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Editing Ettiquette

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Sorry! Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by TrEeMaNsHoE (talkcontribs) 22:06, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Use preview

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your edit(s) to Doll Domination, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, reduces edit conflicts, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thank you. either way (talk) 14:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your note to me

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Huh? As best as I can tell, I have not edited Fantasy Ride prior to your note to me and I use an edit summary >99% of the time. —Justin (koavf)TCM21:59, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Diffs for fantasy ride

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You were asked to provide diffs on WP:AN3. Is there any reason you haven't?—Kww(talk) 19:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are two reasons that this isn't a valid speedy nomination:

  1. There are only two criteria for which an article can be speedied for lack of indication of notabality and neither apply here:
    • A7: This only applies to "real person, an organization (e.g. band, club, company, etc., except schools), or web content". This article is not about any of these so this criteria can not apply.
    • A9: This only applies "where the artist's article does not exist". We have an article on Ciara so this criteria doesn't apply either.
  2. According to deletion policy "If there is a dispute over whether a page meets the criteria, the issue is typically taken to deletion discussions, mentioned below" - there is clearly a dispute over whether the page meets notabality requirements as there has been keep votes at AfD therefore speedy is inappropiate.

Dpmuk (talk) 22:11, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your comment on the dicussion page for Like a Surgeon. I have been trying to get it re-opened. It will most likely be opened soon, because it has charted. It is listed on WP:RFPP under articles for unprotection if you want to add a coment. ----TrEeMaNsHoE (talk) 21:39, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The page has now been unprotected. The cover has been confirmed, but confused on how to upload a file, I was wondering if you could upload it. ----TrEeMaNsHoE (talk) 14:16, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Alive" cover

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Why did you upload the cover for the Black Eyed Peas song "Alive" twice?--Totie (talk) 12:05, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

sorry the second one doesnt show up in the article properly. so the only way i could get it to show up has to upload it on a new page. i think it was something to do with the title of the latter. i tried to move the image but couldn't.

Pussycat Dolls

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Please provide some rationale as to why you believe that the Pussycat Dolls article have too many sections. What sections are superfluous? Why haven't you made any attempt to fix this? Do you see any two sections in the PCD article that would be better if they were combined? Are there any Wikipedia guidelines that places a limit on the number of sections? Sections should be appropriate to the article itself, and can range from 31 sections to a mere 12 sections in PCD. There is no limit, and unless you can give a definite rationale, nothing needs to be done to the PCD article. Orane (talk) 21:31, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:LSM (download cover).jpg

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Thank you for uploading File:LSM (download cover).jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this file on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the file description page and adding or clarifying the reason why the file qualifies under this policy. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your file is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a non-free use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for files used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.

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Disputed non-free use rationale for File:LSM (uk cover).JPG

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Thank you for uploading File:LSM (uk cover).JPG. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this file on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the file description page and adding or clarifying the reason why the file qualifies under this policy. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your file is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a non-free use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for files used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.

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Undefeated

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The normal standard is title, release date, and tracklist. Nothing at all wrong with using a bit of patience until all of that information is available.—Kww(talk) 04:37, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:LSM (download cover).jpg listed for deletion

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An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:LSM (download cover).jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. — Σxplicit 18:35, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Seacrest/Nicole interview

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Hello, please stop adding back the 'featuring Nicole Schzinger' info on the hush hush article....nicole does not mention anything about it in the Ryan Seacrest interview......here is the link for the interview [1]........... Tubeyoumania (talk) 10:17, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Record labels

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As per WikiProject_Albums#Infobox, only frontline labels are indicated. In the case of Fantasy Ride, the label is LaFace which is part of the Zomba Label Group, but we only indicate the frontline label. Zomba a couple of weeks ago went through restructuring and some rebranding, and zomba label group is now jive label group and its management has been merged with rca music group to form rca/jive label group. This is probably why some people have added jive records and rca records to the label entry (because they read rca/jive label group in the fine print). The label entry box should be free of legal and corporate structures such as these, just the pure label that markets the recordings and to which the artist is signed should be indicated, which for Ciara is Laface. As for the Sony Music label, well that is the global parent company and there is absolutely no reason to put that in (doing so would mean that 1/4 of the world's pop artists on wiki be marked sony music- it's very redundant and against wikiproject albums.) Imperatore (talk) 00:09, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Like a Surgeon

