User talk:Masem/draft

Etiquette

Masem, I have just got wind of this page, and not keeping me informed is just not fair play. Do you wish to discuss that matter at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts? --Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 15:38, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a draft, I haven't put it at RFC/U, so there's no point until that happens to inform you of this; drafting these in userspace is part of the process. And the behavior given is far far far beyond Wikiquette. --MASEM (t) 15:42, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lets go to Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts and discuss this issue. --Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 15:44, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, that's not the place for it, because there is little issue about civility here - you haven't crossed any lines there. This is nearly ARBCOM territory, but RFC/U is the better venue to start at. --MASEM (t) 15:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For your information, I have raised the issue at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment#Being informed about draft RfC's on User Conduct as you suggest. In the meantime I forgive you for not giving me the courtesy for not informing me about the existence of this page. --Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 10:38, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is this draft still alive, just waiting in ambush, or abandoned? Then it should be better marked as such or just deleted. East of Borschov 15:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is still alive, but as best I can tell, there's no requirement to mark it as such nor any way to mark it as such. --MASEM (t)

De jure et de facto

I think the opening statement of this draft RFC marks is its achilles heel. The statement that "Gavin.collins has become extremely difficult to work with as a participant in Wikipedia policy and guideline discussionsdue to a very entrenched view on several concepts particularly a strong commitment to notability" makes an interest point in case, but the real fact of the matter is that you face an editor who holds beliefs as strong as your own, except that they in opposition, a characteristic that you find disagreeable. I suggest we agree to disagree, but if you want to work through this process via an RFC, that is entirely up to you. --Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 10:50, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]