you, Peter Isotalo and Adreas on the one side versus dab, Miskin, Macrakis and me on the other. Perhaps we need to make a handy comparison of the two models so that outsiders understand the issues better. It would also help to see what, according to your model, needs actual changing in comparison to now. Basically, your suggestion means to leave the scope of Greek language more or less as is. That leaves us with the following issues: What to do with the current Modern Greek article - merge completely into Greek language? Or merge only a summary part of it into Greek language and expand the rest into a new (Modern) Greek dialects article? It currently has the varieties-and-sociolinguistic things about Modern Greek, but not the structural sketch things. Apart from that, I guess we'd only need to rename some of the subarticles to make the naming consistent - in particular, we should move the current Greek dialects to Ancient Greek dialects to make place for a new one.
I'm still not happy that on "your" model, we'll never have separate, easily disambiguated link targets for "Greek as a whole", "Greek, specifically ancient" and "Greek, specifically modern". Let's say, as a silly example, that in an article on Polygamy I wanted to write: "the term polygamy comes from the Greek word γαμώ 'to marry'". Now, that link leads the reader to an article that is essentially about a language where γαμώ means something rather different. ;-) Or even worse (though even less seriously): Imagine I wanted to write the following: "The term polygamy comes from the Greek word "γαμώ", which means 'to marry' in Ancient Greek but 'to f..k' in Modern Greek." Ρε γ... το, οn your proposal, the first and the third link would necessarily go to the same article, which would be confusing to readers. We have these kinds of confusion now in many instances, I think.
As for the categories, I think that should be uncontroversial, we can just go ahead and do it if you feel it's a good idea.
The show/hide buttons in the navigation box were just an experiment of mine, I liked them because they made the thingie smaller. We have so many infoboxes in these articles already. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:15, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
P.S. Just to give a less silly example of the problem outlined above: Hypothetical text from an article about Cyrillic: "The Cyrillic letter Θ (Fita, [f]) occurs in words borrowed from Greek containing the letter Θ, which was pronounced [tʰ] in Ancient Greek but [θ] in Modern Greek." - Again, we really need three different link targets here. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:38, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Image:European parliament names.jpg

I'm happy that you liked the picture. It was taken in the european parliament in Brussels. nmnogueira ☼ 23:06, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

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France 24

Hello ! I'm happy to see that there are other Wikipedians out there taking interest in the France 24 article. I just wanted to let you know that even if we don't have the same opinions, it's still a pleasure to work with you. I heard that French is a common second language in Greece, is that true ? --Aquarelle 23:57, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the sources to the France 24 article, I was thinking that perhaps the cause for some of the discrepency is that I get my news mainly from francohpone sources (AFP, France Télévisions), and it seems like you might get yours from anglophone sources (the BBC). I'm searching through all the articles I can find at the moment and comparing the information. We'll get to the bottom of this. --Aquarelle 00:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Check my contributions on the edit history on France 24. I'm having some problems trying to cite the damn sources. Can you work that out ? I'm pretty bad with scripting. --Aquarelle 00:22, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

http://info.france2.fr/dossiers/medias/26375999-fr.php?page=6 I was wrong about the CNN budget ; like I said in the France 24 Talk, my source was outdated. This is a great piece of information here. I'm working on trying to add references to the article. --Aquarelle 00:28, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Chamaeleon European Year of Languages 2001 logo.jpg

It just seems overkill to show two logos for something, especially since only one is official. What's the need? Does it add something significant to the article? └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 16:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Languages of the European Union

  • I have made some changes in the article and I have also included the suggestion you made at the talk page. Take a look. --Michkalas 14:29, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Looks like it's going to stay too. Well done. I did put a paragraph in myself, but it was removed and the table in the next section updated instead. Thanks. JohnI 01:09, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

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EU languages

Hi Michkalas, great work in the section! Please don´t let it get to lenghty, I think the proportion to other sections is fine now. Maybe even shortening some parts is fine for you. I intend to add a table including most spoken languages. all the best Lear 21 13:31, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation to wikiproject. For now, I´m rather inclined to concentrate on EU main article, which needs expansion and quality improvements in all sections. The article is what people around the world encounter at the first place when searching for EU issues. It would be a great step seeing more editors like you contributing there. Maybe you like to contact experts you know in some fields (Transportation for instance) who are able to add profound content. all the best Lear 21 15:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Leonard Orban

Here you have a link from the official Journal of the Romanian State (Monitorul Oficial al României): http://www.monitoruloficial.ro/monitoare/2006/mon1031.htm.