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According to Wikipedia guidelines, the intro is correct. Charmed36 (talk) 01:43, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here it is. Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs At the bottom, there is a section for models for the music articles. Charmed36 (talk) 01:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Hush Hush

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I noticed that you have been deleting Global Dance Tracks and Hot Dance Club Play off of the Hush Hush page, but I just wanted to point out that Hot Dance Club Play and Global Dance Tracks are on all of the other Pussycat Dolls singles pages and have been acceptable there for a long time now. No other component charts are there and these are credible and decently important charts, especially because PCD is a dance act. I just thought think those listings are worthy of staying. Yeahboyyy (talk) 15:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could you add your opinion to the talk page? I want to settle this now.--Totie (talk) 17:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

component charts

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Please don't refer to WP:BADCHARTS when removing a component chart. Component charts are allowed if the song did not chart on the main chart (i.e., if the song charted 98 on "Hot 100 Airplay", but did not chart on the "Hot 100", then you can include "Hot 100 Airplay" in the chart list). This rule is contained in WP:Record charts. Component and airplay charts from valid providers are not listed in WP:BADCHARTS.—Kww(talk) 13:52, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please review WP:BADCHARTS, and show me where component charts are mentioned.—Kww(talk) 17:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

reply

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the problem with the section is, it'a futre album, with no verifiable cites for confirmed tracks, and if you read wikipedia guideelines, rumored tracks, and tracks supposedely recorded for the album are not acceptable in article factuality, it makes the article look more like a fansite and not an encyclopedic wikipedia page. I've had the arguement a few times in the past in support of 'recorded tracks' and 'rumored tracks' on such future album articles, the administrators won't budge on it, and after time editting on wikipedia, I now agree with such decisions. I'm also not the first to revert that section. Alankc (talk) 00:46, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Brazil

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Release dates and certifications for Brazil can be sourced, so they are OK. The only reason we don't accept Brazilian charts is because there aren't any that meet standards. If someone came up with a genuine Brazilian chart, it would be fine to incluse it.—Kww(talk) 16:49, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your question

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I'll look over your edits later today ... I'm about to leave for the afternoon. As for your first question: it's OK if you can find a reliable source that says "artist x recorded track y for album z" explicitly. No "rumored", no "thought to be for album z", no "thought to be named y". If it's explicit, direct, and complete, it's OK to include.—Kww(talk) 17:05, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked it over, and I'm not at all happy with the article. "Diamonds" is the only properly sourced track, and the bulk of the article seems to be speculation about things that may or may not actually ever occur. I'd redirect the whole thing to the artist, and put a small paragraph in the artist's article about it.—Kww(talk) 21:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Elope

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Hi again. I understand your frustration, but I am reverting most (not all) of your revisions because you are completely changing the meanings of several sections. Also, I do not see what you believe to be repeated information. Here are some of the issues with your revision:

  • You changed a sentence to "Milian believed her budget was cut", which is never stated in the source.
  • You keep on adding a "context" subheading, but that gives absolutely no information as to what information is under the heading. "Context" could mean anything. I don't understand why you keep adding it.
  • You wrote, "Under Myspace, Milian collaborated with....", but not all the sources say she was with MySpace at the time.
  • Twitter is not a reliable source, and I'm pretty sure that's not even hers; it's a fake.

Anyways, I undid your revision, but I changed the article somewhat to make it more "consistent", as you said. Corn.u.co.piaDisc.us.sion 05:44, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Restoring contested prods

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I noticed you recently restored a prod that was removed with the rationale that the person removing the prod didn't adequately explain themselves. This is completely improper, as one is not even required to provide ANY reason for removal. Please read through WP:Proposed deletion for confirmation of this fact. Thank you, ThaddeusB (talk) 16:57, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding "Ms. Keri" Mixtape

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The mixtape information you added on Keri's wikipedia page is misleading. Keri or her label is not releasing a mixtape, and since it is not an official release, the mixtape information should not be included on Keri's Wiki page. The mixtape leaked months prior to the release of "In A Perfect World..." and once again, Keri or her label, Interscope, had nothing to do with it. Songs such as "Promise in the Dark", "Control Me" and "What Channel" aren't even Keri or demos for the people they are listed as. Keri also recently referenced "Love Ya" as being a song she would like to include on the re-release of 'Perfect World', so the chances of this mixtape being put out by Keri is also shot down by that.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ms-Keri-Hilson/dp/B002GIYYP6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1248589839&sr=8-1

On the page for the mixtape, it is being released by "101 Distributions" which is an independent label primarily used for Mixtape releases. Check it out yourself, http://www.101distribution.com/index.cfm.

