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Hello, are you Aromanian?
[edit]May I suggest you to a Discord server? If you are Macedo-Romanian where are you from? Hanno the Navigator (talk) 09:32, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
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Aromanian Website.
[edit]What are you doing ?! What's your problem? The Website is fine! If you do not like that aromanians joined Romania, it is your problem. That was their decision, not yours. Aromanians joined Greece as well. You don't have a problem with that, do you? If you remove that website again I will report you for nationalism. Bolt Escargot (talk) 02:10, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
The Aromanians are Aromanians, and not greeks and romanians! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:35, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Are you aromanian? MacedoRoman (talk) 02:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
We have our own indetity! We are not greeks and not romanians! We dont have country, but this does not mean that we are romanians or greeks! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:39, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I am an Aromanian. You believe that Aromanians are Aromanians. You should know there are Aromanians that believe they are Greeks and Aromanians that believe they are Romanians. You believe that you are solely Aromanian. It is your right to believe that as it is their to believe the opposite. You must learn what democracy is and respect the rights of others. I see that you are an Aromanian Nationalist. I told you, keep nationalism away from Wikipedia and add websites from all sides : Greek - Aromanian, Romanian - Aromanian and solely Aromanian. I saw Greek-Aromanian websites that promote the idea of Aromanians being Greek. Isn't that Greek Nationalism? Why didn't you remove these websites and blogs too? You are selective and therefore you are not objective. I will add the website again. Do not remove the website again otherwise I will report you. I warned you once. Bolt Escargot (talk) 03:42, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
If i know who website are with pro greek propoganda, i will remove them, but i can not understand the greek language, but albanian language i understand! MacedoRoman (talk) 05:29, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
My friend, i know what democracy is! Democracy is not to do what you want!!!!! Can you tell me from wich country you are? I am from Albania, and you? MacedoRoman (talk) 05:32, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
You can report me is no problem. I will find a way to delete it again! MacedoRoman (talk) 05:34, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
As i can see, your works are mostly in the "Aromanian area", that makes me belive that your interes is not to do something for the Wikipedia, but just to change thinks in the "Aromanian zone"! I think you dont give a fuck for Wikipedia! MacedoRoman (talk) 05:41, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
First of all, you are an ignorant. You cannot even write English properly. Stop offending me and discriminating me. You are a racist. You do not know what democracy is, since you are not allowing me to express myself properly and contribute to Wikipedia. You are the one that tries to enforce your opinion upon me. I told you, I will report you and I will. I do not care what you think of me. Racism is not tolerated. Bolt Escargot (talk) 19:00, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
You can say what you want! Its my right to be racist! Its my choice! This is democracy! I will delete it again! MacedoRoman (talk) 19:12, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
http://arumun.com/2020/11/30/arumun-te-bejne-gjenet-gjaku-dhe-gjuha-rrugetimi-jetesor-i-lila-shundit.html Title : Arumun të bëjnë gjenet, gjaku dhe gjuha”, rrugëtimi jetësor i Lila Shundit. http://arumun.com/2020/12/01/jon-karamitru-nje-personalitet-i-kultures-bashkekohore-3.html Title : Jon Karamitru, një personalitet i kulturës bashkëkohore. Title : Moscopolea azâ http://arumun.com/2020/10/19/moscopolea-aza.html http://arumun.com/category/dialekti-arumun (Aromanian dialect of Romanian). Read the articles and see for yourself. Bolt Escargot (talk) 19:17, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
No you cannot be a racist with me, harass me and offend me. Bolt Escargot (talk) 19:18, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
I can not be a racist with you if you are aromanian! I have readed the articles, and there is to much propoganda! What means "Dialekti Arumun"?! First, our language is not a dialect, but a separate language! Second, in this fucking website does not exist an article writen in aromanian language, but in albanian and romanian! Why?! MacedoRoman (talk) 19:28, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
What means "Departamentul Pentru Românii De Pretutindeni”?! I can not understand it! I founded it in this website! MacedoRoman (talk) 19:33, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for my bad english! MacedoRoman (talk) 19:34, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
This is the article in aromanian. Title : Moscopolea azâ http://arumun.com/2020/10/19/moscopolea-aza.html. My language is a dialect of Romanian. If you do not believe me read Wikipedia in English and see for yourself.It says that Aromanian is a dialect of Romanian or a separate language. That is how I, an Aromanian see it. You see it in a different way. I do not have a problem with that. You do not have the right to prevent me from expressing my own point of view. Departamentul Pentru Românii De Pretutindeni” means : Department for Romanians wherever they are. We are considered Romanian Diaspora by Romania. You should feel shame for harassing a fellow Aromanian. I forgive you for your bad English. I do not forgive you for your Racism and discrimination. Bolt Escargot (talk) 19:58, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
