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April 2024
Hi. Please don't use edit summary to make your argument regarding an issue. Instead, it's healthier to initiate a talk page conversation. Thumbs only topped the Bubbling Hot 100, not Dance Club Songs like other songs did. It's simpler and direct to frame a sentence about songs in the lead when they all share a similar record/position, such as topping the Dance Club chart. Therefore, it's more concise to include only the singles that topped that chart and not all of her singles. Regards. ℛonherry☘ 12:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. Thanks for getting in touch. I would appreciate it if you could stop being passive aggressive in your edit summaries saying for example: "Your reason 'it's so successful tho'" or "Because that's your personal opinion [...]". Where have I inserted my personal opinions? You are assuming I have violated WP:NPOV yet Wikipedia's "4th pillar" is to Assume good faith. You might not be intending to be passive aggressive but that is how I feel.
- As for the issue on hand: Thumbs is one of Carpenter's most successful songs so I do not see an issue with mentioning it considering it DID top a chart - Bubbling Under Hot 100 chart - and was her highest entry on the chart until 2021. Saying which chart seems superfluous as its not the Hot 100 (aka the main US chart) and therefore since Thumbs also went number one, its sensible to mention it at least once. It is also her most watched music video and one of her most streamed songs so it's not an unknown song. Maxwell King123321 13:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm going to address only the issue at hand here. See, that's the thing, you want to include Thumbs because you just want it to be included. The thought process should be "Three of Carpenter's songs have topped the Dance chart. What are those? Ah yes, Almost Love, Sue Me and Alien." It shouldn't be "Oh, Thumbs isn't included. How can I try to include it??". Your approach to choosing what stays and not stays in the lead should be objective, not subjective. The Bubbling chart is neither a genre chart nor a significant chart. Unless, Thumbs has achieved a significant record, like topping a credible chart or achieving a career-high entry for Carpenter on a chart, it can't be on the lead. You claimed Thumbs is her most watched music video. If so, that's a good reason to includ Thumbs in the lead. Do you have a reliable secondary source to support that apart from mere views on YouTube? ℛonherry☘ 21:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- You cannot say that this is the only issue at hand here because you know what you are doing and how you are acting towards me and other editors. Also, how can you make the assumption that I "want to include Thumbs because you just want it to be included"? Where have I said that?
- Anyway, I will not be replying further. I thought YOU could be civil but alas you cannot. Therefore, you can once again do whatever you want with the page I am removing it from my watchlist. Please deal with your WP:OWN issues. You quite frankly are a rude person. Maxwell King123321 02:33, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm going to address only the issue at hand here. See, that's the thing, you want to include Thumbs because you just want it to be included. The thought process should be "Three of Carpenter's songs have topped the Dance chart. What are those? Ah yes, Almost Love, Sue Me and Alien." It shouldn't be "Oh, Thumbs isn't included. How can I try to include it??". Your approach to choosing what stays and not stays in the lead should be objective, not subjective. The Bubbling chart is neither a genre chart nor a significant chart. Unless, Thumbs has achieved a significant record, like topping a credible chart or achieving a career-high entry for Carpenter on a chart, it can't be on the lead. You claimed Thumbs is her most watched music video. If so, that's a good reason to includ Thumbs in the lead. Do you have a reliable secondary source to support that apart from mere views on YouTube? ℛonherry☘ 21:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)