Please don't add the Mixtape section back to Keri's wikipedia page, thanks. --Stephen1108 (talk) 17:24, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

July 2009

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on In a Perfect World.... Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Please work with the other editor you're in dispute with by using the article's talk page or their talk page or risk being blocked for edit warring. Nja247 20:24, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Editing Style

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Please can i ask you not to use language like "who the hell..." which could be seen as profane and offensive to other users. I am aware that critical reception is advised to be written in prose but wikipedia's album (WP:albums) is full of guidelines and there are lots of different guidelines/acceptable formats.

(Lil-unique1 (talk) 13:25, 29 July 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Sorry if you're offended. The comment was not aimed at anyone in particular. I just got very frustrated. (WP:albums) lists various styles, but none of them state or imply that every review should be separated from each other in difference paragraphs. It's poor English, poor writing (esp. when it looks like this, with a single sentence listed independently as a paragraph for no reason). We don't want this trend spreading to other articles. Orane (talk) 15:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please aim for something like this, as opposed to this. It looks more professional, it's less choppy and disjointed, and the prose flows. Orane (talk) 16:17, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Exposed - Kristinia DeBarge Album

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Writing it as "Sabotage/Future Love" gives off the impression that they're being released to radio as a combined song. The songs may have been released as a double A-side, but the fact is that they are separate songs, released to separate radio formats (one to pop radio, one to R&B).

If you report me and somehow manage to actually get me blocked, you will most likely get blocked as well. You're in as much of an edit war as I am, so don't try to act like you're so innocent. Pokerdance (talk/contribs) 20:35, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Same with Leona - they weren't released as a combined song. One article's error should not justify an error on another article.
Just because I say true things that you don't want to hear, it doesn't make what I'm saying profane or disruptive. If you're going to get your feelings hurt over everything anyone says, then maybe you don't need to use the Internet. There are a lot ruder people than me out here. Pokerdance (talk/contribs) 22:19, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You're the one who cannot seem to calm down... I'm not doing anything that is against Wikipedia policies, but your overreaction is bordering on assuming bad faith, which is against Wikipedia policies.

File:Fantasy ride uk cover.jpg listed for deletion

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An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:Fantasy ride uk cover.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. — Σxplicit 20:14, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ciara discography

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I appreciate what you've done with the singles, but thats how the album is supposed to look, and it took a long time to find all of those certifications so could you please change it back.--68.79.92.155 (talk) 23:59, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

November 2008

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  1. Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did to Fantasy Ride, is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources, please take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 22:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Please do not add content without citing reliable sources, as you did to Fantasy Ride. Before making potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources please take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 22:29, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Please do not add unsourced or original content, as you did to Human (Brandy album). Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 00:48, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i did use reliable sources....!

Revert on Fantasy Ride

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"nite nite twitterville! i can tell u that one of my videos is work and u will know what the second video is may 25th!! xoxox!" -Ciara

There is your proof, and it doesn't "assume" anything. If this (a twitter post from Ciara herself) doesn't make it clearer what the next single is, then I don't know what does. And here is also a single cover for the next single, which happens to be "Work". You finally have legit evidence of the next single choice, so there should no longer be any confusion or misconceptions anywhere along the lines of this issue.




Being that you claim that some of the fans don't have the album, wouldn't you think that it would only make sense for someone who DOES have the album to post information that they obviously don't have the opportunity to see???? Am I the only one who finds this reasoning sensible??? I posted the proof of the album production and if you REALLY DID have the album yourself, then this whole issue wouldn't even be a subject solely for the fact that you would've seen the producers (executive, track, AND vocal) on the album inserts for yourself. Like I have stated before, obviously I am only here to be an asset to wikipedia and not a disruption or a pain for no reason (as you have been to me as of late over something so small, pointless, and petty.) My additions aren't hurting the page, just adding more incite. I have done what you asked and offered citation and proof, and my "extremely minor" changes to this page are valid. So if you are finally tired of pointlessly going back and forth just as I am tired of this and have been for a while now, I would appreciate it if we can end this now.



