User talk:Matanos112233
Hey there! Saw your response. The area in the times of Jesus was vastly known as Judea & Samaria, not Palestine or Palaestina (Roman name) (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Judea).
According to https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Judea, "The name Judea is a Greek and Roman adaptation of the name "Judah", which originally encompassed the territory of the Israelite tribe of that name and later of the ancient Kingdom of Judah. Nimrud Tablet K.3751, dated c.733 BCE, is the earliest known record of the name Judah (written in Assyrian cuneiform as Yaudaya or KUR.ia-ú-da-a-a).
Judea was sometimes used as the name for the entire region, including parts beyond the river Jordan.[6] In 200 CE Sextus Julius Africanus, cited by Eusebius (Church History 1.7.14), described "Nazara" (Nazareth) as a village in Judea"
Moreover, until 1968 people did not identify themselves as Palestinian; One of many evidence that clarify that is the UN partition plan, (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine#/media/File:UN_Palestine_Partition_Versions_1947.jpg) Which describes the two states as Jewish and Arab, and not Jewish and Palestinian.
The article at speak is named "List of Palestinians" (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/List_of_Palestinians), which leads the reader to think that Jesus, was in fact, Palestinian.
The name Palestinian, that indicates of course, nationality, suggests that he was a citizen of the Kingdom of Palestine (which never existed) or the State of Palestine (which was formed in 1988), which he was not. It is widely known that Jesus was a Jew, that lived in Judea, born in Bethlehem, which was part of the Judean Kingdom.
According to the WikiPedia article of "Bethlehem": "Archaeological confirmation of Bethlehem as a city in the Kingdom of Judah was uncovered in 2012 at the archaeological dig at the City of David in the form of a bulla (seal impression in dried clay) in ancient Hebrew script that reads "From the town of Bethlehem to the King," indicating that it was used to seal the string closing a shipment of grain, wine, or other goods sent as a tax payment in the 8th or 7th century BCE."
Hope that clears the issue, Best regards
- Hi, to clarify a few points:
- The name Judea was used, as was the name Palestine. Today one can be a Montrealer, a Quebecois and a Canadian all at the same time. Jesus was a Nazarene, a Judean and a Palestinian
- The Timeline of the name "Palestine" article shows that the name was used around Jesus's lifetime, by writers such as Ovid, Pomponius Mela and Philo
- In modern history, the Palestinians article shows that the term was used locally since at least 1898.
- The term "Arab" as an ethnic term (rather than a term for people who spoke the language) is also a late 19th century invention, as are most other "ethnicities" in use in the world today. I suggest you read up on the history of nationalism if you want to understand this better.
- The name Palestinian suggests that a person comes from Palestine (region). That is what the intro to the List of Palestinians article says
- There are many many many reputable sources that refer to Jesus as Palestinian
- I hope that you also argue semantics with people who call Confucius "Chinese", Buddha "Indian", Zoroaster "Persian" or Moses "Jewish".
- Oncenawhile (talk) 18:10, 22 May 2017 (UTC)