User talk:Mary OMalley

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Mary OMalley, good luck, and have fun. Aboutmovies (talk) 00:11, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Alter Wiener, Holocaust Survivor (October 6)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Tokyogirl79 was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This needs substantial editing to make it fit WP:NPOV. This is written like it's set up to promote Wiener. He's amazing for surviving, but the article still needs to be neutrally written. What I'd recommend offhand is that you remove the section "A Senseless Deprivation Due to My Faith and Fate" and "Letters of Response". The first section is at worst a WP:COPYVIO and at best it gives a lot of WP:UNDUE weight to this.

You should also try to condense sections - there's a lot of minute detail throughout the article that could be summarized better. Since a lot of this contains various WP:PUFFERY terms and phrases, this is something you can do while you re-write the article. An example of what I mean is the following section:

Today, Alter shares his life story with audiences of all ages in middle and high schools, universities, colleges, churches, synagogues, prisons, and civic book clubs. His autobiography, From a Name to a Number, was published in 2007. A children’s illustrated book, Gifts From an Enemy, authored by Trudy Ludwig recounts Alter Weiner’s experience while imprisoned at Gross Masselwitz.

Instead of that, you can try something like this:

Alter has spoken publicly at many venues such as churches, synagogues, and universities, and in 2007 he published his autobiography From a Name to a Number. In 2014 author Trudy Ludwig published a children's illustrated book, Gifts From an Enemy, based on Weiner's experiences as a prisoner at Gross Masselwitz.

This gets the point across, but a little more succinctly. I will say, however, that the information about him being a public speaker could also be handled by putting this in the lead sentence as follows:

Abraham “Alter” Wiener (born 1926) is a Holocaust survivor, author, and public speaker.

This would establish that he has worked as an author and public speaker, which would mean that you don't have to re-establish his speaking until far later on in the article in a section about his current professional life. One thing to remember is that you don't need to list every venue he's ever appeared at - it's generally assumed that the average speaker will appear at a wide variety of locations, especially if they're speaking on anything related to religion or WWII.

I highly recommend that you look into getting help at the WP:TEAHOUSE with this. If this is a class assignment, so I'd also like to recommend that you read over this, which goes over the difference between academic papers and Wikipedia articles. Now if you're someone who was hired or otherwise asked to create the article by Mr. Wiener or his publisher, make sure that you read over the conflict of interest guidelines.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 10:18, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Mary OMalley, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 10:18, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft Draft:Alter Wiener

I just wanted to let you know that I postponed the G13 deletion of Draft:Alter Wiener as it might have potential. Please keep in mind that if a draft is not edited for a 6 month period, it will be eligible for G13 (abandoned draft) deletion.

TheSandDoctor (talk) 21:44, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Alter Wiener, Holocaust Survivor (May 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

This appears to be a duplicate of another submission, Alter Wiener, which is also waiting to be reviewed. To save time we will consider the other submission and not this one.

The comment the reviewer left was:

If the draft is accepted, it should be accepted as Alter Wiener without qualification, so make any edits to Draft: Alter Wiener. This draft and the other version still have tone issues.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Alter Wiener, Holocaust Survivor and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Robert McClenon (talk) 02:33, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tips for your drafts

Hi there, I wanted to offer a couple of tips to help with your draft:

Pick a draft and work on that one, it'll get confusing otherwise. Let me know which one you choose and we can delete the other one.
Remove any content not cited to a reliable source (Wikipedia isn't a reliable source, nor are blogs like the Wordpress source, nor is his own autobiography), this type of content detracts from the rest of the article more than you think.
His autobiography is a primary source. Wikipedia is a tertiary source and summarizes what reliable, secondary sources say. One or two small bits from his autobiography are OK as quotes, but the article should mainly be summarized from secondary sources. In a nutshell, we're looking for content summarized from journalistic sources that aren't directly connected to him.
Find at least one or two more reliable sources and summarize some more meaningful content from them.
Remember that less is more, be succinct in summarizing the sources. It's perfectly OK if the article is short, if your references are good. I know you have a lot to say and that Mr. Wiener
I think this has some potential, but it's not quite there yet.

I hope this helps. I know you've worked hard on this for quite a while, I'd like to see it bear fruit. I'll try to keep an eye on this and see if I can't help further, but I'm pretty busy. Best wishes! Waggie (talk) 01:42, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Alter Wiener concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Alter Wiener, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

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Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:30, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Alter Wiener

Hello, Mary OMalley. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Alter Wiener".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Legacypac (talk) 09:23, 1 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Alter Wiener, Holocaust Survivor concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Alter Wiener, Holocaust Survivor, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

You may request Userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available at WP:REFUND/G13.

Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:34, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]