Instead of "billboard" citation, I have posted the ACTUAL album inserts and as you can see, Kuk Harrell is vocal producer of each of the songs produced by either Christopher Stewart, Carlos McKinney, or Terius Nash. Jim Beanz is the vocal producer/engineer who works in conjunction with Nate Hills, Marcella Araica, N. Washington, or Timothy Mosley. Being that "vocal" engineers and producers are considered 'producers' for a track, their name should remain on the tracklisting. If you refer to their individual wikipedia site and take note of the collaborative work with other writers and producers, you will see that other artists, like Beyonce and Britney Spears have their vocal producers noted on their album's tracklistings for the work done by Kuk Harrell and Jim Beamz respectively (Search Britney Spears' albums, "Blackout" and "Circus" as well as Beyonce's album "I Am...Sasha Fierce", where the producer is referred to as "Thaddius Harrell", his actual name). Now that there is a reference, there is absolutely no reason that there should be any further dispute on whether or not these producers should remain. As I have said before, I am clearly not here to disruptively alter or reconstruct this page. I am here to amend and make any possible and "positive" additions where I see fit. And what better way to do that than with the actual ALBUM INSERT?



The last time I checked, none of your added producer's names NOR the way that you post them are cited either. If you look on other album wikipedia pages you will see that the producer's "stage" names are posted, NOT the producer's government name. And it is pretty contradictory that only HALF of the producer's names are stage names and half are not. You have "Carlos McKinney" and "Christopher Stewart" in one hand, yet in the other you have "Dr. Luke" and "Polow da Don"??? What's the point??? And as you can see, I am editing the page just like you are and obviously I am not disruptively editing anything. My edits are constructive and because its not the way that YOU want the page to look doesn't mean that you should delete it and you are not in the position to threaten me.

Who are you to tell me that my edits have to be cited when you clearly don't cite your edits as well. You say you got your edits from Billboard.com??? Well I have the ACTUAL ALBUM, and things can't get more legit than that. And my latest additions to the tracklistings, like vocal producers "Kuk Harrell" and "Jim Beanz", are stated in the actual album packaging and there is no reason their names shouldn't remain there. Why are you going through so much and giving me such a hard time when I am obviously only trying to improve the page. It's not at all like I am posting disruptive or obscene content. Relax.




Hi Lil-unique1, I've left a response to your question on my user page -- Marek.69 talk 00:48, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to Wikipedia guidelines, it is not, so don't shoot the messenger. Charmed36 (talk) 00:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fantasy Ride track isting is on the page. Look!

I did'nt write that work would be the third single. All I did was highlight everything that said work, so that it would go to its page Stop changing the tracklisting format.

Please consider your edits in co-ordinance with WP:albums, it is not appropriate for tables to be used when there is not enough information to fill them. Tracklist tables SHOULD NOT contain duplicated information. Your edits deliberately go against wikipedia rules and to get your own way (as you dont have enough information to fill the table) you are writing the same people in the production and writers columns. I would like to know what your sources are for the track-listing considering the official album booklet is not available yet? (Lil-unique1 (talk) 19:55, 25 April 2009 (UTC))[reply]

I didn't add producers or writers. I just reinstated the box.

I know you know a lot about the policies of wikipedia. Could you fix the reception article for fantasy ride. (TrEeMaNsHoE (talk) 19:10, 4 May 2009 (UTC))[reply]

You might be right, somehow I consider this my work, but that's just because I'm the only trying to make this look anywhere near a featured article - and not a webpage full of single informations. I've tend to revert most edits because they are either unsourced or pure speculation ("she says 'Piano Man' will be the next single"), and since this article has been started, I barely noticed anyone using the reflist template or capital and small initial letters. I'm no native speaker, so I really need help with grammar etc - and I'd like to see some help when it comes to this or other improvements. - Noboyo (By the way: You never see something like a SINGLES section on any featured article like Love. Angel. Music. Baby. or the like.)

