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Teahouse!

Hi Media-hound-thethird! Thanks for participating at the Teahouse, as you experience is so valuable for educating new editors about Wikipedia! I would like to encourage you to consider becoming a Teahouse host. You can learn a bit more about the Teahouse hosts here. They're the team behind the Teahouse and provide a lot of input about it's growth process. That link will also tell you about the mission behind the Hosts and what makes us different than other help spaces on Wikipedia - we say hi, we're friendly, and we're not chock full of jargon. I look forward to your continued participation. Thank you for all you do! Sarah (talk) 00:50, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on DJ Mell Starr

Hello, I did some editing to DJ Mell Starr's page with hopes that you would take a 2nd look and let me know how it looks now. thk u QTPepsi (talk) 02:15, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

A kitten for you for all of your kind words and help. I really do appreciate it. :)

Timeweaver (talk) 02:48, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey!

Hey Media-hound! I was wondering if you would be willing to glance over Battle of Verdun and tell me if it looks pretty good. I've submitted it for re-assessment to B-class, and I'm a little nervous about it, haha. Timeweaver (talk) 21:49, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Many thanks for the Teahouse barnstar. You have restored my faith in Wikipedia! Keep up the good work countering the systemic bias. Dahliarose (talk) 00:35, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Your article has been moved to AfC space

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Move

Can you please move your support from here to the actual thread here ? Pass a Method talk 19:47, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I copy-pasted it for you. Pass a Method talk 21:12, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Pass a Method You have moved that comment in breach off Community Standards Wikipedia:Refactoring. Kindly address your failures and have the matter fully reverted at your Earliest Convenience.Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 22:29, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I removed your vote, but please dont place anything below my notice here. It should remain empty. Pass a Method talk 23:00, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

:Further discussion about this here.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:11, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Pass a Method talk - the Rfc goes to the correct page - if you have specific instructions that comment should be made else where - then those instructions should be clear. If I had wished to make comment on another page I am more than capable of doing so. As It was I clearly did not wish to do so. I also note that you are canvassing in support of a certain view - and have even been doing it on Jimbo's page - kindly consider Wikipedia:Canvassing.

I also note MOST POINTEDLY that you have not apologised! Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 23:20, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Comment refactored Wikipedia:Refactoring as it was placed on page whilst the page was in edit mode - Page "preview" does not show such comments that have arrived once editing has commenced - thereby providing a misleading time line of communication and knowledge. Recommended Reading

Further discussion about this here.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:11, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Help me find secondary sources?

Hey, I think I've seen you say that you are good at finding sources. I would like to find some sources for Vincent Price (educator) that aren't affiliated with the school. I'll start looking through the DP, but I'm really looking for biographical information and I doubt that the newspaper will provide it. It is difficult to look through the web, because it is flooded with results for Vincent Price the actor. Ryan Vesey Review me! 03:43, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

HI there Ryan - posted the results and a few tips over on your talk page - hope they help Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 12:02, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I'll review them tonight. Ryan Vesey Review me! 15:24, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

G'day, thanks for your wise counsel based in international law over at WT:WikiProject Yugoslavia. Cheers! Peacemaker67 (talk) 01:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for your hard work on ICD

I see that you have gone to great lengths checking references on the ICD article; I just wanted to thank you for that, as I have spent some time on that article as well, and it has been a bit of an uphill battle. Also, well done for checking the rules and guidelines so carefully! SkaraB 21:10, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

SkaraB It's nothing personal! When I signed up for Rfc the one on ICD was one of the first that I believed I could contribute to. Rfc's are a very useful way in seeing how Wiki Land works - the multitude of issues goes from the Prosaic To the Highly Complex and even diplomatic. I may have even de-balkanised the Balkans! P^)

When looking at the Rfc for The Institute for Cultural Diplomacy I was very sceptical and looked at everything. I do assume WP:GOODFAITH but even when assuming that I do assess matters independently - my opinion is my own and stays my own, even if ""I"" change it. I learned a lot by having to check the wondrous ways of Wiki Land - and when it came to referencing and judging carefully against standards, it was also good practice.

That was why, when I had given me opinion on the Rfc I also edited and removed content that was date dependent ( Out of date and unverifiable ) as well as removing citations and links to sources that were no longer valid - and there was no trace in such places as The Internet archive/wayback machine or other similar resources.

