User talk:Llanimami2
November 2016
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Your recent editing history at Gibraltar shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 17:45, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Thomas.W Mate, I'm not edit warring. What you on about? I'm just editing the article and also trying to help you guys reach consensus. I'm reading through the entire article and editing as I go along.Llanimami2 (talk) 17:47, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
- Yes you are edit-warring (see WP:3RR), as I'm sure you well know, since you're obviously not a new user. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 17:56, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
I noticed your recent edit which was inserting a mention of decolonization into the first paragraph of the lead. Given the past disputes, some people might consider this provocative. Please be aware that there have been many past discussions about this article. At Talk:Gibraltar there are 24 archive files; the Gibraltar page is watched by 423 people. In the event that a new revert war breaks out at Gibraltar, some admins like myself are likely to intervene. It is better for you to wait for consensus if you are planning to make any changes to the article lead that could be controversial. If a war heats up again, it is possible that the sanctions from Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gibraltar could be restored. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 17:53, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
EdJohnston What you talking about, Ed? I didn't include that text, it was already there. Its provocative to me as a Gibraltarian, yes. It pisses us off that we are still listed for decolonization by the UN, yes. That's why I tried to present a more balanced sentence in lead including Gibraltarian position hoping these guys wouldn't kick off an edit war again. I think you kinda misread the situation, buddy. I was just trying to help. Seems I'm getting punched in the face for it, thanks.Llanimami2 (talk) 18:03, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
- The above diff speaks for itself. There you are, putting the language in the first paragraph. Your protestations would be more convincing if you would wait for consensus on the talk page. We can always go back to keeping the article under full protection and then waiting for edit requests to make any needed changes. EdJohnston (talk) 21:16, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
- EdJohnston Ed, your accusations would be far more convincing if you had bothered to read the talk page and if you weren't having a go at a Gibraltarian for making anti-Gibraltar edits. Llanimami2 (talk) 04:08, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
- I'm acting as an administrator, so I'm not required to have an opinion about the content. It was good that you joined the talk page at Talk:Gibraltar#Lead but it seems you did not find resounding support there. Some people wanted you to open an RfC but you declined. You are feeling punished for trying to be helpful, but this article has been the scene of bitter fighting in the past, so I don't think you should get your hopes up. EdJohnston (talk) 04:49, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
- EdJohnston Ed, your accusations would be far more convincing if you had bothered to read the talk page and if you weren't having a go at a Gibraltarian for making anti-Gibraltar edits. Llanimami2 (talk) 04:08, 23 November 2016 (UTC)