In 100 articles only one article in aromanian?! You should not see to much articles in Wikipedia! Wikipedia is bullshit! Everyone can write articles in Wikipedia! MacedoRoman (talk) 20:11, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
If you read Wikipedia, you can also read my articles, but you told me that i am an ignorat, that means also that some articles are bad, because i have write it! MacedoRoman (talk) 20:14, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
And this article in aromanian is not with aromanian alphabet! This person who have writen it, has no idea! MacedoRoman (talk) 20:16, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
You are indeed an ignorant. I was correct. It doesn't matter if it is one or one hundred. Aromanians created this website and that's final. You should know that there is not only one Aromanian Alphabet but many. The article is written in Aromanian using the Romanian Alphabet. The one that wrote it is certainly smarter than you. That is my opinion. Take it or leave it. Also, your articles are worthless since you are not a Democrat, neutral and objective. Furthermore, Wikipedia is bullshit? What do you mean? Then why do you stay here and read? I think you do not know what you're saying. You're demented. Also, constant exclamation marks prove to me that you are immature and you cannot argue correctly so, leave Wikipedia to other more experienced users than you. But, hell why do I bother, you will still act like an ape. I am trying to be as civilized as possible and you are preventing me. Do as you please. If Wikipedia is filled with people like you, it is not a place I would like to be. Completely dissapointed. Bolt Escargot (talk) 20:31, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Stop stop! You are an ignorat! Why the article is writen with romanian letters? This is not a propoganda for you? Fucking romanian propoganda we dont need! Also fucking greek propoganda! MacedoRoman (talk) 20:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Hahahahaha "It doesn't matter if it is one or one hundred" hahaha yes it doesn't matter! Aromanian website with only one aromanian article (with romanian letters), and more than hundred romanian articles! And this website is not with propoganda! You are ignorat my friend, or you want also to make propoganda, or both! MacedoRoman (talk) 20:55, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
MacedoRoman and Bolt Escargot, I've removed both pro-Greek and pro-Romanian websites. This should fix this whole issue. Super Ψ Dro 20:56, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
We are fighting to keep aromanians clean, to do domething for them, and you with some others are trying to destroy it! Shame on you and on other aromanians lime you! You are traitors! MacedoRoman (talk) 20:59, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Super Dromaeosaurus Thank you for deleting both propoganda websites! MacedoRoman (talk) 21:00, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- No problem, but calm down or you will end up reported by someone and blocked. I don't care if you have different views from other editors, but people talk in Wikipedia politely and without disrespecting each other. And don't use "!" either, it is equivalent to yelling and that is defiant. Super Ψ Dro 21:01, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
It will fix it alright. But that will not change my stance.I am done with Aromanians from now on in most of the cases that is.Thank you for being a diplomat. You are a good and smart editor and contributor. I cannot say the same for MacedoRoman. MacedoRoman talks and acts like an ape, constantly offending me and discriminating me.I do not tolerate racism. Removing everything will provide a solution to an unnecessary (for me) conflict but that is not the role of Wikipedia. Anyway, I will not reedut the changes you've made and accept your solution. Bolt Escargot (talk) 21:13, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
You offended me first? Forget?! Tell me where i was racist with you?! You told me that i am an ignorat! MacedoRoman (talk) 21:25, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
If you continue talking to me like that, I will definitely report you for racism. This is your last chance. I will not tolerate your ridiculous excuses anymore. You are so childish. Your arguments are childish. If you hadn't deleted the website the conflict would have never happened at all. I will spare you this time (thanks to Super Dromaeosaurus and his amazing diplomatic skills). Prevent me or disrupt me again without good reason and you will be reported instantly and without hesitation. Do you understand? Bolt Escargot (talk) 22:33, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Hahahaha now i am scared! Maybe i am racist, but i am patriot, not like you! Maybe i am racist, but i know what i am, not like you!!! I am aromanian! MacedoRoman (talk) 23:00, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
You are in big trouble now. I am willing to give you one final chance and pretend that you did not say those words. Otherwise report will follow. Bolt Escargot (talk) 23:07, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