I'm happy to dig for info and meet the Wiki standard of Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth - even if it sticks in My Craw sometimes - Take Deep-fried Mars bar - I know the the entry "The dish is said to have been invented in 1995 in the Haven Chip Bar (now the Carron) in Stonehaven, near Aberdeen on Scotland's northeast coast." is total Rubbish - It's Wrong in so many ways - I was eating deep fried confectionery, including mars bars, at least ten years earlier in Glasgow. .... can't find a source to verify it, but can find loads of people who agree and know that Wiki is wrong. That's the problem with drunken students waking up and wondering why they are covered in chip fat and chocolate - too confused to write about the issue for posterity. I have a personal mission to right that wrong! C'est la vie - options 3 & 4 apply. P^)
Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 22:40, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

• Not personal for me either - I have nothing to do with the organisation, like you I am interested in Wikipedia being a reliable source of information, not a billboard for private interests.

Will look out for the truth about fried Mars Bars! SkaraB 13:25, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Ditto about ICD. I'm also glad somebody else is taking an interest in the article and for trying to shepard things along toward some sort of conclusion (either deletion or an quality encyclopedic article). The article has certainly been a mess in the past and I'm really happy to see progress and interest from people who are plausibly not connected to the organization. —mako๛ 14:38, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Benjamin - my interest has been purely academic as it was basically the first RFC I felt I could make rational contribution to. I did not even know that Icd existed until being asked to take part in the Rfc. I am aware that others have been accused of WP:COI, and I have taken note of that but it has in no way reduced my opinion. I have been hunting for rational WP:NPOV sources about Icd, and they just don't exist. I would have cleaned up as you did today - but having asked for Afd I did not wish to be seen as acting against my own actions in asking for Afd. I'm sure that if I had cleaned up so much of the mess I would have been accused of some form of weird revenge, harassment and WP:BADFAITH. It has been amusing being told at the Afd, by the mysterious new editor, that I am wrong and can't read. I'm still in many ways getting used to the arcane ways round here. I have to also say that having looked at the full history of the Icd page it has been used as a shop front - and it's just a pity that it has taken so long for others to recognise and even consider acting. That was why I asked for rapid deletion, it seemed the rational course of action - for me it was G11. Unambiguous advertising or promotion. - others didn't agree. It has taken time to read and check the excessive references provided. I do wish that some would stop just googling, seeing a page of supposed content and saying Notable. When you have hundreds of minor hits due to self promotion and advertising it does skew perceptions. But then again - that's the Googlearchy for you. People buy what they see, rather than reading the small print and references. Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 18:32, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Well it's great to have you and I think you've handled things well. I think you're one of only two people who responded to the RfC, but you've been real helpful. And don't worry too much about the grife and drama from new mysterious newbie. Everyone else sees what you do and they'll take it into account. :) My first invovlement with this article was on the day I heard of ICD as well. —mako๛ 00:21, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Just chiming in... Thanks for all the hard work to you and to mako๛! SkaraB 14:18, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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Dear -SineBot - I'm Human! I WP:DGAF and I also believe in WP:IAR. So what is your excuse? Where is the rule that overrides WP:IAR and says that "Thou Shalt Be Spanked"?

Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 02:55, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I signed this time - thanks for the spanking! Where can I award you a Barnstar for being a technocratic monstrosity, that wastes peoples time - and drives new editors away? You are badly designed and operate improperly. How do I get you reprogrammed - or better still the technocrat who programmed you re-educate?

Spank me again! I may grow to like it! That, or I will WP:IAR

• arguing with a mindless bot wont get you a help. Whats more amusing is you signed the first time but again forgot the second time after you added some more text above . I agree it might be a bit disturbing to be reminded repeatedly by the bot, but this nagging will not occur after you have made a habit to sign, and dont forget. Even I was terrorized by sinebot in my early days but I later realized it was actually good. :) I hope you will agree why Wikipedia:Signatures are so important , regards --DℬigXray 20:44, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Dℬig - I did not forget to sign - I deliberately experimented to see if Sinebot has a brain. P^) It turns out not. As long as the signature appears in the post it is accepted ... unless I'm being hounded by Sinebot and it's waiting to pounce again. - I have also awarded Sinebot and "The tireless cybernetic contributor Barnstar" - and best of all, because it was done whilst the Wiki land servers were on the fritz, it got awarded Twice! Now that is Kismet! Sometimes railing against the machine has odd outcomes.
Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 21:36, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Google books shortcut

Greetings, Media Hound 3. I was happy to see you mention the shortcut to getting refs from Google books in a message at the Teahouse. Unfortunately the link isn't working for me. It might be my computer, however, as it is starting to give me problems and I think I'm going to have to give it to somebody to look at. I'll really miss it! But I wanted to let you know so you could double check it and make sure it's OK. I'm saving it for later, because it could really save me some time.