I don't have the original full text of the decision of the romanian Prime Minister.

My translation of the text from romanian Wikipedia is:

By Decision no. 222/27 December 2006 of the Prime Minister of Romania, published in the official Journal of the Romanian State (Monitorul Oficial al României) no. 1031/27 December 2006, Leonard Orban was released from the office of Secretary of State of the Ministry of European Integration of Romania and Chief Negotiator for Romania's accession to the European Union. Cezarika1 17:41, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your message regarding "Leonard Orban" - glad to have been of help!--January2007 14:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Re:Peer review/Leonard Orban

You can do both. How I think about it right now: Have the text copy-edited, wait to see if the copy-editor has any advice to offer you, then go for GA, if GAC is succesful have another peer-review (you can ask simultaneously for a second Biography peer-review, and for a general peer-review). When you think there are no more suggestions in these peer-reviews, go for FAC.

Hmmm ... You know what else you can do: you can also ask for independent reviews. I can recommend you some of the best in Wikipedia: User:SandyGeorgia and User:Yomangani are excellent reviewers. You can politely ask them to have a look at the article; they may even copy-edit it, if they have time. Especially, Sandy will definitely offer a review, if you tell him that I recommended you to ask him to go through the article.--Yannismarou 19:42, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

Re: José Manuel Durão Barroso

Hello,

I do agree with your reasoning, but WP:Portugal thinks Durão Barroso's article makes to the A rating, even if barely. It's very far from a GA, though. If WP:Euro Union thinks it deserves a B so much, why is it wasting time telling the world about it? If I were you people, I'd provide what's making it lack an A rating and make everyone in Wikipedia win, but that's just me :)

--Saoshyant talk / contribs (please join WP:PT or WP:SPOKEN) 10:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

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Don't worry about Domitius, we'll easily get to an understanding with him. I'm rather too tired now to touch the article myself. I must have that Trudgill paper somewhere around here. Have you got the full text of the other article you were quoting? Regards, Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:52, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

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I added a box on Portal talk:Language that lists you and me as the two people who maintain the portal. If you don't want to be on maintenance "officially," I'll remove your name. In any case, thanks for keeping it up so far. I'm sorry I haven't paid as much attention to it in awhile. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 06:04, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

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Re:Leonard Orban

Sure, I'll look into it. I'm interested in anything that pertains to people and culture, so this topic does tickle my fancy a bit. I'm sorry I haven't responded sooner, I was away for most of Saturday and now I've come down with the flu, so I haven't spent much time on the wiki this weekend. I skimmed the page and it looks like you are only a hop, skip, and a jump away from promoting it to GA status—good job! Your tenacity and dedication really shows in the article's quality. Cheers, The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 18:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

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Hi, I created the List of European Commissioners by nationality (as it is now known) and suggested the Romanian European Commissioner page be merged into it. You supported this idea, as did the creator of the Irish page. However the creator of the Bulgarian page has not. I would like to ask you to give your opinion on that and whether you would still support merging the Romanian page if the Bulgarian page still exists. Thanks for your time. -JLogan 16:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Leonard Orban

Hey, I was reading over the article again and comparing it to other articles about EU commissioners. In terms of coverage, it's the best of its kind, but you may want to include an IPA transcription of his name's pronunciation. Anyway, this is probably my last edit for tonight; I'll try to look over the article in more detail tomorrow. Cheers, The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 03:55, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, sorry I didn't get back to you; I was traveling for several weeks, and have to travel again next week (with limited internet access), so I'm forced to keep a light workload. Good luck with it ! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:38, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
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Extensive notes on fixing image problems left at Talk:Leonard Orban

I have left extensive notes on the fixes, as you requested at my talk page. I left these notes on the Talk:Leonard Orban page so all could see the recommendations and all can act upon them. You also expressed concern about having to wait too long if the article was fixed and then renominated for GA. If you let me know at my talk page that the article is fixed, and you have renominated it, I will review it ASAP and promote it if all fixes have been made. This should expedite the process for you. Good luck, and let me know if there is anything else I can do to help. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 03:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Turkish language nominated for GA

Hi, Michkalas. I tried to implement the changes you've been suggesting for the Turkish language article, and nominated it as a good article candidate. Hope you are doing fine. Sincerely, Atilim Gunes Baydin 04:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the list of sources and new advices. This really is the kind of input I like to receive. I hope others would also help. Best regards, Atilim Gunes Baydin 17:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

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