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"Say no to flagged revisions"

Fyi, already archived, unless you still want to keep it there. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:02, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I know, and I voted in it, but I still want to express my opposition to that abomination. Especially since the issue doesn;t seem to be totally resolved yet. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:03, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I thought of keeping mine, as well, but I wanted to make it obvious that I was keeping up with the circumstances of my opinion. I felt too strongly about it to give the impression of neglect. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:21, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Perfectly valid. Of course, you could always express your strong opinions with my brand new userbox just for the occasion, which does not link to the archived page. I kept the other one on my talk page because I wanted to express my opinion on both pages, and the tab one looked more aesthetically pleasing on top of the table of contents box. Nutiketaiel (talk) 21:25, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

That's a little "too" deep for me. Bring about the end of Wikipedia? Woah. Not that I'm saying that it is false... Simon^KSK 21:27, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not for everyone. I saw a milder one here, but it was too wishy washy for my tastes (possibly because it failed to refer to flagged revisions as an abomination). It doesn't even say "oppose," just that you "don't support." Nutiketaiel (talk) 21:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

(e/c)Actually, I like it. Now I don't think flagged revs will actually bring about the Wiki-pocalypse by itself, but I think plenty of conflict and loss of freedom could come as a result. It'll be the first tap of a chain of dominoes, which is one of the things I fear in particular if it is actually used.

PS - that rumor's growing more intimidating by the day. First agreeing at MOTD, next persuading each other to change our votes, now exchanging userboxes and sharing strong views on a highly controversial topic...yow. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:35, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe I'll Make one. Simon^KSK 21:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I smell socks. Simon^KSK 21:37, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

It is one of the early signs of Wiki-gnarök. First, flagged revisions. Then, someone attacks the most beautiful of the gods with some mistletoe. Then, the Fenris Wolf and Jormangandr get free and destroy Asgard. Finally, Surtr burns Midgard to the ground. It's all there, black and white, in the prophecies of the Prose Wiki. Very scary.

In all seriousness, I think these flagged revisions are so dangerous because they look benign. They seem like something to just help prevent libel and ensure quality control, but they're the first step down that slippery slope away from our principles.

P.S.- It is getting kind of scary. It's OK, though. With you around, I'll face my fears. Or does that just make it worse? Nutiketaiel (talk) 21:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

P.P.S.- I'm not a sock.  :-P Nutiketaiel (talk) 21:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Most beautiful? I smell socks and beer. Are you EUI, Nuki? JK Simon^KSK 21:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

100% my thoughts as well, ye weaver of tales. Only one problem, though. I am not one of those gods. If I were though, no doubt I would still be the most beautiful. ;)

PS - That does make it worse, but at least I'll have a shoulder to cry on at MOTD if the going gets tough. And I believe my saying so will make circumstances even worse, but there is a slight chance they shall find compassion inside their gelid hearts to deign discover a shred of pity for two stranded souls in a barren sea of darkness that is our doomed existence in this hell that is life. If this sounds queer, keep in mind that it is midnight now, and late hours have the same effects as two bottles of wine and a tequila, Tex-Mex style. Hic! —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

(indent) What does Flagged Revisions have to do with Wiki-ragnarok, out of curiosity? Methinks you're making a slippery slope out of the molehill. bibliomaniac15 06:08, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Molehills can be slippery. Just ask the mole, once you identify him.

Anyhow, it's just our POV, Biblio. We don't want any drama here (seeing as you disagreed at the vote), but it's our belief that this is the first step towards a complete desecration of WP's core values, starting with the "free-to-edit" principle. Nutiket will probably be around tomorrow to answer for you, if you like. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:14, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Does any more need to be said? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:22, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I'll always be there if you need a shoulder, La Pianista, though I highly doubt that they will take any pity on we star-crossed lovers.