Sorry, but there's absolutly nothing "high profile" about Doll Domination etc. Those articles are neitherfeatured articles, nor are they well-sourced or use reflist templates to fit WP standards. You should take a look at Love. Angel. Music. Baby or Dangerously in Love to see what a great album article has to look like. - Noboyo
Well, the point on Dangerously in Love is, that all information about the singles is put in an informative Release and Promotion section - and not just into four sentences for each single. - Noboyo 18:01, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Name.ext listed for deletion

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I think a digital cover is just a prominent as the physical cover as it accounts for over 96% of the market - Jayy008 20:55, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Brandy etc.

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Sorry, but the way you edit is unacceptable.

  1. Removing comments on talk pages is vandalism! I you don't like it ignore it, but DO NOT remove edits!
  2. Once again: There are guidelines on Wikipedia to create a uniform appearance for all articles - and Human really should be an example! I like the look of the templates but they do NOT fit the guidelines!

Please, accept his! - Noboyo

  1. first of all... i didnt remove comments from the talk page. atleast not deliberately altho i did add a reply.
  2. secondly guidelines are exactly what they say... they are GUIDES!!! to writing a good article not NECESSARILY the exact way of doing it. There is nothing wrong with the table format. I've monitored your handling of the Brandy page for the last month or so and you have been consistantly heavy handed.
  3. you have undone changes by numerous wiki editors. the article does not belong to you, wikipedia is for the public to use and therefore i should be able to make edits like anyone else. if wiki has a problem with the table format for tracklistings then it would not allow them at all. many albums have them, you have even agreed that you like the template. what's the problem then?
  4. you just dont want to accept the edit because it wasnt done by you, you cant accept that another user had a good idea for an article.

2nd post

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1. If you did not deliberately edit it's okay, but it actually looked like as you did just remove my comment.
2. WP:Albums says "you should feel free to personalize an article as you see fit, though others may change it to fit our standards." A template for the track listings is no standard on Wikipedia. This has been discussed before on the WP:Albums talk page ... Once again: I want this article to be an example! But even if I like the look of templates (I actually created tracklisting templates too in my earlier days on here), I do accept the fact, that it's not the standard requested on here.
3. I accept any good idea as long as it matches the guidelines of quality (!) and has a reliable source. I'm aware that I do not own this article. That would be laughable.

Regarding In A Perfect World... and "Get Your Money Up"

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I understand that I am using my own Youtube channel, but the information on the Youtube page came from an official source, Keri herself. If one would watch the video, they would see that Keri herself confirms the single choice, therefore it should be a reliable source.

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She Wolf

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I didnt try to delete it :s i was trying to change the column name to co-writter instead of writter and when i hit save it dissapeared... because the way it was before it didnt make it sound like she had anything to do with the songs. sorry. if u dont mind im going to add shakira's name to each box instead.Emijomo89(talk) 26 September 2009

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after dna and untitled are released im changing the tracklist layouts back

-cubfan789


yeah whatever...im still doing it. you have a superiority complex. you do things just to be in control. i do things because i like pages to be clear, understandable, and aesthetically appealing.

side note: the wp:albums quote you were talking about, "A track listing should generally be formatted as a numbered list" was written in april of 2007. the tracklist template wasnt even around until february 2008! so stop going around acting like youre improving wikipedia, cuz you arent.



you just confirmed my original statement :)

and i will be fixing that dangerously in love article

I Want to Know What Love Is

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Why did you re-highlight Belgium? It's not needed.

I Want to Know What Love Is

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Please STOP putting a CD release for the UK. There isn't one Digital Spy means DIGITAL DOWNLOAD! Unless it's on the HMV website or Amazon UK no CD release exists!! the album is out tomorrow!

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Make Me

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Ok, but does not provide ABPD charts in your site.Mas it provides sites and site record BRAZIL HOT 100. And this single is in position 15 of the TOP 30 CHART DANCE. In another case, for example in the album "I Am ... Sasha Fierce" was only available on the website HOT 100 (this album was certified Diamond).

