User talk:Martinschmit

Welcome!

Hello, Martinschmit, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, like Martin Schmit, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted (if it hasn't already).

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:

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Speedy deletion of Martin Schmit

A tag has been placed on Martin Schmit requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the article or have a copy emailed to you. Vianello (talk) 01:59, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

General info - and also, Twinkle!

Twinkle, first off, is an extremely handy little editing tool for Wikipedia that runs in Firefox or Opera. You can get information on it and how to enable it for yourself at WP:TWINKLE. Anyway, concerning your page, notability is one of the foremost questions of any Wikipedia article. Why is the subject relevant? It's one of the foremost issues of an article, and without it, one is essentially meaningless. An article on a non-notable subject really has no place here. If you aren't prepared to demonstrate that the person covered is relevant by the criteria given in WP:BIO, either the article isn't ready to be submitted, or it possibly may never be. If you have any evidence that this subject meets any of these criteria, feel free to mention it on the article's talk page. - Vianello (talk) 02:26, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can edit it just fine. If not, tell me why it's notable, and I'll be glad to post it in your stead. - Vianello (talk) 02:35, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK. well i found out how to edit the talk page. it's my first page and i think it would be nice to get this page up. this person was in a movie. people like mark schiff have pages and i've never even heard of the guy. he even has a notability issue on his. just give it time. it will not be a problem.

If you can't even tell me exactly what notability criterion this person meets, not even all the time in the world will ever make the page workable. And the Mark Schiff page very possibly ought to be deleted, and in fact may soon be, so that's a pretty poor choice of example. - Vianello (talk) 02:50, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What I see as not notable are pages that cannot demonstrate meeting any notability criteria, especially when their authors cannot even explain how they do. When I encounter these pages, I flag them. The matter is quite simple and for my part, if you have nothing further to add, also concluded. We'll simply see what others have to say on the topic. - Vianello (talk) 03:00, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have the authority to flag pages? It's rather puzzling how I was able to do it then. And if the page provided no evidence of notability, yes, I would indeed flag it as such, as it does not require knowledge of the subject to recognize the difference between a page that has been adequately sourced and one that has not. Since you yourself do not quite seem to be aware of or able to explain why this topic is notable, I think it makes two of us. If you require any assistance or have any non-rhetorical questions though, drop me a line. - Vianello (talk) 03:06, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A Chicago comedian of which apparently neither of us has any knowledge, since you still can't explain the notability. I'm sorry if you find my answers unsatisfactory, but I've addressed every question and claim you've raised to the best of my knowledge. Once again, you're welcome to raise your points on the article's talk page and see what the administrata have to say about it when they come around. If it goes under, you're 100% welcome to give it another shot when you have some reliable sources to cite. I can definitely admire your tenacity and civility through this process, by the by. - Vianello (talk) 03:17, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's kind of a moot point, since the article's retention or deletion isn't up to me. I was mainly using that as a point of rhetoric. But things that meet the criteria of WP:Notability and WP:BIO are a good angle. It'd be a better call to explain them on the article's talk page than to me, though. - Vianello (talk) 03:44, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

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