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Your submission at Articles for creation: Needy Foundation (November 26)
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Hello, Md Shahedul Alam Khan!
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- @Aviram7 After you informed me, I immediately remove sentences. Thanks for suggesting! Happy editing Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 05:34, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Needy Foundation (November 29)
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Managing a conflict of interest
[edit] Hello, Md Shahedul Alam Khan. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:Needy Foundation, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
- avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
- propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template);
- disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
- avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
- do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.
In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Jeraxmoira (talk) 07:41, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira Needy Foundation is a well-known voluntary organization in our Chittagong district. This organization conducts voluntary social welfare activities throughout the year. So, I have been trying to know about this organization since long. Finally, after collecting various data, I decided to write an article about the organization. I have no personal conflict of interest in making this article, but my article may be useful for those who are interested in knowing about this organization. Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 15:16, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Are you in any way related to Md Alam Khan? And can you tell me what Md stands for in your username? Jeraxmoira (talk) 18:08, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira Sir, There is no personal conflict of interest with the organization founder Md Alam Khan in writing the Draft. And Most of the Muslims in Bangladesh use Md( This is short form of Muhammad) before their name. Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 18:46, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- You haven't answered the question yet. Do you know Md Alam Khan personally or professionally? Jeraxmoira (talk) 18:52, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira I don't have any involvement with Md Alam Khan to personally. While collecting various information about the organization, I came to know that he is the founder of this organization. Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 19:09, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- You haven't answered the question yet. Do you know Md Alam Khan personally or professionally? Jeraxmoira (talk) 18:52, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira Sir, There is no personal conflict of interest with the organization founder Md Alam Khan in writing the Draft. And Most of the Muslims in Bangladesh use Md( This is short form of Muhammad) before their name. Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 18:46, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Are you in any way related to Md Alam Khan? And can you tell me what Md stands for in your username? Jeraxmoira (talk) 18:08, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Needy Foundation (December 6)
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- @EggRoll97 I submitted Draft:Needy Foundation for article. The draft declined on 26 November of 2023 by Mr. @Ca showing "This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article" and "This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia".
- The draft I resubmitted after improving as per the direction of Mr. @Ca on 29 November of 2023. The draft declined again on same date by Mr. @Ca showing "This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia" and "Photos taken by the organization themselves are not independent sources".
- The draft I resubmitted again after improving the draft as per the direction of Mr. @Ca . The draft declined again on 29 November of 2023 by Mr. @GoingBatty showing "This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article".
- The draft I resubmitted after improving as per the direction of Mr. @GoingBatty . The draft declined again 06 December 0f 2023 by Mr. @EggRoll97 showing above mentioned same cause "This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia". He also showing me to resolve reviewer's comments.
- However, I resolved and rectified all mistake previously and also resolved all comments of reviewer at the same time. Now, I want to know that, which sentences are under advertisement? How to I resolve the matte Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 05:09, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Md Shahedul Alam Khan. Please see WP:ORGCRITE to know the primary criteria for your draft to get accepted. Let's take a look at your sources now.
- Source 1 - Is a government page that has the guidelines for social welfare organizations in Bangaladesh. It is not about your organization.
- Source 2 - On the URL, it says special report. Likewise, the author of the article reads "own reporter".
- Source 3 - Is an image which reports about the Inauguration of Jumma masjid and has a trivial mention of the subject you are writing about.
- Source 4 - Is the same as above
- Source 5 - Is about Jumma Masjid and has a passing mention of Needy foundation.
- Source 6 - Passing mention.
- Source 7 - Passing mention.
- Source 8 - Looks like a routine PR coverage. (No significant coverage)
- Source 9 - PR (No significant coverage)
- Source 10 - Same as above (No significant coverage)
- Apart from the above, are you the 'Shahedul' that is mentoined on source 5 [1]? Jeraxmoira (talk) 05:47, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- I will echo the above, it's a pretty good output of what I was going to say anyways. EggRoll97 (talk) 05:57, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Jeraxmoira. Please see,
- Source 1- list of registered voluntary organization's file in who is Needy Foundation name available under Chattogram district by Department of Social Services
- Source 2- An article by a reported by online news paper.
- Source 3- a news about Masjid & Wudu place construction by Needy Foundation
- Source 4- a news activity of Needy Foundation
- Source 5- a news activity of Needy Foundation
- Source 6- a news activity of Needy Foundation
- Source 7- a news about activities of Needy Foundation
- Source 8- in this news mentioned name of Needy Foundation
- Source 9- a news about emergency relief program of Needy Foundation
- Source 10- a news about emergency relief program of Needy Foundation
- Source 11- a news about Iftar and Suhur program of Needy Foundation
- Source 12- a news about Iftar and Suhur program of Needy Foundation
- I'm Md Shahedul Alam Khan but I'm not Shahedul. Shahedul is a different person involved with Needy Foundation. But i am Md Shahedul Alam Khan not involved with Needy Foundation. I already declared to your talk page i have no COI with this organization. Please keep consider it. I already rectified the references in draft for your kind information and necessary action.