I'm so glad you're helping out at the Teahouse, you have a great combination of knowledge and the ability to handle questions in a simple, friendly manner. Thanks for the time you put in. Tlqk56 (talk) 16:17, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up - I've checked it out and it's working fine for me! http://reftag.appspot.com

I corrected the markup in the Teahouse reply, per Help:Link#External links. The piping format's different for external links. Hope you don't mind. -- Trevj (talk) 07:33, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Link

Thanks for your reply. For some reason that link works -- YEA! And I will definitely look into the other things you listed. It's nice not to get inundated with info when you're really new, but I agree it can be harder to find the helpful tips than it should be. When I think of the hours I spent trying to find where I'd messed up a ref when I first started! I like using the drop down menu in the editing window now. But it's still a lot of cut-and-paste, and I'm a sloppy typist who needs new glasses, so I still waste time with silly errors.

Can I ask you another question? I find I'm wasting time getting to the various sandboxes I've created. Right now I have to click on My Watchlist, then on View and Edit Watchlist, then scroll down and find the one I want and click on it. Is there a way to make a shortcut to them, maybe with tabs at the top of my user page or something? Or just a common sense way to get there quicker? Typing it in isn't really a solution, as I can't always remember what I've called them, and I'm still slow with the symbols. Thanks again.

And yes, for heaven's sake, let's not make it easy on the newbies. Reminds me of my grandmother getting a little upset at a friend of hers who didn't like having a new family from Mexico in her neighborhood, saying we should send them all back where they came from. Grandma reminded her her family wasn't native to eastern CO, either. Ask her if she was volunteering to go back to the then USSR. :) Tlqk56 (talk) 17:13, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Hey Tlqk56, I find the best way is for you to create an index in a subpage you will remember. Personally, I have a to do list that I can reach from the tabs on the top of my talk page. I also transclude the to do list onto the top of my talk page for easy reference (and it makes me more motivated to complete them). For the time being this shows you a list of all of your subpages and can be found by going to Special:PrefixIndex. Ryan Vesey Review me! 21:49, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

They say imitation...

...is the sincerest form of flattery. I copied your RFC box, played around with it just a bit, and have it on my User page to keep track of my article in progress. Thanks! Tlqk56 (talk) 02:14, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

... Grand Theft Wikipedia - That's the way to do it! P^)

Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 03:32, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

The barnstar made me laugh. Thanks! I used to go backpacking in the Rockies with my family, a couple of years ago (haha). It's nice to know there are still some mountains to climb. I'm silly-excited about DYK. I hope I'm online to see it when it goes up! Tlqk56 (talk) 03:35, 12 June 2012 (UTC)r

The Tea Leaf - Issue Four

Hi! Welcome to the fourth issue of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter for the Teahouse!

• Teahouse pilot wraps up after 13 weeks After being piloted on English Wikipedia starting in February, the Teahouse wrapped up its pilot period on May 27, 2012. We expect this is just the beginning for the Teahouse and hope the project will continue to grow in the months to come!

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ICD Article Recreated

I'm sorry to see that you seemed to burn out after the RfD for Institute for Cultural Diplomacy and haven't edited since then! I hope all is going well with you and that you've enjoyed your wikibreak!