I can say what i want! I live in a democratic country! I am also a democrat like you. MacedoRoman (talk) 23:28, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Our bigest problem are not Greece and Romania. Our bigest problem are WE!!!! MacedoRoman (talk) 23:29, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Firstly, I agree with you on that. Aromanians should have joined Romania and most conflicts between us would cease to exist.That is my personal opinion and you should respect it. Secondly, No, you are not a Democrat. You are constantly offending me and showing racism. I request a formal apology otherwise I will still report you. I am as polite and as civilized as I can. Apologize to me and it will be as if nothing happened. Bolt Escargot (talk) 23:37, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
I don't apologize! You can make what you want! I am not scaret form one report! MacedoRoman (talk) 23:49, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
OK then. As you wish. Bolt Escargot (talk) 23:50, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Why the aromanians should have joined Romania? It is not better they had their own homeland, in the original place, in Macedonia and Epirus?! MacedoRoman (talk) 23:50, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
You are not the only, that i must "fight"! I also must fight against aromanians who are progreeks! I told you, dot Romania and Greece are bad for our indetity, but we are bad, we aromanians, because we have people like you!!!! MacedoRoman (talk) 23:53, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Shame on you! People like you we don't need! MacedoRoman (talk) 23:55, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
I told you you are a Nationalist. This proves it : It is not better they had their own homeland, in the original place, in Macedonia and Epirus?!MacedoRoman (talk) 23:50, 6 December 2020 (UTC). No, we are Romanians. We have a homeland, Romania. I respect the borders as they are and I do not want them to change. You are an Irredentist. Macedonia and Epirus belong to Greece, Albania, Bulgaria and North Macedonia. The Aromanian homeland was to the North of the Jirecek line,which means 1)Kosovo 2)Serbia and 3)Northern Bulgaria. We came to the south of the Balkan Peninsula because of the Slavic invasions in the 6th Century. That is history and facts. Our ancestral homeland does not exist anymore. It was lost. We have to find a new one. Many Aromanians chose Greece. But I chose our cousins, Romanians that support us just like the Greeks. I am a Thraco-Roman that is connected with the Daco-Romans. Our ancestors were speaking the Proto-Albanian language before being latinized. Bolt Escargot (talk) 01:42, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Shame on you! People like you we don't need! I beg your pardon? I can feel anything I want. You will not define that. Moreover I have the right to live and express my opinion for my nation. Romanians are aromanians whether you like it or not. You can be whatever you want. You are free. Bolt Escargot (talk) 01:47, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
You are not the only, that i must "fight"! I also must fight against aromanians who are progreeks! I told you, dot Romania and Greece are bad for our indetity, but we are bad, we aromanians, because we have people like you!!!! MacedoRoman (talk) 23:53, 6 December 2020 (UTC). You are very offensive. My rights are equal to yours. You do not have to fight anyone. I am not an enemy. I am friendly and sincere. Bolt Escargot (talk) 01:49, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
I am nacionalist, and its my right to be! We are not romanians. Romanians are a mix of slavic and romani people! MacedoRoman (talk) 01:58, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Romania helped us survive lingustically and Greece Culturally. Our civilization is Greek and our language Romanian. That is my opinion. And I believe with confidence that it is the truth. My language is a dialect of Romanian. It is too underdeveloped as a language to be considered one. I cannot express myself properly in my dialect. There is not enough vocabulary to allow that. Therefore, Romanian is the only option of mother language. Bolt Escargot (talk) 01:59, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
You are not my enemy, but the enemy of the aromanian indetity! Romania and Greece don't support us as aromanians, but as romanians and greeks! Romania and Greece should recognize us as aromanians, and not as "romanians from diaspora" and as "latinized greeks"!!! If some people tell they are romanians, and the others tell that they are greeks, our indetity as aromanians goes 1000% lost! I want to keep my indetity like my forefathers! Yes i am nacionalist and i am proud, and it is my right to be nacionalist and racist! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:05, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
If they helped us, than i say thanks, but we are still not romanians and greeks! You didn't know how much aromanians had killed Greece! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
You have the right to be whatever you want as long as you do not impose your ideas on others. As per the Romanian people, you are wrong. Romanians are a mix of : 1) Vlachs (just like us, Aromanians), 2) Slavs (Southern [mostly] , Eastern and Western [a bit]) and maybe even Turks (Cuman, pechenegs or Tatars e.g. See Dimitrie Cantemir and Bogdan Romanian Royal Family). Romanians descend from all these peoples and not just Slavs. If that was the case, they would have been assimilated and they would have Slavs or Turks. The main population they descend from are the Vlachs. Romani people are also known (in a derogatory manner) as Gypsies. You do know they descend from India, don't you? Bolt Escargot (talk) 02:11, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