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MariahHateU

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Are you serious??..thats my point...since it already can be downloaded seperatley when the album was released in September, why would they wanna release it for download again in November?.......thats how all the second/third/forth singles are.....look at Already Gone, it only has an airplay relase date of Agust 11, 2009...and you didnt say anything about it..like i said why would they release it for digital download again in August, when it can be dowloaded seperartley from the album.........


Fan sites

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Please take the time to review and understand WP:RS. Fansites are not reliable, and cannot be used to source information in Wikipedia.—Kww(talk) 16:05, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Leona Lewis

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I have provided a source here. Dynablaster (talk) 00:09, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keri Hilson - Quicksand

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http://www.amazon.com/In-A-Perfect-World/dp/B001XJV5Z6/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1237677710&sr=1-6

There is the source, I have been adding Quicksand, now will you please leave it intact? Danja is obviously the producer, and I also have a source for that too, but cannot find it at the moment.

Thats fine. Please dont use an offensive or menacing tone. i simply meant that the article has had many false tracklistings and i am trying to make sure that only factual information is kept. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 23:25, 21 March 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Hi

I'm going to assume you had the best intentions when you made this edit, but I've reverted you - your edit changed, for example, "Leona Lewis" to "Leona Leona". Additionally, the idea is that we try and maintain a neutral point of view - we shouldn't, for example, refer to thearticle's subject by her firstname, as that implies familiarity and is inappropriate for an encyclopaedia - it makes the article read like a fansite, whereas the idea is to make it sound like it was written by a completely impartial (neutral) editor.

Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 21:45, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually refering to her by her last name is more like a fansite and less like an encylopedia as the previous editor pointed out. and the leona leona thing was one slight error (Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:47, 23 March 2009 (UTC))[reply]
Which "last editor"? And as has been pointed out below, your view regarding the use of first names is very much a contrarian one. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 22:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
sorry i stand corrected. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:05, 23 March 2009 (UTC))[reply]
No problem! Though I must admit, I'm trying hard to think of even one fansite where they refer to their subject by surname! Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 22:20, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Use of last names in Bio articles

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Please see Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(biographies)#Subsequent_uses_of_names. Mfield (talk) 21:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are a little confused. While "The Soundz" might be the name of a production group, "Soundz" is just one man (Kenneth C. Coby). Since he always goes by just "Soundz", I changed the move. Hopefully this clears things up. Tom Danson (talk) 03:38, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. Please refer to the talk page regarding Billbaord references for both "Right Now (NBA version)" and "Top of the world". I have provided Billbaord references to show that both were released as commercial singles, not as promotional only. If you disgree then we need to find a Wikipedia consensus or policy on the defintion of a single. I don't see why such a definition would differ from Billboard as they are a credible reference and trusted source of data. Please discuss an talk page.--Design (talk) 01:12, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kara Dioguardi

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Hi there. Two very good sources of reliable songwriter info are ascap.com & bmi.com here is a link to BMI listing Kara Dioguardi's registration as a co-writer of "I Hate This Part", ensuring that she recieve's songwriter royalties. [2] regards--Design (talk) 05:26, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

License tagging for File:Fantasy Ride (deluxe).jpg

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License tagging for File:Fantasy Ride.jpg

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RE: Ciara Discography

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I would appreciate it if you would check who submits what on wikipedia before you accuse someone of putting on false information. I never entered anything regarding the chart success of Ciara's two songs (Go Girl and Never Ever). All I did was add in the nz chart success of her other song Love Sex Magic; it was someone else who added in the false information on the 31st March! If you compare edits you will see this. I would never intentionally graffiti any page with wrong information or facts. --Zurak26 (talk) 12:19, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for File:Nicole2008.jpg

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Nicole Scherzinger

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Hi Lil-unique1, can you please stop changing the current free image on the Nicole Scherzinger article with a fair-use one? See WP:NONFREE: fair-use images shouldn't be used to depict living people, and as I stated here, there is even less reason to use a fair-use image of a living person when we already have a free image already available. Can you please consider reverting yourself? I'm not interested in revert-warring over this, but image issues are very important. Thanks. Acalamari 16:25, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned non-free image (Image:Fantasy Ride (deluxe).jpg)

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Orphaned non-free image (Image:Fantasy Ride.jpg)

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Will you explain how you feel that article is too long, and what problems you have with its lead (intro)? Perhaps on its talk page? Simply tagging the article with the tags you did without explanation on the talk page will not solve your problems with it. Especially, when an editor tries to fix those problems you have with it and you add the tags back. I mean, think of it from our perspective: Are editors supposed to keep trying to figure out what problems you have with the article until you are satisfied with one of their edits? The article itself has not even yet suggested it be split, and there are other articles on Wikipedia of legendary singers far longer than Whitney Houston's.