I thought you might want to know that a new user recreated a page under The Institute for Cultural Diplomacy. I'm just marked it for speedy deletion might it be nice to bring some folks with experience with the previous discussion. —mako๛ 02:56, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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		Thanks for your contributions on Amnesty International media award winners-- keep up the good work! -- Khazar2 (talk) 22:52, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you for commenting at a RFC at Talk:Derby sex gang. I was hoping you could clarify why you favored narrowing down the 13-strong gang to just the 7 convicted of sex related offenses, despite sources asserting that they were all part of this gang. Ankh.Morpork 22:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Quoting BBC News from 24 November 2010 ""The undercover investigation by Derbyshire Police, Operation Retriever, was split into three trials which have run since February."" - so you have many attempting to synthesise what are three Trials which ran in the same court at the same time into one event! That it was necessary for legal process for evidence from all three to flow readily across the court room to assist the Jury and both defence and prosecution is not relevant. What is relevant is that there were three trails - and as such the gang motif and idea keeps being lazily transposed to all accused - all acquitted and anyone who was found guilty of any charge! That is wrong! It does not matter what a source says - if you know it is contaminated and suspect it should not be pushed! ... that's the Wiki View ... do you need the full legal view and also the Victims Rights View which for me is more compelling that all others! P^) --TTFN-- Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 23:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

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Okay, if it's gonna be like that...

Hey, Media-hound, since you're insistent about throwing the language of NLT at AtG, here's your talkpage request, from a totally uninvolved editor no less: your language on AnkhMorphok's page (particularly the sentence "If they continue a formal complaint should be made", coming immediately after references to the UK cyberbullying law) could easily be interpreted as a legal threat; please retract it per our policy on legal threats, which you apparently have already read. Thanks, Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 16:24, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

ping This needs an answer. I've asked others to check, and they agree that your comment could definitely be construed as a legal threat, with an intent to achieve a chilling effect. If you don't reply, I will move on to a block. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 22:35, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry If I'm not quick enough to meet the time demands of others - I've been getting on with life which evidently is seen as a obstacle to some and their Wiki focused existence! I have made clear to All including AndyTheGrump that he is not being made subject to legal threat - but it does seem he objects to other users being advised on where to find resources to address Cyber Harassment and Bullying. There is nowt as Queer as Folk and some will twist anything to create WP:DRAMA and make accusations. Ah well (BIG SIGH) - some of us just want to do Quality Editing... but other people and their WP:DRAMA just keeps getting in the way. I wish it could be stopped as it is very anti-diversity and keeps driving Quality Editors away. Wiki needs to retain editors not empower editor abuse and harassment and patterns of abuse which are running riot at this time. --TTFN-- Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 23:25, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

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Your edit above, and that on User talk:Writ Keeper are just the latest in a series of attacks on AndyTheGrump, see this ANI thread passim and especially this post, where you accuse ATG of dishonesty and bad faith and discreditable motives (over and over again), lynching, bullying and harassment; not to mention that old chestnut about 'driving editors away' (please specify, what editors are those?), etc etc. I don't know where you got the idea that these kinds of attacks are acceptable. If you do it again, I will block you from editing. Bishonen | talk 01:01, 25 January 2013 (UTC).

Bishonen - the moment you used the term old chestnut to dismiss the known Gender Bias in Wiki linked to the known GROSS SYSTEMIC BIAS that does exists, I was obliged to form the opinion that you are either very poorly informed on highly significant subjects, else you welcome the WP:BIAS and lack of quality editors across sexes in equality.

On the subject of Bullying- Abuse etc as has been such a feature hear recently, I advise you to look at some quality sources such as Electronic Communication Harassment Observation (ECHO) which illustrates the gender differences in perceptions around Bullying- Harassment and which do effect both the Sytemic Bias with women excluded and the Appalling levels of Editor retention. The revelations that 50% of people abused on-line have PTSD related symptomatology is significant. Who wants to be Subjected to repeated WP:DRAMA by an editor who turns Vandal and also put up with the PTSD aspect?

The work ECHO is also very recent, so may I recommend that you read it and leave the Old Chestnuts (Including The Implied Sexism) alone.

I am also struck by your interest and closeness to certain agents of WP:DRAMA and now VANDAL who have been running Riot so please read the "THIS". --TTFN-- Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 23:27, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Dear Bishonen II = On the Dismisal of reality by old Chestnut on Editor Retention and the causes of Editors Leaving - I bring to your attention

December 28, 2012 Vol 56, issue 12, Print ISSN: 0002-7642, Online ISSN: 1552-3381, doi:10.1177/0002764212469365 - Authors Aaron Halfaker, R. Stuart Geiger, Jonathan T. Morgan, and John Riedl: The Rise and Decline of an Open Collaboration System: How Wikipedia’s Reaction to Popularity Is Causing Its Decline (Full Text)

