User talk:Magnolia677/Archive 18
Rendition flights
[edit]Hello Magnolia, thanks for your thoughtful message regarding my edits about rendition flights. I share your commitment to ensuring information on Wikipedia is factual and well well-sourced. The source of the information on rendition operations in North Carolina is in fact a blue ribbon panel led by the Chief of Staff of Colin Powell. Though it isn't a government panel, it has conducted its inquiry with public hearings and full transparency. Its findings have been covered by state media (see this opinion piece in The News & Observer: https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/article224764120.html) and national media such as the Associated Press (see https://apnews.com/b2e63b2104494d158eefde5a644afb0f). The subject has also been covered by the documentary production company led by Laura Poitras, who won an Academy Award for her documentary on Edward Snowden. Perhaps we can agree to cite issue on subject pages and leave it off the North Carolina page -- I agree my initial language was overstated. Thanks for your thoughts! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vav217 (talk • contribs) 01:13, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Vav217: Thank you for writing. The allegations made in the report are powerful, and should be supported by a reliable secondary source. I'm not saying the report isn't true; just that Wikipedia needs reliable sources. Magnolia677 (talk) 01:19, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Miami-Dade Public Library edit
[edit]Thank you for the reply. I am not a stakeholder for the Miami Dade Public Library. I was just trying to complete a homework assignment and had no idea that by entering that information which is also public, I was violating Wikipedia's laws. The assignment in which this was for was basically to edit information in Wikipedia with truthful information. I just assumed that since there was a section on "Donation" in the Wiki page, that I might go a little further to let others know if they wanted to donate, where they can actually go and how they can actually donate. I apologize profusely and know now not to enter any information that may seem like I'm asking for money. Again, this was only for a class project. I can provide you with information to prove this.
Dufresnel (talk) 22:05, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Elmbank, Ontario
[edit]I am copy-editing the article on Elmbank, Ontario. Please revert my mistakes, I know nothing about this ghost town. Thank you, CluelessEditoroverhere (talk) 18:18, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @CluelessEditoroverhere: Nice work. Many of the sources I used are dead now, but I think the properties were in fact "expropriated", but the readers will figure that out. Thanks for your effort. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 19:30, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Magnolia677: The article was well-written, your article creation is great. 340+ articles is admirable. CluelessEditoroverhere (talk) 16:29, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
About your revert on one of my edits
[edit]About your revert on one of my edits:
https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=North_Dumfries&oldid=prev&diff=887589018
I just want to let you know that I added the needed sources or links to clarify my edit:
https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=North_Dumfries&diff=887592114&oldid=887589018
Plus it seems to me that you're a devoted or dedicated fan or analyst when it comes to local advanced geography within the Province of Ontario, when it comes to upper-tier municipalities, lower-tier municipalities, county-level city municipalities and populated place name units/areas within these local municipalities, hence the link you shared:
http://www4.rncan.gc.ca/search-place-names/search?lang=en
Maybe one day we can have an interesting conversation about this matter. If only I could e-mail you via Wikipedia, it would be more appropriate. Lemme know your thoughts. For now, keep up the good work.
jlog3000 (talk) 18:42, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
@Johnluisocasio: Thanks for writing. I took down my email access because my Wikipedia time has been limited for the past year, but a while back I created several Ontario articles and located many valuable sources...
