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AfC notification: Draft:Stubborn Love (Kathy Troccoli album) has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Stubborn Love (Kathy Troccoli album). Thanks! SwisterTwister talk 04:46, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Stubborn Love (Kathy Troccoli album) (December 19)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by ProgrammingGeek was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

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ProgrammingGeek (Page! • Talk! • Contribs!) 01:06, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Jwsinteractive, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! ProgrammingGeek (Page! • Talk! • Contribs!) 01:06, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Stubborn Love (Kathy Troccoli album) (December 31)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

No reliable sources that are independent of the topic

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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KylieTastic (talk) 18:16, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Stubborn Love (Kathy Troccoli album) concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Stubborn Love (Kathy Troccoli album), a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

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AfC notification: Draft:Stubborn Love (Kathy Troccoli album) has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Stubborn Love (Kathy Troccoli album). Thanks! Legacypac (talk) 02:24, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Stubborn Love (Kathy Troccoli album) has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Stubborn Love (Kathy Troccoli album). Thanks! Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:37, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Stubborn Love (Kathy Troccoli album) (September 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Zawl was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

It doesn't meet WP:GNG and/or WP:NALBUMS. Notability is not inherited. There shouldn't be an article for the album merely because the artist is notable. Those commenting that it kickstarted her career, have failed to verify their statements. Even so, there's no guideline or policy supporting that. WP:GNG is not met because there are no significant coverage of reliable sources that are independent of the topic. WP:NALBUMS should be interpreted stringently the same as the BLP guideline. It wouldn't be appropriate to lower the bar just because it's the number one album (unverified) or because it made her famous. I also don't see the album meeting wP:NALBUMS which states that an album "requires its own notability, and that notability is not inherited and requires independent evidence". A recording is not the same as an album and it is written that the recording guideline is specific to recordings only. Whether or not it still has radio play, is unaffected by the WP:NALBUM guideline. The specific album guideline requires it to pass WP:GNG or appear on any country's national music chart, which I don't think has happened per WP:GOODCHARTS.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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— Za wl 09:13, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Stubborn Love (Kathy Troccoli album) concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Stubborn Love (Kathy Troccoli album), a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

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If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available at WP:REFUND/G13.

Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:31, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Stubborn Love (Kathy Troccoli album)

Hello, Jwsinteractive. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Stubborn Love".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 02:01, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:CAPS

Hi. Your recent move of Door into Summer was incorrect. While they spell the title as "Door Into Summer", Wikipedia's rules of capitalization differ from theirs. Prepositions with fewer than five characters are not to be capitalized in titles, and it appears to me as though "into" is being used that way. For instance Amy Grant's House of Love album (and single) is (are) spelled as "House Of Love" (such as at http://www.topchristianhits.org/christian_music_albums_1990s.html) but you can see how Wikipedia has capitalized it. Smitty's album uses the same manual of style: Live the Life. I could give you further examples if you would like. I have nominated the original page that is now a redirect for deletion and requested that the page be moved back. It's easy to move an article to a new destination but more difficult if there's something at the target. I hope you don't mind. Feel free to discuss either here or on the band article's talk page or the album article's talk page. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:39, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the reason behind the reverts and will freely admit that I jumped the gun on moving the page. Sorry if it caused you much trouble in getting it moved back. That said, while I understand the MOS's position on it, I personally disagree that titles should be changed when the official version is clearly defined. In short, style shouldn't trump correctness. But I'll grant that, in some case, the official title may very well have been a victim of the original publisher's own style guide and is, therefore, a matter of taste. Thus, I will gladly defer on the edits to Door.

It's not at all so cut and dried, however, when the stated - or simply obvious - intent of the artist goes against the MOS. For example, the Ee_cummings article certainly doesn't follow MOS:CAPS when referencing the titles of some of his works because it was Cummings' specific intent to have them rendered in lowercase. I ask this not to be argumentative but in sincerity since I just received confirmation from Trevor McNevan that I AM THE STORM should, indeed, be rendered in all caps as should the title of the EP, FIGHT MUSIK, VOL. 1. Is the WP stance that it doesn't matter? Curious. LorenLang (talk) 12:55, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]