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Your submission at Articles for creation: Lili + Mila's Empawrium (June 10)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Liliandmila! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Lili + Mila's Empawrium

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Lili + Mila's Empawrium, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This page is not intended for advertisement. I understand that you are requesting the page be written as fact so we have removed anything that could be construde as persuasive language. With this page we intend to highlight the history of the business and the growth in a factual sense (using case studies like Marks & Spencers). We are trying to provided factual information on the film value to the location with the dates and filming of the location. Please let us know if there is anything else that you would suggest adding. Liliandmila (talk) 13:31, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 2024

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "Liliandmila", may not comply with our username policy. Please note that you may not use a username that represents the name of a company, group, organization, product, service, or website. Examples of usernames that are not allowed include "XYZ Company", "MyWidgetsUSA.com", and "Foobar Museum of Art". However, you are permitted to use a username that contains such a name if it identifies you individually (not your role), such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87", but not "SEO Manager at XYZ Company".

Please also note that Wikipedia does not allow accounts to be shared by multiple people and that you may not advocate for or promote any company, group, organization, product, service, or website, regardless of your username. Please also read our paid editing policy and our conflict of interest guideline. If you are a single individual and are willing to contribute to Wikipedia in an unbiased manner, please request a change of username by completing the form at Special:GlobalRenameRequest, choosing a username that complies with our username policy. Alternatively, you can just create a new account and use that for editing. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. Thank you. -- MacAddct1984 ^{(talk | contribs)} 11:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because it has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Also, your username gives the impression that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or web site, which is against the username policy.

If you intend to make useful contributions instead of promoting your business or organization, you may request unblock and a username change. In your reasons, you must:

Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the paid-contribution disclosure requirement; and
Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked; and
Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked; and
Provide a new username.

To do this, post the text {{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked.

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This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Lisa Marie Hall (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

Lisa Marie Hall (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

My Nickname is Lili + My Dog Mila (this is my username for most things) - I understand you have seen this as our business name so I have changed it to my personal name Liliandmila (talk) 13:27, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Consider carefully if you want to use your real name as your username; if so, that would be acceptable. You haven't said what edits you will make instead of editing about your business. 331dot (talk) 15:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Lisa Marie Hall (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

Lisa Marie Hall (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

Liliandmila (talk) 13:27, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Consider carefully if you want to use your real name as your username; if so, that would be acceptable. You haven't said what edits you will make instead of editing about your business. 331dot (talk) 15:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fine with my own name

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I have spent the last few hours adding facts to the Land of Green Ginger page and tried to create a new page for Lili + Mila's Empawrium (a destination location). While my shop is a shop this is not an advertisement it is to add facts about the business and the filming location.

All of my work has been totally undone in the click of a button. The Land of Green Ginger had a photo of a hairdressers on it (our current location) so we updated this. We also added really interesting history about its role in filming sets. This is now all lost unless it can be retrieved from your side.

I have had three rejections, my name, my posts and now being blocked. I am not sure if these comments are going anywhere but please can someone review and understand the aim is to educate. Liliandmila (talk) 13:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Unfortunately you've managed to raise just about every red flag there is, hence why you're finding it such tough going. Let me explain where it went wrong, in case you manage to get yourself unblocked.

Firstly, if you're going to write about your business... don't. It is very difficult, if not indeed impossible, for any of us to write in a purely neutral, non-promotional manner about something close to us.

If you're still going to go ahead, the first thing you must do is disclose your conflict of interest, see WP:COI and WP:PAID.

You also shouldn't pick a username which suggests clear connection with the business you're writing about.

Any sort of promotion is not allowed on Wikipedia. And before you say "I wasn't promoting anything", well... yes, you were. You were telling the world about your business, and that is pretty much the definition of promotion, see WP:YESPROMO.

We have no interest in what you want to say about your business. We only want to hear what independent and reliable secondary sources (newspapers, magazines, TV and radio programmes, etc.) have said about your business, without any enticement or prompting by you. Therefore the way to compose a Wikipedia article is to start by finding a few (3-5) sources that meet the WP:GNG standard for notability, summarise their coverage, and cite them as sources against the information they have provided.

Notability is a core requirement for inclusion in the encyclopaedia. So much so that if you cannot find sufficient sources meeting the GNG standard, then you cannot summarise them, and cannot therefore write an article.

And even if such sources do exist, it shouldn't be you writing about your business; it should be someone with no connection to you or the business, ideally without you even knowing about this.

HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:58, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Double Grazing, Thank you for your message. I have submitted a change of name to Lisa Marie Hall. In terms of disclosing a potential conflict of interest I would simply used the following template {{connected contributor}}. I think adding my text about my business has caused a major issue and while it was not intended to promote I can see why in even mentioning that is promoting it. I understand my business is of no interest and that will not be added. I had zero sources in my original submission which is why I have been crucified. I have 3-5 sources that meet the WP:GNG standards for the film information which is what I had added. I have spoken to the help desk and they have advised the format would be as follows; Hull has been the filming location for movies such as <movie 1>[citation] and <movie 2>[citation]. The information provided was added without citation. I can see where I went wrong. Liliandmila (talk) 15:01, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I now realise I forgot to say another thing: stick to the topic. If your draft is about your business, then only talk about your business, not Hull more generally, or even about the street where your shop is located, because those are different topics. You can probably find newspaper articles etc. about Hull as a filming location, but that won't help make your shop notable if those articles mention the shop only in passing or not at all. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:10, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I understand. I have submitted a name change request are you able to approve this? Liliandmila (talk) 16:38, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Lisa Marie Hall (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

Lisa Marie Hall (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

I am happy to change my name to my name and I want to add information about the filming relating to the land of green ginger

Decline reason:

This would seem likely to be a conflict of interest. Yamla (talk) 21:29, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]