As for you, Bibliomaniac, my references to Wiki-gnarok were largely poetic license (except for the part about La Pianista being the most beautiful- that's literal truth). I really don't think a giant wolf and a giant snake are going to eat the Article Namespace, nor do I think that a fire giant of Muspelheim is going to burn down the User Namespace. What I do think, however, is that flagged revisions will make the wiki less accessible to newcomers and anonymous editors, since their edits won't go through until approved by someone else. Putting aside the backlog that this will create (and it will; just ask the Germans), it will discourage participation. New content will be less forthcoming. All practical considerations aside, though, my greatest objection is philosophical. This is supposed to be a free encyclopedia, edited by everyone. That is one of our core principles. It is part of what attracted me to the project in the first place; it's why I like it. Does it open the door to vandalism? Yes, of course. It's just something you have to deal with, and hope that the thin blue line can protect us. No, that's not right- you do more than hope- you jump right in and do some protecting yourself. You stick one of those Wiki-Defconometers on your userpage and when it turns red, you roll your sleeves up and start recent change patrolling for all you're worth. There will always be vandalism. The answer isn't to kick our core principles to the curb- the answer is to step up our efforts. We cannot succeed by making the wiki less free. So, yeah, I do think that flagged revisions are an abomination unto Wikipedia and that their implementation will be the beginning of the end for us- contributions will scale down slowly over time until, eventually, it's just Jimbo looking around saying "where did everybody go?" Because, if everything has to be approved before it goes up, we're really not Wikipedia anymore; we might as well all go work at Britannica. Of course, by that point, maybe we'll all be editing at Nutipedia. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Or Citizendium, for that matter. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 18:11, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing, but I didn't want to name names (it doesn't count with Britannica; since they're a paper encyclopedia, they can't get on the internet and see it and get their feelings hurt). Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

No, I don't mean that as an insult to Citizendium - it's just a normal wiki, and a really good one at that. Wikipedia is simply supposed to be different, to be 100% (or at least 95%) free to the public in all respects. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 20:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

First of all, flagged revisions won't be enacted for every article. Like semi-protection, it's on a case-for-case basis. So it doesn't violate the "free encyclopedia" pillar in the same way that protection doesn't violate it either. The easiest way to stop vandalism is to prevent it from appearing. We already have protection for that; flagged revisions are merely another step to prevent BLP issues or vandalism from hitting the main article. If I am not incorrect, the ability to mark "approved" revisions is bundled with rollback. Finally, there is an additional incentive for creating an account in that all users, autoconfirmed or new, are able to see the most recent change, similar to how semi-protection gives an incentive to sign up and edit with an account. bibliomaniac15 21:11, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

It's not that I have a problem with flagged revisions on its own - it seems very practical, I will allow for that. It's only what it signifies, and the direction it points toward. It seems to be the start of what might make Wikipedia "just another wiki." In short, it's not the idea itself, it's the message. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:17, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Firstly, I've seen a couple of statements that say that flagged revisions will be applied to every BLP article, which would be a big problem for me. Secondly, I don't think we should be penalizing people any more than we already do for not creating an account; there is nothing wrong with anon editing, and plenty of IP addresses make very good, substantive contributions. I do agree with La Pianista on the philosophical issue- this is a step in the wrong direction for our project. Finally, I think that however this starts, it will end up being expanded over time to include more and more of the encyclopedia until every article is set up for flagged revisions. Hense the slippery slope. I'm not saying that it's inevitable that that will happen, but I think it's likely, and I'd rather not take the first step down that road. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:44, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Say no to falgged revisons! Chubbennaitor 17:16, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Uh, yep. See Wikipedia talk:Flagged revisions/Trial/Votes. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 17:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Why does everyone vote against Flagged revisions? It's perfectly fine. It would prevent the scandals that happened (such as saying that alive people are dead). (Note: If you don't know this, see the Flagged Revisions article on the Wikipedia Signpost.) Even Jimbo Wales vouches for it. (Though the discussion on his talk page has been archived) What's the opposition's argument? That it would go against Wikipedia's policy that "anyone can edit?" That's incorrect, since everyone can edit every page (except for semi-protected/full-protected ones); the Flagged revisions people just analyze whether the edits were vandalism, false information, or not. I think it is a worthy and useful tool that can help us in the future. MathCool10 ^{Sign here!} 00:49, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Also: There is a whole group of people watching the backlog of edits to flagged pages. I doubt anyone would have to wait for a long time (since we aren't adding flagged revisions to every page) unless they were editing a flagged article during the night, and even then, there are still people watching the backlog. The wait is not a problem because of this. MathCool10 ^{Sign here!} 00:53, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Fyi, MathCool, Jimbo himself openly expressed the fact that he did not want anything implemented just because "Jimbo said so." Also, my problem is not whether or not "anyone can edit it"; it's more of flagged revisions' antagonism to our core principle as a "live" wiki. I understand the practical viewpoint you offer, but, as I have said, my main concern involves what this implies. It implies a turn away from our core values, almost like an infringement on our Constitution, figuratively. I find an issue in the sentiment, not the action. The general message this is sending is disturbing to me. There is philosophic value behind just the pragmatic side of things, even on the Internet. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:46, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