- Airlie, Ontario
- Alma, Ontario
- Ariss, Ontario
- Banda, Ontario
- Blue Springs, Ontario
- Brookville, Ontario
- Brucedale, Ontario
- Centre Inn, Ontario
- Creek Bank, Ontario
- Cumnock, Ontario
- Darbyville, Ontario
- Elmbank, Ontario
- Haltonville, Ontario
- Kenilworth, Ontario
- Living Springs, Ontario
- Mansewood, Ontario
- Maryhill, Ontario
- North Woolwich, Ontario
- Olivet, Ontario
- Petherton, Ontario
- Pinkerton, Ontario
- Riverbank, Ontario
- Riverstown, Ontario
- Rosedene, Ontario
- Ruskview, Ontario
- Sayers Mills, Ontario
- Scotch Block, Ontario
- Speyside, Ontario
- Spier, Ontario
- St. Johns, Ontario
- Tunis, Ontario
- Val Gagné, Ontario
- Weissenburg, Ontario
- Zuber Corners, Ontario
I was delighted that St. Johns, Ontario and Val Gagné, Ontario were featured at Did you know, and Elmbank, Ontario is now a huge airport. If you have any questions feel free to ask. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:57, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
@Magnolia677: Aww, that's too bad, but it's understandable. However, the reason I asked is because if you're one of those people related with local populated or unpopulated place name units/areas within each local municipality (past as of former geographic townships and present as of amalgamated ones) within the province of Ontario. I have a reason for like trying to lend a hand for a bit on naming every current, historical & abandoned populated place unit/area (i.e.: neighboruhood or village or townlet or hamlet or community or settlement or locality) for each local municipality (normal or lower-tier [meaning that it corresponds within an upper-tier municipality's territorial borders or jurisdiction (like regional municipality or county in the South, or district in the North)] and single-tier or pseudo-independent [meaning that it doesn't correspond administratively within an upper-tier municipality's territorial borders or jurisdiction, but does for census division purposes] alike); and/or sorted out or organized by its former geographic townships if that local municipality consists of more than two geographic townships (partially & fully alike). Here are some samples of some of my 1st edits:
Any thoughts, feel free to discuss.
P.S.: So far I'm the only non-Canadian or non-Ontarian person who's curiously involved and invested enough to learn about such advanced geography styles in a local government unit standpoint. If that makes sense. jlog3000 (talk) 20:13, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
Clarification on your Iowa revision
[edit]Hello Magnolia677,
You posted on my talk page about some edits that I made to the Iowa page, and I see you've reverted some of those edits. You indicated that I should add reliable citations, but have reverted the photo captions back to their former versions, which also do not have citations. This seems arbitrary. I absolutely understand, respect, and want to uphold the integrity of Wikipedia. That's why I became an editor. I'm confused because it seems the vast majority of photos in Wikipedia articles do not feature citations in their captions, seemingly indicating that they are not expected to. In this case, I've clarified, indeed, what the photos are depicting and improved the citation by adding in-text links to other Wikipedia pages. I'm just confused as to how this is any kind of violation of Wikipedia's policies, and, if it is, how what you have reverted back to is any different.
Thank you very much for your assistance and clarification.
André Le Nôtre — Preceding unsigned comment added by André Le Nôtre (talk • contribs) 16:21, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- @André Le Nôtre: Your edit was unsourced and expressed your opinion. I reverted several of your edits for this reason. I urge you to read WP:OR, WP:IMPARTIAL and WP:NOT. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Magnolia677: I have already read and am familiar with those policies. I am not expressing an opinion in those edits; what I wrote is common knowledge in my field of expertise. Moreover, the text you have reverted back to (arbitrarily and capriciously, I would contend) exhibits exactly that: un-cited opinion. I believe you are abusing your editorial powers in this case, and suppressing an informed, capable editor's ability to "be bold". André Le Nôtre (talk) 20:41, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- @André Le Nôtre: "I am not expressing an opinion in those edits; what I wrote is common knowledge in my field of expertise." I am far too polite to respond that I could give two shits about your expertise, so I will instead remind you again that Wikipedia does not accept original research, unsourced content, or editing that is intended to make a biased point. Thanks for your understanding. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:31, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Magnolia677: It doesn't take much for you to abandon civility, does it? I know we're not going to get anywhere arguing this point. Clearly you don't have an enlarged ego or anything, but can you at least acknowledge that what you've reverted back to is unsubstantiated conjecture which Wikipedia (arbitrarily, you, in this case) "does not accept," and is in violation of the same policies you were ostensibly enforcing in reverting my edits? André Le Nôtre (talk) 20:18, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Edit to the Thunder Bay Public Library page
[edit]Hi there, thank you for the welcome to Wikipedia! :)
The section in question contained some information that was on the page before I started editing it. I looked around a little bit and I found the document where the information about the GEAC system came from. I think it's an internal Thunder Bay Public Library document though, so I'm not sure if that would count as a credible source (I think that document may be where the original history part on the page came from). Please let me know if I need to find another source and I'll try to track one down this week.