"Abstract:Open collaboration systems, such as Wikipedia, need to maintain a pool of volunteer contributors to remain relevant. Wikipedia was created through a tremendous number of contributions by millions of contributors. However, recent research has shown that the number of active contributors in Wikipedia has been declining steadily for years and suggests that a sharp decline in the retention of newcomers is the cause. This article presents data that show how several changes the Wikipedia community made to manage quality and consistency in the face of a massive growth in participation have ironically crippled the very growth they were designed to manage. Specifically, the restrictiveness of the encyclopedia’s primary quality control mechanism and the algorithmic tools used to reject contributions are implicated as key causes of decreased newcomer retention. Furthermore, the community’s formal mechanisms for norm articulation are shown to have calcified against changes—especially changes proposed by newer editors."

Given that so much research shows that there are gender differences in perception of Threat arising form on-line conduct which the person receiving it sees as Physical Threat, the calcification and even Fossilisation of view and attitude within Wikipedia to attitudes and norms which do not address such reality is damaging - and it does have a massive affected upon editor retention and simply acts to Promote Systemic Bias

"Conclusion: Wikipedia has changed from the encyclopedia that anyone can edit to the encyclopedia that anyone who understands the norms, socializes himself or herself, dodges the impersonal wall of semi-automated rejection, and still wants to voluntarily contribute his or her time and energy can edit."

Calcified against also reads a fossilised - indicating just how there are known issues with an established group within Wiki (especially at Admin level) determinedly resisting change by any means - and with issue of use of systems through false manufactured consensus to protect the poorly operating Technocracy. I would say more and provide more references but I know how many just see that as an excuse and type Wall Of Text as a Thought-terminating Cliché to Derail. If you have valid sources to the issue of Old Chestnuts and other Thought-terminating Cliché as appropriate within Wiki as a response to valid independent sources, refreenced, cited and used with NPOV I will of course asses them fully.--TTFN-- Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 15:23, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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You were warned repeated (here and on ANI) against continuing your personal attacks on other editors. You continued [1]. So now you are blocked. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:13, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

And, on investigating your edit history a bit further, and seeing that there have been similar serious cases of you derailing and disrupting discussions, and that it's obviously a pervasive and deep-rooted problem with you, I have lengthened the block to something much more radical. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:52, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

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Sobering Finding from Electronic Communication Harassment Observation (ECHO)

50% of people subjected to On-line abuse-harrasmnt suffer PTSD related symptomatology.

This is stated and the sources provided to ensure that editor or admin has that fact in mind as they read details of abuse and bullying here in Wiki laid out below.

Also Meet AndyTheGrumpyVandal - 07:07, January 25, 2013 and [- Quite detailed concerns about his established patterns of abuse - including Homophobia, Transphobia and long term established history of personal attacks and blocks]

Could this Highly Questionable Block kindly be reviewed in light of the ongoing WP:DRAMA and history of DRAMA that the editor AndyTheGrump has been linked to.

1.) His activity at ANI in making misleading claims about BLP Violation which he shared blame for whilst he used it to attack anther editor. Diffs

1 - Smokes Screens Do Not Aide Clarity Or Reality

2 - Not Answering the Questions and Blowing More Smoke does not work ! Kindly address the direct questions already asked.

3 - Again I advise that you stop blowing smoke and moderate your tone and language about others. It's making you look bad.

4 - I see that you have 2nd time stated I have accused you of taking Drugs. Can I have a reference to show me when and how. Other readers are interested too!

5 - Again - Kindly stop your misconduct and refrain from behaviour which is Bullying and Harassing.

It is interesting that in asking for much misconduct - misdirection - mendacity and twisting of wiki I am supposedly derailing in the view of AndyTheGrump ?

It is fascinating that he kept expanding the ANI entries under the heading [A gross breach of WP:BLP at the 'Derby sex gang' article.] - To which he has added FOUR Subheadings and flooded the whole subject with yet more layers of misdirection, false and constructed claims all of which waste time and effort in having to address - and please not It Is NOt Possible To Prove The Negative.

So he keeps adding to his misdirection - attempt to hide the questions of his failed conduct and confuse readers who were unwary of his patterns of misconduct - or even empower sympathetic ones to cherry pick. YET more Smoke An Mirrors. He evidently loves the attention it gains him.