- Now can I resubmit the draft again draft:Needy Foundation ? Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 07:33, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira @EggRoll97 all references I have used from independent, reliable, published sources which represent wikipedia:Neutral point of view Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 07:58, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- I am not sure if you have checked WP:ORGCRITE yet. It clearly states that the source should
Contain significant coverage addressing the subject of the article directly and in depth.
. - Having the subject's name on registered voluntary organization's file has no value to the subject's notability.
- To make it easier for you, please go through WP:THREE and share 3 of your best sources here to show notability. Jeraxmoira (talk) 08:29, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira Can I use the following 4 references? After rectifying the reference section, Can I resubmit the draft again? waiting for your valuable response. sorry for troubling
- 1. https://amaderorthoneeti.com/new/2023/12/02/371968/
- 2. https://epurbodesh.com/m/72278/64e11e03f2ffc
- 3. https://dailypurbodesh.com/%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8B%E0%A7%9F%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%BE-%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A3%E0%A6%AB%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%B2%E0%A7%80-%E0%A6%93-%E0%A6%9A%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A6%E0%A6%A8/
- 4. https://adhikar24.com/archives/3424 Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 09:11, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Source 1 reads like a sponsored post. I have never seen a news outlet covering an org's activities throughout the year and summarizing it to make an article. Source 2,3 and 4 are not independent as it has the interview of the founder and does not have significant coverage as well. But, again this is my assessment. You can try re-submitting it but I don't think it will pass the AfC review. Jeraxmoira (talk) 09:54, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira Source 1 is a complete investigative report of Needy Foundation by a journalist. Source 2,3 & 4 completely independent news of Needy Foundation activities. There is a no interview of the founder in those news. Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 10:10, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Last paragraph on source 3 translates to
Chairman of Neddi Foundation. Alam Khan said, NEET Foundation has been providing various kinds of help to the poor and destitute people of the country for a long time. In the first phase of this Ramzan, iftar items have been distributed on behalf of Needi Foundation to 5' poor fasting families of three upazilas. For the rest of Ramadan, distribution of Iftar items will continue among the common people.
Jeraxmoira (talk) 10:15, 7 December 2023 (UTC)- @Jeraxmoira The statement was delivered in that meeting of beneficiaries by the chairman of Needy Foundation. That was not any interview. There is an interview has question and answer. But there was no question in that meeting from any journalist. Maybe you translate the above paragraph from Google translate but your translation was wrong. Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 10:35, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I translated it from google and I have phrased it wrong, its not an interview. As explained above, it is a statement released to the press right? Anyways, apart from source #1 none of them have significant coverage. How do you know source 1 is an investigative report? is it mentioned on the article? Jeraxmoira (talk) 10:53, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira There is no press release in any references in this draft. Press release is not independent source. My all references under independent sources like news of reporter and own correspondent (News Office) etc. Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 11:06, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- As I said before, these are just my assessment. You are free to resubmit it again. Cheers <3 Jeraxmoira (talk) 11:10, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira Sir, please see the draft. now can I submit it again? Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 11:14, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- I have explained my assessment already. If I was a reviewer, I would not approve it. But I am not a AfC reviewer and other editors may feel different about the draft. If you need further help, kindly ask your questions at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. Jeraxmoira (talk) 11:39, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira Sir, please see the draft. now can I submit it again? Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 11:14, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- As I said before, these are just my assessment. You are free to resubmit it again. Cheers <3 Jeraxmoira (talk) 11:10, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira There is no press release in any references in this draft. Press release is not independent source. My all references under independent sources like news of reporter and own correspondent (News Office) etc. Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 11:06, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I translated it from google and I have phrased it wrong, its not an interview. As explained above, it is a statement released to the press right? Anyways, apart from source #1 none of them have significant coverage. How do you know source 1 is an investigative report? is it mentioned on the article? Jeraxmoira (talk) 10:53, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira The statement was delivered in that meeting of beneficiaries by the chairman of Needy Foundation. That was not any interview. There is an interview has question and answer. But there was no question in that meeting from any journalist. Maybe you translate the above paragraph from Google translate but your translation was wrong. Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 10:35, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Last paragraph on source 3 translates to
- @Jeraxmoira Source 1 is a complete investigative report of Needy Foundation by a journalist. Source 2,3 & 4 completely independent news of Needy Foundation activities. There is a no interview of the founder in those news. Md Shahedul Alam Khan (talk) 10:10, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Source 1 reads like a sponsored post. I have never seen a news outlet covering an org's activities throughout the year and summarizing it to make an article. Source 2,3 and 4 are not independent as it has the interview of the founder and does not have significant coverage as well. But, again this is my assessment. You can try re-submitting it but I don't think it will pass the AfC review. Jeraxmoira (talk) 09:54, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- I am not sure if you have checked WP:ORGCRITE yet. It clearly states that the source should
- Hi Md Shahedul Alam Khan. Please see WP:ORGCRITE to know the primary criteria for your draft to get accepted. Let's take a look at your sources now.
Your submission at Articles for creation: Needy Foundation (December 12)
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