User talk:Legoktm/June 2019

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Tech News: 2019-23

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

You can now write all special letters in all African Wikipedia languages. This works in the desktop version. [1]
There is now a field called depicts on Commons. This is a way to show what is in a picture with the help of Wikidata. It is still in development. [2]
Some tools on Toolforge may break on or after 3 June because of database changes. Maintainers should update their tools to use the new schema. [3][4]

Problems

You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for 30 minutes on 19 June at 05:00 (UTC). This is to fix a hardware problem. [5]

Changes later this week

Some wikis have one tab for the visual editor and one tab for a wikitext editor. Others wikis just have one tab. If your wiki has two tabs, clicking a link to create a new page has always opened a wikitext editor. It will now open the editor you used the last time you edited. [6]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 May. It will be on all wikis from 6 May (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 5 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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15:24, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2019).

Administrator changes

Andonic • Consumed Crustacean • Enigmaman • Euryalus • EWS23 • HereToHelp • Nv8200pa • Peripitus • StringTheory11 • Vejvančický

CheckUser changes

Ivanvector

Guideline and policy news

An RfC seeks to clarify whether WP:OUTING should include information on just the English Wikipedia or any Wikimedia project.
An RfC on WT:RfA concluded that Requests for adminship and bureaucratship are discussions seeking to build consensus.
An RfC proposal to make the templates for discussion (TfD) process more like the requested moves (RM) process, i.e. "as a clearinghouse of template discussions", was closed as successful.

Technical news

The CSD feature of Twinkle now allows admins to notify page creators of deletion if the page had not been tagged. The default behavior matches that of tagging notifications, and replaces the ability to open the user talk page upon deletion. You can customize which criteria receive notifications in your Twinkle preferences: look for Notify page creator when deleting under these criteria.
Twinkle's d-batch (batch delete) feature now supports deleting subpages (and related redirects and talk pages) of each page. The pages will be listed first but use with caution! The und-batch (batch undelete) option can now also restore talk pages.

Miscellaneous

The previously discussed unblocking of IP addresses indefinitely-blocked before 2009 was approved and has taken place.
The 2019 talk pages consultation produced a report for Phase 1 and has entered Phase 2.

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Tech News: 2019-24

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

When you create a PDF from a page on the wiki this is now done by Proton. Before this we used Electron. It should look the same but work better. Both use Chromium. This is a different system from when you collect several articles into a book and make a PDF from them. [7][8]
The Flagged Revisions extension now uses the standard OOUI icons. There will be additional minor fixes for positioning in the next deployment. [9]
Bots and other scripts that do not set an identifiable User-Agent may find their requests strictly rate-limited until they identify themselves properly. [10]

Problems

Please check if the Flagged Revisions configuration on your wiki is as you expect (or as it was a few weeks ago). If not, please report it. [11]

Changes later this week

There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 12 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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17:06, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

June 2019

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, as you did at Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. If you ever grave dance like this again, I will block you. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:15, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks for discussing it with me on IRC. Legoktm (talk) 02:40, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

No problem. Thank you for being responsive :) TonyBallioni (talk) 02:45, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Legoktm, as someone who've been a Wikipedian for much longer, you ought to know that editing a post, that has been replied to is forbidden and I have reverted you. If you wish to edit it, strike out and then, re-write. ∯WBG^converse 02:51, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

...sigh. I know the guideline, Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines#Editing_own_comments says "should be avoided". Nowhere does it say it is "forbidden". On top of that, it's a behavioral guideline, not a policy. As suggested, I left a note that my original comment was changed. I took your comment as just a clarifying comment since I didn't explicitly indicate my affiliation, not anything related to the substance of my comment.

In any case, I don't think restoring a problematic comment that Tony gave me the above warning for was a great move either. Legoktm (talk) 03:13, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

That you are employed by WMF (cut the semantics out) and chose to defend your employer, (who has a glowing track record of being consistently incompetent), by throwing random aspersions on one of our most prominent ex-sysops (who don't have any opportunity to defend himself) and choosing to grave-dance, tells volume about your character and your employer.

I merely took the opportunity to highlight that.

Also, that guideline is as good as a policy and refactoring a comment, which has been replied to, is as good as forbidden. ∯WBG^converse 07:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

I really don't want to get into this, but Legoktm does have a responsibility as someone paid by the Foundation to be better than and above this sort of fray, and such a comment was inappropriate. That being said, it wasn't much of a dance: I think it's nicer than what you just said WBG, both are nicer than any of our worst, and none of it (including Fram's) is block worthy. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 10:19, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Ack, I realize my first comment was inappropriate/problematic, regardless of whether it's considered dancing or not. As I told Tony on IRC last night, I'm definitely not going to be doing that again. Legoktm (talk) 14:45, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

WBG, for better or worse, the WMF is a large organization, and the T&S team is a pretty small part. Labeling the whole organization as "incompetent" just makes me realize you don't know how the WMF actually operates. I don't mean this as a slight, as I'm always happy to explain my take on how the WMF operates and where decision making power comes from, if people are interested.

If you've read what I've written before, you'd see I'm not a fan of the current structure of the foundation, and would like to work on changing it. So I don't think I'm defending the organization that pays me (most of the time I really don't). I was speaking up for people that I considered to be my friends who aren't here anymore. That said, the way I originally did so wasn't great, and I'm going to keep that in mind going forwards.

Anyways, I'm not sure how to respond to the rest of what you said. You can't just twist a guideline into a policy (they're different for a reason) and then change what it literally says. And, my employment status is not semantics, being an employee is a legal distinction that's explicitly spelled out in my contract (that I'm not one of the WMF). Legoktm (talk) 14:45, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-25

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for 30 minutes on 19 June at 05:00 (UTC). This is to fix a hardware problem. [12]

Changes later this week

MIDI files can soon be played without the Score extension. You can then add them with [[File:Filename.midi]]. Later override_midi and override_audio will stop working. Instead you will need to add the MIDI file below the music score. [13]
A new video player will soon replace the old one. You will be able to enable it as a beta feature in your preferences. It will later be enabled for everyone if there are no big problems. [14]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 June. It will be on all wikis from 20 June (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 19 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

Some gadgets and user scripts still use the old wgEnableAPI and wgEnableWriteAPI values. These values are always true. They will soon be removed. This might break the gadgets and scripts. You should fix your gadgets to not use these values. [15]

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20:37, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-26

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

The new version of MediaWiki for last week was not fully released due to issues. It was removed from most wikis on Tuesday and from test wikis on Thursday. [16]
Most wikis were slow and then briefly read-only last week due to one of the database servers having a problem. It is now replaced. [17]

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 June. It will be on all wikis from 27 June (calendar).

Meetings

You can watch or join the next Wikimedia Language showcase. It will be about the usage of Machine Translation in Wikimedia projects. The showcase will be on 26 June at 13:00 (UTC). A recording will be kept for later viewing
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 26 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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17:29, 24 June 2019 (UTC)