I fear that Fut.Perf. has been happily misdirected by the ongoing misuse and manipulation of Wiki systems and content by AndyTheGrump - as has also been revealed as part of his BLOCK which is featuring on ANI.

I think that it needs to be reassessed - especially as the editor Fut.Perf. has been focusing upon the ongoing claims of AndyTheGrump under only a subheading created to claim that my responses and requests above were derailing so as to further AndyTheGrump's pattern of misdirection and attack upon editors who are not gulled or beguiled by his (now revealed) well developed antics.

I remain concerned that manipulation of content in this way is yet again being used to cause editors(Especially Admns) to see what Manipulators wish and not the bigger picture. It is a known pattern of exploitation of person/interface in the areas of Cyber Abuse-Harrassmnt-Bulying, and indicates that unwary editors(Especially Admns) are being made agents of the abusers.

I also note that AndyTheGrump has been happy to state his intent to vandalise - his seeking to support around mental health after he has been bocked (Feigned Victimhood - 3rd stage of serial bully defence - Avoiding acceptance of responsibility - denial, counterattack and feigning victimhood )

He has had to be blocked because of his activity and the discussion ANI reveals that he has a well established history of WP:DRAMA and misconduct of which this last morass is just the latests example. I personally ho0pe he received a permanent ban so that other Editors can be free from his machinations, mendacity and peculiar needs to falsity reality around his own needs. #

I would also welcome the opportunity to get on with the work I was doing - such as Editing the page which AndyTheGrump started all the WP:DRAMA over - Derby sex gang and which AndyTheGrump has so studiously ignored since his aim of WP:DRAMA has been achieved. As I have made clear from 19:26, 23 January under "This Article Needs A Full Overhall & Line By Line Verification.", my focus has been on addressing error and improving content - so if you don't mind I'd like to get back to that so that the Highly questionable content that still remains is improved and risk of further abuse and WP:DRAMA removed.

Further to that I would welcome the opportunity to get back to my work in getting these pages finished and published - inspite of other's need for WP:DRAMA and being a central focus in their own Wiki Realm.

and some actually question why quality editors walk away never to return when these Shenanigans by Abusive and Bullying Editors are allowed to Run Riot... and 50% of people abused that way end up suffering PTSD related symptoms.

If I am to not be unblocked please let me know why so that I can advise my contacts via amnesty that they will need to find another Wikipedian who is willing to finish the work and risk the ever present WP:DRAMA, time wasting, fatigue and all the other elements of the Serial Bullies art.....

Amnesty International UK Media Awards

• Documentary
• Digital Media
• Gaby Rado Memorial Award
• Global Award for Human Rights Journalism
• International TV and Radio
• Magazines: Consumer
• Magazines: Newspaper supplements
• National Newspapers
• Nations and Regions
• Photojournalism
• Radio
• Special Award for Human Rights Journalism Under Threat
• Television News

Students

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Years

• 1992 * 1993 * 1994 * 1995 * 1996 * 1997 * 1998 * 1999

• 2000 * 2001 * 2002 * 2003 * 2004 * 2005 * 2006 * 2007 * 2008 * 2009 * 2010

• 2011 * 2012

--TTFN-- Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 23:03, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

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See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Possible legal threat at User talk:Media-hound- thethird. Obviously, as you are blocked, you will not be able to reply directly. If you wish to respond, I suggest you post any message here, and ask for it to be copied over - you can use Template:Help me to ensure this is responded to. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:44, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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As you continue to use your talk page inappropriately whilst blocked; requesting action by administrators against other editors, making thinly-veiled legal threats (after being explicitly warned about the use of such language) etc. I have revoked your talk page access. Once your block has expired, you are welcome to make positive contributions.

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Due to the massive battleground mentality you have exhibited, I have just extended your block to indefinite. As Basalisk has already pointed out, if you wish to contest it, please use the unblock ticket request system, or contact the ban appeals sub-committee. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 19:21, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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Secret History (TV series)‎

I have reverted your de-linking of 15 Janaury. As is clearly stated at the top of the episode list, the links in each title are to the subject of the programme. There are therefore no "bad and wrong links" as you claimed. Nick Cooper (talk) 11:09, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

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Hi MediaHound, thought the above might interest you :-) SkaraB 15:09, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

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