User talk:Legoktm/October 2021

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2021).

Administrator changes

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Oversighter changes

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Interface administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

Following an RfC, extended confirmed protection may be used preemptively on certain high-risk templates.
Following a discussion at the Village Pump, there is consensus to treat discord logs the same as IRC logs. This means that discord logs will be oversighted if posted onwiki.

Technical news

DiscussionTools has superseded Enterprisey's reply-link script. Editors may switch using the "Discussion tools" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features.

Arbitration

A motion has standardised the 500/30 (extended confirmed) restrictions placed by the Arbitration Committee. The standardised restriction is now listed in the Arbitration Committee's procedures.
Following the closure of the Iranian politics case, standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, post-1978 Iranian politics, broadly construed.
The Arbitration Committee encourages uninvolved administrators to use the discretionary sanctions procedure in topic areas where it is authorised to facilitate consensus in RfCs. This includes, but is not limited to, enforcing sectioned comments, word/diff limits and moratoriums on a particular topic from being brought in an RfC for up to a year.

Miscellaneous

Editors have approved expanding the trial of Growth Features from 2% of new accounts to 25%, and the share of newcomers getting mentorship from 2% to 5%. Experienced editors are invited to add themselves to the mentor list.
The community consultation phase of the 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process is open for editors to provide comments and ask questions to candidates.

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Tech News: 2021-40

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

A more efficient way of sending changes from Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis that show them has been enabled for the following 10 wikis: mediawiki.org, the Italian, Catalan, Hebrew and Vietnamese Wikipedias, French Wikisource, and English Wikivoygage, Wikibooks, Wiktionary and Wikinews. If you notice anything strange about how changes from Wikidata appear in recent changes or your watchlist on those wikis you can let the developers know.

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 October. It will be on all wikis from 7 October (calendar).
Some gadgets and bots that use the API to read the AbuseFilter log might break. The hidden property will no longer say an entry is implicit for unsuppressed log entries about suppressed edits. If your bot needs to know this, do a separate revision query. Additionally, the property will have the value false for visible entries; previously, it wasn't included in the response. [1]
A more efficient way of sending changes from Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis that show them will be enabled for all production wikis. If you notice anything strange about how changes from Wikidata appear in recent changes or your watchlist you can let the developers know.

Future changes

You can soon get cross-wiki notifications in the iOS Wikipedia app. You can also get notifications as push notifications. More notification updates will follow in later versions. [2]
The JavaScript variables wgExtraSignatureNamespaces, wgLegalTitleChars, and wgIllegalFileChars will soon be removed from mw.config. These are not part of the "stable" variables available for use in wiki JavaScript. [3]
The JavaScript variables wgCookiePrefix, wgCookieDomain, wgCookiePath, and wgCookieExpiration will soon be removed from mw.config. Scripts should instead use mw.cookie from the "mediawiki.cookie" module. [4]

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16:28, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

(former Unicode lowercase)

Hi Lego! Been ages. The close of T219279 resulted in the creation of 44 22 "(former Unicode lowercase)" titles. I assume these are cases where the corresponding uppercase title already existed. Can these safely be G6'd, or is there some purpose they serve? -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 20:12, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

I think it should be safe to G6 them as long as they both point at the same redirect target, and there's no useful history in the (former Unicode lowercase) version, in which a histmerge might make sense. Legoktm (talk) 20:17, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

@Tamzin: Maintenance script did delete the ones that already pointed to the same target. The ones that are left are ones where the uppercase and lowercase titles pointed to different targets, and someone needs to go through and decide which target is better. It looks like for most of them the uppercase titles go to ~~Osage (Unicode block)~~ Osage script and the lowercase titles go to Osage (Unicode block). In the example at RfD, the redirect originally targeted Osage (Unicode block), and then Gorobay incorrectly claimed it targeted Osage script when starting them discussion. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:40, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

@Pppery: I assume you mean the uppercase ones target Osage script? Either way, seems to me that the best course of action would still be to G6 all of these and then, if desired, hold an RfD on whether to retarget the 44 ones they conflicted with. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 20:52, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

@Tamzin: Yes, I did. My point is that, before batch-deleting redirects, one should make sure to consider the possibility that the lowercase title had the correct target, rather than the uppercase one (I'm making no comment about the Osage cases specifically). The non-osage ones are, for what it's worth:

Ꞟ (former Unicode lowercase) -> Volapük, Ꞟ is an article
Ꜵ (former Unicode lowercase) -> Ligature (writing), Ꜵ -> List of Latin-script letters
Ɽ (former Unicode lowercase) -> Voiced retroflex flap, Ɽ -> R with tail
Ɱ (former Unicode lowercase) -> Voiced labiodental nasal, Ɱ is an article
Ɒ (former Unicode lowercase) -> Open back unrounded vowel, Ɒ -> Latin turned alpha