I also have the right to tell what i am and what i feel! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:13, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Yes i am nacionalist and i am proud, and it is my right to be nacionalist and racist! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:05, 7 December 2020 (UTC). That is correct but you have no place in Wikipedia. Your ideas are not allowed. Bolt Escargot (talk) 02:14, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Why? Wikipedia is only for those who are not racists and nacionalists? In Wikipedia you have to much articles with propoganda, made by nacionalists. To much! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:16, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
I also have the right to tell what i am and what i feel! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:13, 7 December 2020 (UTC). Nobody is preventing you from doing that. What we are against is your nationalism and especially your racism. They have no place here. Bolt Escargot (talk) 02:17, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
If you add informacions with propoganda, the peoples belive what they read, and this is wrong information, and wrong information has no place there! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:18, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Why? Wikipedia is only for those who are not racists and nacionalists? In Wikipedia you have to much articles with propoganda, made by nacionalists. To much! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:16, 7 December 2020 (UTC) Yes, Nazism, Promotion of Racism and Ultra nationalism is not allowed. See WP:NATIONALIST, NAZISM
Bolt Escargot (talk) 02:19, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
I am nacionalist and racist, but i have done nothing wrong in the Wikipedia! I only helped Wikipedia with informations. MacedoRoman (talk) 02:20, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
It is not allowed, but to much things are wrong there! For exaple some informations about the aromanians. Informations with propoganda! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:22, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
To be nacionalist is nothing wrong! Nacionalist it means to love your nation! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:23, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
The website arumun.com has to much propoganda, and if anyone reads it, he takes wrong informations about the aromanians! Nazism and racism is not allowed, but what about with propoganda and wrong informations my friend?! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:25, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Romania and Greece should recognize us as aromanians, as the European Union does! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:27, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
I am nacionalist and racist, but i have done nothing wrong in the Wikipedia! I only helped Wikipedia with informations. MacedoRoman (talk) 02:20, 7 December 2020 (UTC) Are you serious? You must be joking! Why do you think I am talking to you right now? You prevent me from adding My Point of View here in Wikipedia. You remove the Website Arumun.com from the External links. That is Not Allowed. I never prevented you from expressing your own opinion. I just reported you for that... Bolt Escargot (talk) 02:28, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
To be nacionalist is nothing wrong! Nacionalist it means to love your nation! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:23, 7 December 2020 (UTC) No, Nationalist means that you love Your Nation Above other Nations. It usually includes hatred as well. Bolt Escargot (talk) 02:30, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Romania and Greece should recognize us as aromanians, as the European Union does! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:27, 7 December 2020 (UTC) Romania should only recognize us as a linguistic minority and help us keep the language alive while Greece should recognize us as Aromanians/Romanians. It is the same thing to me. Bolt Escargot (talk) 02:32, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
The website arumun.com has to much propoganda, and if anyone reads it, he takes wrong informations about the aromanians! Nazism and racism is not allowed, but what about with propoganda and wrong informations my friend?! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:25, 7 December 2020 (UTC) No, False it is Propaganda for you not for me. If that is the case then all the Greeks are Propagandists and should not be allowed to speak because they want to hellenize Aromanians. We are Latins and we deserve to remain like that. Bolt Escargot (talk) 02:35, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Romania should recognize us as linguistic minority?! But you told me that aromanian language is just a dialect of the romanian language!!! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:43, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
It is not allowed, but to much things are wrong there! For exaple some informations about the aromanians. Informations with propoganda! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:22, 7 December 2020 (UTC) I didn't see you having a problem with Greek Propaganda. You hate Romanians and you are biased.On the Contrary, I respect them for what they are and I can debate with them concerning our origins with facts and using logics (due to the lack of evidence about our origin). Greeks are also appreciated by me but their School and national History contains lots of lies (Aromanians are Greeks, Macedonians are Greeks, Arvanites are Greeks). The minorities's rights are not respected and if someone does not feel a Greek he is not given his national rights. Bolt Escargot (talk) 02:44, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Yes i love my nation above other nations! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:44, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