So, is it going to pass? I think it did, but I don't see it being implemented yet. MathCool10 ^{Sign here!} 19:14, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

WP:RFA

I know I already mentioned this before, but I think you would have a good chance of doing well on WP:RFA, and it's not just because of your edit count. You have a majority of edits to mainspace, and plus you have done a lot of reviews. Maybe I haven't noticed, but you might want to nominate some (more) articles for GA, FA, and DYK. This will increase your chance of doing well in WP:RFA. Overall, I think you have quite a decent chance of doing well in WP:RFA. MathCool10 ^{Sign here!} 03:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Trust me MathCool - we've been over this a lot before! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:53, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I would tread on cautious ground right now. I don't doubt La Pianista's skills, but I do not foresee an RFA as advantageous at the moment. bibliomaniac15 04:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Agreed (I meant to imply that in my edit before, but now that I reread it...)

I love ya Pianista, but not yet. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:46, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I think you need to reread your posts more often. :P bibliomaniac15 04:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Shut up, Mr. "I'm cool becuase I'm a bureaucrat". oooo. What're you going to do, ban me? :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I'd block you, but I don't think I would be able to get the community support for a ban. :) bibliomaniac15 05:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Awite, listen here, folks:

1. By no means do I have the slightest bit of a grudge against Ed or Biblio, if you are afraid that I'm offended or anything of the sort (I'm too much of a strong lady for that ;P ). In fact, I agree with you %100, and am grateful for your honest opinions. I love you both all the more for that.
2. Also by no means do I look forward to being an admin anytime soon. One, is because I rarely participate in AfDs, and I myself do not feel experienced enough for the job. Two, as one of my userboxes says, is that I am a WikiSloth. I don't know what I'd do with all that responsibility. ;)
3. And I am very touched by the repeated offers by all of you to nom me for adminship. Nom nom nom. At least some people out there don't explicitly hate me for what I do. Thanks, everyone, again and again. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 16:34, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Adminship is overrated. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 18:03, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Eh? Then why is it that the 'crats and admins come out of their cubbyholes every time I get a talk page section header with "RfA" in it? :P

Just kidding. I agree with Julian 100% - adminship is more of a responsibility than a title. It's just another form of community service, which is why I like the idea of adminship, but not so hungry for it. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 20:57, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

OK, understood.

@ Ed: what do you mean by "a lot before"? This is only the second time. And also, please be WP:CIVIL towards Biblio.

Thanks everyone! Cheers, MathCool10 ^{Sign here!} 03:24, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

A lot before, meaning not just you. I've got an offer from Ed himself, then User:Blooded Edge, then User:What!?Why?Who?, then you twice.

And no need to be civil - he's WP:EUI. :P Just kidding - we're all just joking around, MC. "Shut up"s basically add up to "I love you, man" around here. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 03:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

I...see. LOL! MathCool10 ^{Sign here!} 03:51, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Bored

Pianista, I'm bored. Could you suggest anything for me to do, please? And I know absolutely NOTHING about clasical music, so please don't ask me to do something connected to that. Thanks! :) Queenie ^Talk 18:53, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Bored on Wikipedia?! :O

How about some runs at WP:Help desk or WP:RD? Or just click "random article" and see what you like. Or, you could just skim through the page at WP:Queen - currently inactive, but I'm sure they'll have a list of open tasks. Or you could go to the WP:Community portal and see what catches your eye. Hope this helps, —La Pianista ^(T•C) 20:55, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

OK...... Loads of suggestions there. Will try them all. Thanks!! :) Queenie ^Talk 21:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Being the jerk I am, I have decided to [helpfully] butt into this conversation. Queenie, I suggest you give User:SuggestBot a go. Blooded Edge (T•C•A) 22:26, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Takes too long. Simon^KSK 22:32, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

You have nothing to lose out of signing up though. You'll get the list of recommendations eventually, a nice surprise when it does indeed arrive. Blooded Edge (T•C•A) 22:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

You can be disapointed too.