The second part regarding the Millennium upgrade is from a board report - I just forgot to cite it when I wrote it. Thank you for noticing! Skosoris (talk) 06:09, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Magnolia677: I just wanted to let you know that I found proper sources for the information in question! Skosoris (talk) 23:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Skosoris: Much thanks. A good source really helps the readers of Wikipedia. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:24, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Magnolia677: I just wanted to let you know that I found proper sources for the information in question! Skosoris (talk) 23:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
Shelby, North Carolina
[edit]Magnolia677, the information regarding Amtrak and passenger bus service is true. I live in Shelby and any of the info that I put on that page concerning these topics does not need a source. The info about Amtrak and Greyhound is available online. As info on Cleveland Mall that you took off. I will be reposting. From user bguthrie2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BGUTHRIE2 (talk • contribs) 23:37, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- @BGUTHRIE2: Please add a source to your edits. I have left another message on your talk page. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:35, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
@MAGNOLIA677: What do you have a problem understanding, pertaining my additions? Just taking off my things - which will be placed back later this week - are not accomplishing anything. You don't own this page. Be clear about your complaints. Sources of what? BGUTHRIE2
- User indeff'd for personal attacks and NOTHERE. John from Idegon (talk) 06:30, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Avicii
[edit]Sources including TMZ claim Avicii committed suicide by cutting himself with a wine bottle. Isn't that what self harm is? So can it be changed to suicide by self-harm instead of just suicide so people will know? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael14375 (talk • contribs) 00:50, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Michael14375: I have a theory that yellow school buses make birds fly south. Where I live, every September the school buses are back on the road. Soon after, all the birds start to fly south for the winter. I think this is cause-and-effect, and I have sources to support that both happen--year after year--a few week apart. I left a detailed message on your talk page under the heading "original research". Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:07, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- If he committed suicide by cutting himself with a wine bottle, and you don't agree it was self-harm, what can his cause of death be changed to so people will have information on his method of suicide? Michael14375 (talk) 09:18, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Michael14375: Please take a moment to read Avicii#Death, in particular the paragraph that starts "On 1 May, TMZ reported that the cause of death was a suicide due to self-inflicted injuries with a broken wine bottle, with Bergling eventually dying of blood loss." Magnolia677 (talk) 10:41, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- I know so wouldn't his cause of death be suicide by self-inflicted injuries or suicide by cutting? Michael14375 (talk) 13:46, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Michael14375: Please take a moment to read Avicii#Death, in particular the paragraph that starts "On 1 May, TMZ reported that the cause of death was a suicide due to self-inflicted injuries with a broken wine bottle, with Bergling eventually dying of blood loss." Magnolia677 (talk) 10:41, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- If he committed suicide by cutting himself with a wine bottle, and you don't agree it was self-harm, what can his cause of death be changed to so people will have information on his method of suicide? Michael14375 (talk) 09:18, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Educational institutions are not eligible for CSD A7
[edit]Hi there. I reverted your addition of a speedy deletion template to St. Thomas Community Christian School, because educational institutions are not eligible for deletion under CSD A7. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:06, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- In the future, when you see a clearly nn school article such as this one, just boldly redirect it. For a US or Canadian public school, to the school district; for a private school, to the education section of the settlement article on the community it is in. Please apply a {{r from school}} template when you do. Thanks, Magnolia. John from Idegon (talk) 05:05, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
WikiProject Mississippi
[edit]Hello! As a past or current member of WikiProject Mississippi, a WikiProject dedicated to developing and improving articles about Mississippi, you are cordially invited to edit, assess, and improve our coverage of all things Mississippi on Wikipedia! |
JonathanTheLibrarian (talk) 21:52, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- @JonathanTheLibrarian: Thanks! I added this photo yesterday. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 23:09, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Magnolia677: I went ahead and added the image to the Amory, MS page. Thanks for the image! JonathanTheLibrarian (talk) 23:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Culver Academies
[edit]Hi,
I see recent updates to Culver Academies page have been removed. Is there a reason for the removal? The updates were made with reliable references/sources, removing sourced information directly from Culver Academies itself, and those without sourced information could have been provided for with minimal time rather than removing the content.