I also have the same problem with greeks! I think that Greece is more dangerous for us as Romania! I want my nation to be clean, to be aromanian, te speak aromanian, to be what it was!!! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:46, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Romania should recognize us as linguistic minority?! But you told me that aromanian language is just a dialect of the romanian language!!! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:43, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
As a linguistic, not a national one. Just to preserve our dialect and culture. We only need a special status and that's it. It makes no difference. Bolt Escargot (talk) 02:46, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
You are from Romania and you are pro Romania, some who are from Greece, are pro Greece! Also some albanians say that we are latinized albanians! I am tired with those people! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:48, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
If our language is a dialect of the romanian language, we do not have the right to be linguistic minority! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:49, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
If every aromanian was like me, we had now our own state, but to much aromanians are like you, and now we go losed in 7 countries, and fight each other! If it happend a war betwen Greece and Romania, to much aromanians will fight against each other! To much aromanians will kill aromanians for one foreigin state! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:55, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Can you understand why we don't have a state?! MacedoRoman (talk) 03:00, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
I also have the same problem with greeks! I think that Greece is more dangerous for us as Romania! I want my nation to be clean, to be aromanian, te speak aromanian, to be what it was!!! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:46, 7 December 2020 (UTC) I agree with you. But I do not have a problem with them. I just want my linguistic and national rights. It is only normal after all since Greeks are not Latins and their language is a threat to ours. On the other hand if you speak Romanian it has the same basic vocabulary as Aromanian. That way, an Aromanian that speaks Romanian will have difficulty in forgetting his language. Romanian will be a constant reminder of the ancestral dialect of ours. It is a Latin Language that will help us survive. It is the nation that we detached from so long ago. Medieval times were rough. People moved from one place to another and we were not an exception. We invaded the south and we inhabited Greece because we did not have any other choice. It was either 1) Assimilation from the Slavs or 2) Emigration. We chose the second and we survived. That's why we exist to this day. Bolt Escargot (talk) 03:10, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Also some albanians say that we are latinized albanians! I am tired with those people! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:48, 7 December 2020 (UTC). You are correct here. Those that support that, are charlatans and they are deceiving us. No, we are not latinized Albanians. Because we are not natives. And Albanians are not natives as well. They are Daco-Moesians just like us. They just didn't assimilate and they invaded the south like Aromanians. The only Palo-Balkan People that did not loose his identity and did not get assimilated Are the Albanians. They are descendants of the Carpi, a Daco-Moesian People. See Albanian-Romanian linguistic Relationship on Wikipedia. Bolt Escargot (talk) 03:20, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
You are from Romania and you are pro Romania, some who are from Greece, are pro Greece! No, I am not from Romania, that is your conclusion and I am pro Romanian because I understood the truth which is :We are Romanians of the Balkan Peninsula. Those that support the Greek version of the story are also liers because the Greeks were never latinized at all or at least permanently as Greek resisted as a language the Roman Occupation inside the Roman Empire as lingua franca of the East.(Please read some history, it will do you good. You literally know nothing and you have the nerve to teach me a lesson about Aromanians.). The pro-Greek fraction of the Aromanians is like because of 1)bitter past nationalistic wars, 2) If they are not from Greece, they want to receive benefits from that country(e.g. Working Visas and other privileges). Furthermore a significant portion of young Aromanians that were raised in Greece believe the Propaganda they are taught at schools and they are ideologically predisposed. That is mostly it. Bolt Escargot (talk) 03:30, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Can you understand why we don't have a state?! MacedoRoman (talk) 03:00, 7 December 2020 (UTC). Yes,Because we are invaders from the Central and Northern Balkans Bolt Escargot (talk) 03:33, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