If you do not explain what improvements you feel need to be made to the article in a way that you will be satisfied with, I will remove the tags you placed on the article. Flyer22 (talk) 17:55, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on my talk page, of course. Flyer22 (talk) 03:17, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed both tags based on WP:SIZE and the basic manuel of style amoung biographies of living people, since the article as of yet violates neither. According to WP:SIZE: For stylistic purposes, only the main body prose (excluding links, see also, reference and footnote sections, and lists/tables) should be counted, since the point is to limit the size of the main body of prose. What this means is that with an article that is 71 KB in size, propbably only half of that is what is actually read on screen; the extra data is the citations and footnotes.
According to Wikipedia:SIZE#No_need_for_haste: Do not take precipitous action the very instant an article exceeds 32 KB overall. There is no need for haste, and the readable prose size should be considered separately from references and other overhead. Discuss the overall topic structure with other editors. Determine whether the topic should be treated as several shorter articles and, if so, how best to organize them. Sometimes an article simply needs to be big to give the subject adequate coverage. Certainly, size is no reason to remove valid and useful information.
It may interest you to review Featured Articles such as Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, John Frusciante, and John Mayer as examples for biographies of living people (all of which are well over 32 KB). Most featured articles on wikipedia run about 60KB unless the subject is broad enough to require more, and with a subject like Whitney Houston as with other music legends, I believe once it is properly sourced, it may run over 80KB if it is ever promoted to FA. From what I can see, the only problem with Whitney Houston is a lack of sourcing with the information that is present in the article. It would be more benificial to the article to place [citation needed] tags next to sentences that are unsourced or dubious. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 00:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: The Fame

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First of all, please be civil, there's no need to write in all capitals. I can certainly state that my edits are in accordance with WP:ALBUM. You, however, appear to have missed a few points from WP:Albums#Track listing; it says, "Use a spaced en dash (–) rather than a hyphen (-) as a dividing horizontal punctuation mark before the track length", while you're using an em dash (—), and it's not mentioned anywhere in the page that songwriters should be placed between <small></small>. It should be noted that the guidelines from WP:Albums#Track listing apply for all albums, not only for hip hop albums. Just because a few album articles move away from those guidelines—like the ones you mentioned—it doesn't mean that all others should do the same. Funk Junkie (talk) 18:35, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They're not my own opinion, they're guidelines imposed by WP:ALBUM. Take a close look at the pattern presented in WP:Albums#Track listing (apart from the verses thing, it does apply for all albums):
  1. "Complete song title" (John Doe, Brian Smith) – 4:23
    • First verse: Name of rapper
    • Second verse: Name of rapper
    • Samples: Name of sample source (preferably including artist, song, and album)
  2. "Complete song title" (Doe, Kelly Kalamazoo) – 3:24
  3. "Complete song title" (Doe, Kalamazoo, Smith, David Whitman) – 2:34
As you can see, you should use an en dash (–), not an em dash (—) like you are doing, and songwriters are not supposed to be placed between <small></small>, not even if there happens to be a featured performer. As for writing Lady Gaga's name at the top, I believe it'll confuse readers because she co-wrote the songs with different people, not with a specific team. If she had written all the songs herself or with one particular person or with a specific team, then it would have been fine to state "All songs written by ... except where noted" at the top. (See Boys in the Trees, Joyful, and London Warsaw New York for a further insight.) Also, each edition has an explanatory paragraph, which may cause readers to miss the information that Gaga co-wrote all the songs. I hope I was able to make my point clearly. Funk Junkie (talk) 20:25, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

License tagging for File:Fantasy ride uk cover.jpg

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I have no criticism. I just saw your recent frustrated edit summary and hope you're not letting people on Wikipedia get to you. You try to establish order and keep things logical, but there's a "nation of millions" on WP that is apathetic about that at best. Hope you shake 'em off. Have a great day! — Souldier77 (talk) 01:50, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jay Sean Production credits

