User talk:LeChatiliers Pupper

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I hope you enjoy editing Wikipedia! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Feel free to write a note on the bottom of my talk page if you want to get in touch with me. Again, welcome! Diannaa (talk) 20:41, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If they are any areas of the Bugeaud article you want rewritten please do tell me, as far as I am concerned I wrote it my own words copying where technical accuracy eg a composition of a military force was required or where there was a literal quote or a translation from Arabic. @Diannaa LeChatiliers Pupper (talk) 21:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Numerous other edits of yours had to be removed as well, because of copyright issues. I removed material you added copied from this book in Emir Abdelkader, Anne Jean Marie René Savary, Bertrand Clauzel, Massacre of El Ouffia,and Treaty of Tafna. Please don't add copyright material to Wikipedia. Diannaa (talk) 21:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your removal from the emir is a title, facts cannot be copyrighted

In clauzel you have the wonderful turn of phase "less as a matter of policy than of an absence of policy", this is not the words of the source but if you had read the book you would know it was a quote of a french author @Diannaa LeChatiliers Pupper (talk) 21:59, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"The outcome of this ‘period of uncertainty’, to adopt the phrase of Charles-André Julien, in which the ‘restricted occupation’ of Algeria was less a matter of policy than of an absence of policy"

There's the full context from the source

And you reduced it to 'default' what vandalism! LeChatiliers Pupper (talk) 22:11, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The paragraph I removed fro Thomas Robert Bugeaud was "In addition to the formal provisions of the Tafna treaty, secret agreements made between Bugeaud and Abdelkader assured the amir that he would obtain army rifles, ammunition, the relocation away from Oran of the secessionist Dawa’ir and Zmala tribes, and the exile of their chiefs in exchange for a cash payment, which was spent by Bugeaud to further his electoral cause through road-mending in his constituency" which is almost identical to the source, accortding to the iThenticate report. Diannaa (talk) 22:22, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I accept some may not be sufficiently rewritten but the vast majority of the Bugeaud contribution is fine. But likewise your revisions are excessive and based on a report no wonder you missed the context of the Julien quote. Similar to the titling of the emir! LeChatiliers Pupper (talk) 22:36, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Bertrand Clauzel: It's okay to add short quotations, but initially there was no quotation marks and no indication that "less as a matter of policy than of an absence of policy" was anything but straight-up copying.

Re: Emir Abdelkader: "commander of the faithful" one possible definition of Emir, but "leader of the effort to re-establish order against internal anarchy and foreign incursion" is not. That's the part that's copyvio. People can find the definitions and usage of Emir at the article Emir, so there's no reason to include it here. It's also a common term that they can look up in their dictionary if they've never encountered it before. Diannaa (talk) 17:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay thank you for the feedback I will try and do better if I edit again LeChatiliers Pupper (talk) 19:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]