If our language is a dialect of the romanian language, we do not have the right to be linguistic minority! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:49, 7 December 2020 (UTC). Of course we have. Pontic Greeks speak a dialect of Greek that is not intelligible with modern Geeek.It is like a totally different language. They were refuges from Asia Minor in 1922-1923. Does that make them less Greek? According to you, yes they are different and not Greek. Your answer would have been correct But! They are a linguistic minority, that if it is not protected it will vanish and the Pontics will speak Only Modern Greek.Which is fine, because they will be Greek-speaking as always. Greece should recognize them as a linguistic minority so as to protect them from vanishing. Are they a different nation? The Answer : No. Different Dialect does not mean different nation even if that dialect is very different from the Standard or Modern version of the language. The same applies to Aromanians. They speak the Aromanian variant of Romanian. Inside Romania we are not actually a minority. We are were we belong. That is my opinion and I think the scientific truth. Keep in mind that Thede Kahl (The main researcher for the Aromanians according to Wikipedia said that : Aromanians of Romania preserved their language in a better way than those in Greece. That is a fact and that I explained above why it happens. To conclude, linguistic minority is not national minority. Period and end of discussion. Bolt Escargot (talk) 03:48, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
If every aromanian was like me, we had now our own state, but to much aromanians are like you, and now we go losed in 7 countries, and fight each other! If it happend a war betwen Greece and Romania, to much aromanians will fight against each other! To much aromanians will kill aromanians for one foreigin state! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:55, 7 December 2020 (UTC). If every Aromanian was thinking like you, we would have been all dead by now because of constant wars. The only mistake I personally see is the fact that Aromanians joined Greece instead of Romania. That way we wouldn't have been assimilated and we would have survived as a nation. Now, instead thanks to ignorant racist people like you, we will vanish into thin air assimilated by our neighbours like we never existed at all. That is the correct conclusion and your poorly-thought nationalistic nazist claims of our superior Nation of the region. The region was never ours to begin with. End of discussion. Bolt Escargot (talk) 04:00, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Your poorly-thought nationalistic nazist claims of our superior Nation of the region is completely wrong* Bolt Escargot (talk) 04:02, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Even when we are from Romania, we are not romanians! If you se the romanian people and the aromanian, you can see the difference! MacedoRoman (talk) 04:15, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Can you tell me where are you from please? MacedoRoman (talk) 04:18, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
You didn't know how much aromanians had killed Greece! MacedoRoman (talk) 02:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC) Greece committed atrocities against aromanians. That is a fact. But Greece was the last country to close the Romanian schools for Aromanians in 1945.The other Balkan countries closed the schools earlier than this date. It was Romania's fault to let us perish like that during the period of Comunism in the Balkans (Albania, Bulgaria, Serbia = Comunist countries). Ceausescu could have cooperated with the former communist governments of the former communist countries to reopen Romanian schools for Aromanians and spare us from assimilation. But no, nothing was done and now we are on the verge of assimilation. It is Romanias' fault first, then the other countries' fault second. Aromanians played an important role because they rejected Romania. That was the biggest mistake we ever made and it will result in our total assimilation, no matter how hard we try. Most of us were and will be assimilated from the Greeks because that is the country were most Aromanians live. It is the harsh reality. We have to accept it. Bolt Escargot (talk) 04:19, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
And i have also a quastion! Why the website arumun.com did write the articles in albanian and in romanian (exept of 2-3 articles in aromanian)?! We have our own language. You told me that aromanian is only a dialect of romanian, ok, and why the website arumun.com did not write it in our dialect? MacedoRoman (talk) 04:21, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
If everybody from us teaches the language to the children, we don't assimilate! When we tell to our children that we are aromanians, they will know it! If we don't fight we lose, but if we fight, maybe we keep our indetity! We must try something! MacedoRoman (talk) 04:24, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Tou tell me that nothing is done, but also today we don't make nothing! MacedoRoman (talk) 04:25, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
If you don't fight for yourself, nobody will fight for you! We must fight! We are still alive! MacedoRoman (talk) 04:31, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
I am the author of the pages "Dimãndarea Pãrinteascã", "Aromanians in Albania" and "Aromanians in Greece" and i saw that you also have worked there! MacedoRoman (talk) 04:48, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
I told you, if every aromanian was like me, we were not here now! MacedoRoman (talk) 04:50, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
If we work together, we can do something! It is not te late, because we are still existing! MacedoRoman (talk) 04:53, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
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