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why are you editing jay seans track production credits track listing? what sources are you referring to? as i said before, CONTACT THE RECORD LABEL. I know who produced the records, because I produced them. If you keep changing it, on the 23rd when the album comes out and you see at the production credits, youll see you just created alot of hassle and unnecessary confusion and annoyance for being misinformed. If anything the producers and features you have added (drake, polow da don) are based on hearsay and not on credible sources. stop editing and find another hobby

bobbybass —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbybass09 (talkcontribs) 14:28, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Busbee

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hello. regarding the credits on the Timabaland song "If We Ever Meet Again." i co-wrote it. and professionally, i am known simply as "busbee." not "Mike Busbee." i also co-wrote "Bad Boy" for Alexandra Burke. please edit re-undo your undo on the Timbaland credit to reflect that. Thank you kindly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4trak (talkcontribs) 04:57, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

thank you for your response. i understand you conceptually. except that on the record, i was only credited as "m. busbee" not "mike busbee." either way, that was a mistake by the label.

i sincerely appreciate your diligence for accuracy, i would just kindly request that you would consider that i simply go by "busbee" all the time...when i am producing, when i am writing...period. that is what my friends call me; that is what i am known as professionally. somehow the label was misinformed. as i mentioned, and as you will notice, on "Bad Boys," the label was properly informed and i was credited simply as "busbee," thank you for your help with this. happy holidays! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4trak (talkcontribs) 01:54, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jay Sean album

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Yo, Lil-unique1, I am one of Jay Sean's writers. Although we appreciate the deletion of 'Polow Da Don' as it comes up every time on his pages as he is definitely not a producer on the album, you also delete a lot of information that WE put there. In the future, please don't mess with any edits made by Bobbybass or Jperk219. J-Remy and Bobbybass are indeed the producers of most of 'All or Nothing', (Alan Sampson being the only exception), and the link to Bobbybass is indeed legitimate. Thanks! Hit me back on my Talk page if you feel the need. Sorry, I am not sure I am signing this correctly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jperk219 (talkcontribs) 13:55, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, go to Billboard magazine and look up the list of writers on 'Down' or 'Do You Remember' on the Billboard Hot 100, OR buy "Down" or "Do You Remember" on USA iTunes and click on 'Info'. You will see J. Perkins listed (me) along with J. Skaller (J-Remy), R. Larow (Bobbybass), Jay Sean, Jared Cotter and others as writers on these tracks. You will also see us credited on the album that will be released next Monday the 23rd. I will continue to change the information back. By the way, what source is telling you Polow Da Don produced anything on this album? Who/where is your source? ~~jperk219~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jperk219 (talkcontribs) 17:19, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Again, fine- just buy the album on Monday the 23rd and you'll see for yourself who has written and produced. This is ridiculous; we, as his producers and writers, want his fans to be able to look him up and get the correct information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jperk219 (talkcontribs) 01:01, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ciara image

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Hi, i was wondering if you could upload this image of ciara, because i dont know hw to. Source: http://www.rap-up.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/adidas-bond-2.jpg --TrEeMaNsHoE (talk) 23:21, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Battlefield

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Discogs does not mention it, he only wrote it. (link) RichV (talk) 18:54, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Battlefield

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I'm not sure about the UK R&B charts but the Australian Urban chart is just based on exact sales from the main sales chart but are ranked based on that genre. I would not think it was necessary to include this chart because it has already charted on the main chart. As Wikipedia:Record charts does not include the Australian Urban Chart. If we include this chart then it would also allow the "Australian Artist Chart" and "Dance Chart" to be included where it is not necessary because it has already charted on the main chart. FumblingTowardsEcstasy (talk) 15:16, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was just following the format from Wikipedia:Record charts, if it was an important chart to include, it would have been mentioned on there. There is no need to be rude. It does not matter how long a user has been editing on Wikipedia for, following the guidelines is the main focus. FumblingTowardsEcstasy (talk) 15:37, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, sounds good. FumblingTowardsEcstasy (talk) 15:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

[3] <-- That paragraph is copied & pasted from the source. Either paraphrase it, remove it, or we need to leave the quote box there. –xenotalk 23:12, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]