We're simply trying to add more robust and truthful content for the page, as similar institutions that the updates were modeled after...I'll provide a few examples:
https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Phillips_Academy https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Phillips_Exeter_Academy https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/St._Paul%27s_School_(Concord,_New_Hampshire) https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Lawrenceville_School
The page is part of the following efforts:
https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Schools https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Indiana
Your assistance with building the content for the page rather than its removal is appreciated. Tkcollapse (talk) 19:20, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- I'd suggest you stop forum shopping and make your arguments for the changes you want at Talk:Culver Academies. These arguments should be based in reliable sources; and Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Arguments based on your personal preferences WP:ILIKEIT and on precedence WP:OSE will be disregarded. John from Idegon (talk) 19:40, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- @John from Idegon and Tkcollapse: Thanks John. Tkcollapse, we want the same thing you do, but Wikipedia is not Facebook or a personal webpage. So that Wikipedia remains unbiased and credible, all edits require reliable secondary sources, and cannot be promotional in tone. Thanks for your understanding. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:18, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
lil pump x offset
[edit]on lil pump’s discography he and lil pump are listed as features on lil yachty’s “baby daddy” from his Lil Boat 2 album. also, he is listed as a feature on lil pump’s Harverd Dropout. please, and i mean please, stay off of my page EveryonesFAVORITE*toy (talk) 17:11, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- EveryonesFAVORITE*toy, no one has a "page" here. This is an encyclopedia. Not even your userpages are yours. See WP:OWN. John from Idegon (talk) 19:29, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
bro literally who asked you, im genuinely curious EveryonesFAVORITE*toy (talk) 21:36, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- @EveryonesFAVORITE*toy: Please stop adding unsourced content to articles. Also, you are welcome to add content to my talk page, just be sure to remember what you learned the first day of grade one, and avoid vacuous comments. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:34, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- I am not now nor will I ever be your, or anyone else's "bro", EveryonesFAVORITE*toy. If you are not mature enough to correspond with your colleagues here in a respectful manner, using proper English, then IMO you have no business here. I'd suggest you start recognizing that Wikipedia is what it is, not what you want it to be, and you do so immediately. That's not a threat, it's a promise that unless you get in line with expectations here I will make it my business to see that you are not around much longer. No need to reply, just be forewarned. John from Idegon (talk) 02:00, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
😂 EveryonesFAVORITE*toy (talk) 17:05, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Edit of Notable People on McMechen, WV page
[edit]Hey there! I'm very new to the editing ballgame; however I will abide by wiki guidelines and by using common sense, etc. If you could expand on the edit I made that would be fantastic! The individual I added to the notable people section is a highly known country songwriter. He is known not just in my region but throughout songwriters in the industry. From my understanding of what yinz (yes, I'm from the Northern Panhandle of West Virginia, thus the Western PA dialect), prefer is to create a page/article strictly about the individual I added prior to adding them to such a subsection within a separate article? Again, if you could clarify I would appreciate this very much because I could make a page specifically with his name; however that seems redundant.. Thanks a bunch! Splenda87 (talk) 01:27, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
Tommy Trash
[edit]@Magnolia677 Man, I was in the middle of the process of adding verifiable sources and you removed everything. If you could kindly restore it back it'd be easier for me to do that rather than typing the whole thing all over again. The EDM Gug (talk) 09:13, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
OK never mind. I'll be adding sufficient links one by one, but in order to do that I've to retype the content first. Please don't remove then until I'm done adding links to all of what I added in the first place. The EDM Gug (talk) 09:24, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Wifisfuneral
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You're really threating to block me from editing? Dude why are you so annoying I added the sources ffs. This is literally why wikipedia is dying lmao. It's ppl like you, that discourage contributions... smh. This is all on his soundcloud 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦 DarrenPHS (talk) 11:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC) |
- @DarrenPHS: Dude...DILLIGAS? Magnolia677 (talk) 16:58, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Saltville
[edit]You deleted the part of the caption from the photo "downtown saltville in 1967" stating the name of the photographer. He is a well known photographer in the area of southwest Virginia, and it is notable to state where the photo was taken for the historical context of the Company Store which has sense been demolished and was previously a well known landmark due to its connection to the Olin Corporation which was a significant part of the town's history during the first three quarters of the 20th century, including being the location where rocket fuel used for the Apollo program and moon landings was processed.
This is a quote from the email I received from the photographer when I asked him for permission to post the photo on Wikipedia: "[Y]ou may use the photo of Saltville in 1967. All I ask is photo credit.". As you can see, he specifically asked for "photo credit". If you insist on removing that part of the caption in violation of the terms of the photographer's permission, then remove the entire photo instead.