So, overall, it looks like the lowercase titles are correct and you can go ahead with the mass G6, except for Ꜵ, which could do with a discussion on the proper target. But it was important to do that analysis and not act blindly. I also only count 22 of these, not 44. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:04, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Well I wasn't planning on acting blindly. As I said at RfD, I was holding off on doing anything because I needed to take the time to analyze the situation. As to 44 vs. 22, I just forgot to divide by 2 when ctrl+f'ing (since the relevant string appears twice per entry). Anyways, I'll mass-tag the 21 later today or tomorrow, if no one beats me to it, and will RfD the Ꜵs. I think the current target for the Osage ones is preferable, but also think it would be reasonable for anyone who feels otherwise to RfD those en masse. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 21:12, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Okay, 20 tagged G6, 1 RfD'd, 1 already G7'd. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 06:08, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-41

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 October. It will be on all wikis from 14 October (calendar).

The "auto-number headings" preference is being removed. You can read phab:T284921 for the reasons and discussion. This change was previously announced. A JavaScript snippet is available which can be used to create a Gadget on wikis that still want to support auto-numbering.

Meetings

You can join a meeting about the Desktop Improvements. A demonstration version of the newest feature will be shown. The event will take place on Tuesday, 12 October at 16:00 UTC. See how to join.

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15:29, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-42

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Toolhub is a catalogue to make it easier to find software tools that can be used for working on the Wikimedia projects. You can read more.

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 October. It will be on all wikis from 21 October (calendar).

Future changes

The developers of the Wikipedia Android app are working on communication in the app. You can now answer questions in survey to help the development.
3–5% of editors may be blocked in the next few months. This is because of a new service in Safari, which is similar to a proxy or a VPN. It is called iCloud Private Relay. There is a discussion about this on Meta. The goal is to learn what iCloud Private Relay could mean for the communities.
Wikimedia Enterprise is a new API for those who use a lot of information from the Wikimedia projects on other sites. It is a way to get big commercial users to pay for the data. There will soon be a copy of the Wikimedia Enterprise dataset. You can read more. You can also ask the team questions on Zoom on 22 October 15:00 UTC.

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20:52, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

BernsteinBot

Hello, Legoktm,

I thought I'd come to you directly since I'm not sure if MZMcBride is checking their talk page.

Any chance of Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories getting its regular update back? It's been four days since there has been a report. As a backup, I can use Special:UnusedCategories but it's not a "clean" report, it has a lot of empty categories that must be ignored because they are maintenance categories or WikiProject categories while the Database report only reported regular categories that had recently been emptied and could be tagged for CSD C1 deletion.

Also, the UnusedCategories report is issued every 3 days and it is really useful to tag empty categories on a daily basis as there are a number of editors who regularly check Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion and make sure there are no categories that have been deleted "out of process" (a WP:CFD term). It's much easier to manage a daily report of 15-40 empty categories than a report of 100 categories every 3 days. But I'll take whatever I can get! Thank you for looking into BernsteinBot's issues. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:32, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

No updates on any pages today. It might be me, but I don't think daily updates to Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits is of crucial importance. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:04, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

@Liz, sorry, I broke it when trying to fix some other reports. It should be back now. I also fudged the time so the Empty categories report should next update around 1am UTC.

Some of the reports, like List of Wikipedians by number of edits, are run by different scripts and at least I didn't break those too. Legoktm (talk) 05:39, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Okay, so Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories got issued at 02:01 UTC tonight which is just fine! Thank you very much for your bot work...it's greatly appreciated. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:21, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

I should probably have waited another hour until 05:00 UTC before posting here but I'm heading to bed soon and I thought I'd mention that the Empty Category report has been a little erratic in when it's been issued (see history of the report). If this was a human editor, I wouldn't expect consistency but with the BernsteinBot it was pretty regular, publishing at 01:02 UTC nightly so I thought I'd make an inquiry. I'm sure you're still working out the kinks, working on someone else's bot, but I thought I'd post a note. What do you bet it will issue a report a half an hour after I post this? Sheesh! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:13, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Oof, I think I made a math error. Changed the timestamp again, let's see if it works this time. Legoktm (talk) 15:26, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

And I should have been more patient. Like I guessed, within an hour or posting this message, BernsteinBot had posted the daily report! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:09, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

1:02, on the dot :) Now let's see if it keeps this up tomorrow... Legoktm (talk) 01:46, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-43

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

The Coolest Tool Award 2021 is looking for nominations. You can recommend tools until 27 October.

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 October. It will be on all wikis from 28 October (calendar).

Future changes

Diff pages will have an improved copy and pasting experience. The changes will allow the text in the diff for before and after to be treated as separate columns and will remove any unwanted syntax. [5]
The version of the Liberation fonts used in SVG files will be upgraded. Only new thumbnails will be affected. Liberation Sans Narrow will not change. [6]

Meetings

You can join a meeting about the Community Wishlist Survey. News about the disambiguation and the real-time preview wishes will be shown. The event will take place on Wednesday, 27 October at 14:30 UTC. See how to join.

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20:07, 25 October 2021 (UTC)