As for removing the mention of Tom Buchanan, his name has been on that page for many years, if not over a decade. I was not the one who added his name to the article. He previously did have a wikipedia article devoted solely to him before it was merged with the article for Survivor: Africa. I see nothing in the Wikipedia guidelines that would justify his name being removed. He's definitely more well-known in the area around Saltville than most of the other people listed on the article. Vontheri (talk) 11:56, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
I see that you also removed the reference to Tom Buchanan from the page for Rich Valley, Virginia. He is definitely notable to the area, and is one of the area's "claims to fame". That may seem ridiculous that this is the case for someone who is only a reality television contestant, but for a small town in a rural area it is reality. For example, see this news article. It states, "Rich Valley’s most famous resident, “Big Tom” Buchanan of “Survivor” fame, is back on television – this time with his whole family." If a town's "most famous resident" is not notable, then who is? Vontheri (talk) 12:15, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Vontheri: Please read my edit summaries, and if you still dispute my edits, discuss on the Saltville, Virginia talk page. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:26, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- I did read your edit summaries. I just copy and pasted these messages to the relevant talk pages. Thank you. Vontheri (talk) 13:01, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
Tucson edit--possible vandalism
[edit]Dear Magnolia, Thanks for being alert. I didn't suspect vandalism before or on second sight, now. I'm willing to let it go Bellagio99 (talk) 22:54, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
Unsourced content
[edit]I think the warning for this edit was partially unwarranted. The user did attempt to provide a citation for the edit. The put it in the wrong place and did not format it correctly, but clearly they are trying. So the warning for unsourced content was not the best route, you should have tried to explain to them what they did wrong. Especially since the wording for lvl 3 warnings and above are pretty stern. I did have to warn this user already for other edits, but I was happy to see them at least attempt to provide a reliable source for this edit. StaticVapor message me! 21:52, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- @STATicVapor: I agree. I missed that at the bottom. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:05, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah sorry I had to send you this message. Appreciate everything you do around here :) StaticVapor message me! 00:16, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Can you stop.
[edit]I'm fixing headlines and you are changing them back for no reason.
- @Collegeandcosmos: I can see you are student editor at the State University of New York, so you must be pretty smart. Let me ask you something. You've made nine edits to Wikipedia, and I've made 73,135. I reverted this edit with the edit summary "per MOS". Now what would a smart person do in a difficult situation like this? Well, they'd probably start with a bit of research, like find out what an "MOS" is. Also, what does "per" mean? You know, learn the rules of the road. Instead, you want me to stop. You're ruining my edits for no reason!!! Let me quote The Simpsons, "What have I done to deserve this flat flavorless Manhattan"? Magnolia677 (talk)!
- Collegeandcosmos, your version was incorrect; Magnolia's version was correct. See WP:MOSHEADER. And while you're reading policy, read WP:AGF. Everyone comes here initially with some level of misconception about how Wikipedia works. Those who listen to their more experienced peers and onboard the advice they are given learn their way through the myriad of policies guidelines and traditions we have here and generally find it to be an enjoyable and educational experience. Those who don't end up either getting their editing privileges revoked or quitting in frustration. "The encyclopedia anyone can edit" in no way implies you can add anything you want, any way you want. Frankly you owe Magnolia an apology. John from Idegon (talk) 19:45, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
External link on Megan Thee Stallion
[edit]I noticed that you removed the Instagram link on Megan Thee Stallion's page per the minimal external links policy. However, I'm going to replace it because, per WP:ELMIN, having additional links is appropriate if they add significant unique content. This artist has gained prominence through posting freestyles on her Instagram and continues to do so regularly. These videos are not available on her website, nor is a link to her Instagram prominently linked at her official website (or anywhere that I could find). Since her Instagram is such a salient part of her work and has a specific and unique value, I think it qualifies as an appropriate addition. Thank you! Citrivescence (talk) 16:07, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Citrivescence: I have reverted your edit. Please gain consensus on the article talk page. I'd suggest you provide a reliable source to support your assertion. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:10, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Magnolia677: Sure, I can find some sources and will put them on the Talk page. Citrivescence (talk) 02:10, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Citrivescence, just because you find some reliable sources that say the work shown on Instagram is important still does not mean you can add the link. You must convince any opposing editors of the utility of that link and gain a consensus to include it. Our copyright policies are different than Instagram's. That alone is enough for me to oppose it. John from Idegon (talk) 02:22, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Also, her Instagram is linked on her official website. That is sufficient. John from Idegon (talk) 02:26, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- @John from Idegon: I am confused by your comment about Instagram's copyright policy and how that influences your opposition to adding the link. Can you explain that? And, according to WP:ELMIN, the link should be prominently displayed on the official website; as far as I can see, it is not on the home page. I see the words "Instagram" on the "photos" page but there is no hyperlink. If you don't mind replying on the Talk page, that would be much appreciated. Citrivescence (talk) 02:39, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Also, her Instagram is linked on her official website. That is sufficient. John from Idegon (talk) 02:26, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Citrivescence, just because you find some reliable sources that say the work shown on Instagram is important still does not mean you can add the link. You must convince any opposing editors of the utility of that link and gain a consensus to include it. Our copyright policies are different than Instagram's. That alone is enough for me to oppose it. John from Idegon (talk) 02:22, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Magnolia677: Sure, I can find some sources and will put them on the Talk page. Citrivescence (talk) 02:10, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Hey, pal. Do you need a vacation?
[edit]There was nothing wrong whatsoever with those recent edits you reverted on those podunk communities in Indiana. There was also nothing wrong with you reverting them. Your warning, however, was completely out of line. It's common to redirect super stubby articles on geographic features to the next governmental unit up. I do it myself frequently with schools and less frequently with places.
By choice, you work in an area that subjects you to a lot of abuse. Go take a few days, play with your daughter, smell the spring flowers and come back refreshed. You're tilting at the wrong windmills, Don. John from Idegon (talk) 00:38, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- The actual problem here is the user Reywas92, who seems to be nominating many articles of places in Indiana that I have created for deletion. Magnolia, what are your thoughts on this matter? Evking22 (talk)
- Evking22, it's not a problem, it is a difference of opinion, which God knows, Wikipedia is full of. I have the utmost respect for Magnolia...we've worked together hundreds of times. Social geography is not the issue. He is getting tons of abuse in the other area he chooses to work in, and I don't want to see him come down on the wrong side of a line. I just got my very first block in 8 years last week...it isn't fun. John from Idegon (talk) 21:33, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- @John from Idegon: A 3-r block. It's your passion for improving the project and the high standards you set--one of the reasons you are well-respected here.
- @Evking22: That editor certainly has their knickers in a knot. So much anger at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hildebrand Village, Indiana. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 10:14, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- Could you give me a list of those small communities in Indiana that are at AfD please? John from Idegon (talk) 15:14, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- No, the problem is you creating a bunch of worthless sub-stubs without any sources attesting to their notability. Your blind reliance on the GNIS to mass-produce these is riddled with problems: places that do not exist as "communities" on the map, subdivisions that are actually incorporated in cities, and other routine non-notable neighborhoods, leaving a mess to clean up. No reason these can't exist as redirects since they have zero content, though that leaves the prior errors ("is" vs "was", perhaps?) and lack of contextual sourcing. Here's a few more AFDs: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hubbard, Indiana, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pleasure Valley, Indiana, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Knighthood Village, Indiana; are you going to claim auto-generated websites and existence of someone named Hubbard makes these notable too? Reywas92Talk 19:23, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Reywas92: I totally appreciate your frustration at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hildebrand Village, Indiana, but you've made some amazing points there so please don't take it personally that so many editors are not agreeing with you (Heck, I'm not offended that when I strongly cautioned you to stop your mass blanking/redirecting of those articles you told me to fuck off). While you're here can I get your opinion on something? I'm completely torn as to whether this book meets WP:NBOOK? Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 20:08, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Well I apologize for that edit summary though I don't appreciate being being threatened with a block by a template. Thanks for the sarcasm and the terrific suggestion for next month's book club, but I'd go for redirect to Bookseller/Diagram Prize for Oddest Title of the Year, an excellent award but one that doesn't confer notability. Reywas92Talk 20:25, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- This is excellent reading gents...keep it going!Coal town guy (talk) 15:55, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
- Well I apologize for that edit summary though I don't appreciate being being threatened with a block by a template. Thanks for the sarcasm and the terrific suggestion for next month's book club, but I'd go for redirect to Bookseller/Diagram Prize for Oddest Title of the Year, an excellent award but one that doesn't confer notability. Reywas92Talk 20:25, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Reywas92: I totally appreciate your frustration at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hildebrand Village, Indiana, but you've made some amazing points there so please don't take it personally that so many editors are not agreeing with you (Heck, I'm not offended that when I strongly cautioned you to stop your mass blanking/redirecting of those articles you told me to fuck off). While you're here can I get your opinion on something? I'm completely torn as to whether this book meets WP:NBOOK? Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 20:08, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Evking22, it's not a problem, it is a difference of opinion, which God knows, Wikipedia is full of. I have the utmost respect for Magnolia...we've worked together hundreds of times. Social geography is not the issue. He is getting tons of abuse in the other area he chooses to work in, and I don't want to see him come down on the wrong side of a line. I just got my very first block in 8 years last week...it isn't fun. John from Idegon (talk) 21:33, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
University of Toronto Schools
[edit]Hello Magnolia677 please explain why you have reversed my edit of yesterday in the History section of this subject, which restored information that had long been in there, naming four students who participated in the Protest For Nothing. It is well sourced, from the two newspaper articles cited in Note 4. Those articles set out the names. This was an historic and unique event for the school and, since there have been false claims published as to the participants, correct information should be provided as I have done, including clarifying that certain individuals were not involved. I am restoring the information once again and would appreciate your respecting it. Thales88 (talk) 15:49, 10 May 2019 (UTC)Thales88
- @Thales88: I see you have fixed the edit. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:24, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Mount Laurel, NJ
[edit]How on earth is notability not established for Ethel R. Lawrence when she was the lead plaintiff on the initial cases that led to the Mount Laurel Doctrine? What's more, the the homes that she fought for are named after her.Linda Coasio of the The Star-Ledger called her "the Rosa Parks of the housing movement." I added citations Finelinebilly (talk) 19:57, 17 May 2019 (UTC)finelinebilly
A barnstar for you!
[edit]The Barnstar of Good Humor | |
Because what else would drive a person to debate all places great and small and NOT be a member of the Geography Illuminati... Coal town guy (talk) 16:26, 14 May 2019 (UTC) |
- @Coal town guy: Thank you very much! I hope you're well. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 19:33, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Comment
[edit]Many thanks for your comment. Wikipedia is a gazetteer. It is my understanding that geographic features in Wikipedia are considered notable and that includes unincorporated communities-many many-RFD (talk) 19:21, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Additional Comment
[edit]Hi-the TOPOZONE MAP link is very useful in locating communities, etc. Also the unincorporated communities may have a notable person such as a state legislator, etc. who was born in the community. I would add the name with a citation to the article. And there may be some interesting buildings from the National Register of Historic Places located in the community that should be added on with a citation. Also I noticed editors would added information about the history of the community with citations. Again many thanks-RFD (talk) 09:40, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- @RFD: Another tool in my toolbox. Thanks! Whenever I add photos I use this amazing tool to grab exact coordinates in a template. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 09:55, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
Comment on Hubbard 'station'
[edit]Greetings.
This isn't something I can prove but I'd like to suggest it.
I don't think that Hubbard should be called a 'station' on the South Bend line, at least not without some qualification. It was not a scheduled stop. In all likelihood, it might be more of a platform (paved or gravelled) to allow a quick stop or slowdown to let someone on or off at that location. 'Station' implies a dedicated building. Back in the day, trains were much more accommodating when it came to people moving around the tracks and on and off of trains. I've seen references in the past about this happening on Sundays in order to make it easier for people to get to and from church. FWIW, in Toronto, churches on streetcar routes have Sunday stops in front of them for this purpose. So I'd like to suggest rephrasing it to something like, 'non-scheduled stop'. Regards. ogenstein (talk) 22:35, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Mothman: I don't think it should be called a station either, but those Indiana AfD's have been pretty heated so I didn't want to take liberties and used the word found in the source cited. I think it was more of a whistle stop, or just a stop. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:50, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi Magnolia677, please explain this edit, Robert Benjamin Smith is a legitimate entry to 'Notable people'. Thanks. Woodlot (talk) 21:00, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Woodlot: My aim was off. I meant to hit this edit, two before yours; part of a mass revert of a notorious sockpuppet. My apology; I've self-reverted. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 02:13, 26 May 2019 (UTC)