SuggestBot predicts that you will enjoy editing some of these articles. Have fun!

Stubs User:Queenie Merge User:Jimbo Wales with User:SimonKSK

D

Hey, I like it! Simon^KSK 23:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

@ BE - Hey, nice to hear from you again. :) And by no means are you a jerk for butting in, since I do it all the time, and it would make me a...female dog.

@ Simon - Actually, you missed the Cleanup section, which would also happen to be at User:SimonKSK. Messy, messy. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Bored. Chubbennaitor 16:25, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Lol Pianista, you're a female kitten really. =D Blooded Edge (T•C•A) 18:51, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

AAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH. Chubbennaitor 20:04, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

(@ B.E.) A female kitten with claws...

(@ Chubb) Chubb, if you really want something to do, join WP:MILHIST and see what you can do there. ;D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:10, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

"Nonono, Icy wants YOU for her clouds" ... quote Ed :P. That said, I actually never joined that WikiProject - maybe after I get something past start-class. Gah. Icy // ♫ 22:42, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

WP:PW? More intresting than Guns and clouds, ya know. Simon^KSK 22:47, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Wrestling???? Meteorology????? Get a life ;D Chamal ^talk 00:17, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Just letting you know...my dad, who has been working at the same job for 10 years and STILL hasn't gotten a big pay raise likes military history, and has over 10GB of tank pics. Just letting you know. Simon^KSK 00:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

LOL... I think it's the tank pics that are creating problems, not the interest in military history Delete all the pics, or upload them to commons. Pay rise guaranteed within two weeks. If you don't get the pay rise, contact La Pianista and ask what's wrong. Chamal ^talk 00:30, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

(out) Seriously now, if your Dad doesn't care, you should upload those. I bet that some editors would be realllly happy when they notice. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:34, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I dunno know, I'll try, but some of them are scans of his tank books. That might need fair use. Simon^KSK 00:49, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Hold up. Scans are bad unless those are the only known photos of a tank/ship/animal that is gone/no examples left/extinct. Otherwise, no "fair use" claim can be made, because a free photo could conceivably be taken. All photos that were taken by your Dad would be ok though assuming that he would release them under a free license...—Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Whoa. I disapparate for twelve hours, and all my TPSers are havin' a party.

But...yo yo yo! Ma. Da best place for funz iz WP:CM. Seriuzly. Rock out with teh pwnage all night 'n' day.

Actually, seriously, Ed is right about that. If you have any free images of those tanks, though, I'm sure that the folks at MILHIST without a life with an interest in tanks would really take fondly to those uploads. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Beethoven??? Mozart???? WTF?!? I mean, I like Moonlight and Fur Elise, but come on, who listens to classical music except for old people? No offense, Queen Elizabeth. Simon^KSK 01:55, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

-glare- Now, you've never heard any Prokofiev, or Bach's toccata and fugue in something-minor, haaaave you ... Icy // ♫ 01:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) Young people. And extraordinarily hot people (whom I am told I resemble). And really hot people. You'd be amazed at how many classical lovers like us are out there. What does wrestling have compared with that? *kitteh growls* And if any of you wiseguys come out with "pussy" jokes, I will personally brain you against yo mamma's brick house.

And it's not limited to just Beethoven and Mozart, Simon. Check out this dude, this dude, this dude, this dude, and, my hero, this dude. And, while you are reading those articles, I would suggest you find a...whatcha-ma-callit...a life. ;P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I've got a life, thanks. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Destroying my user talk to article ratio again -_- With Pianista around here, I'll bet your half-life is a lot shorter ... Icy // ♫ 02:06, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) >.> Right. *cough* Actually, I completely get where you're coming from. Some people used to think I'm wasting my life, that I should be into more girly things, like cheer leading and whatnot. My Grandma used to say I should have taken up basketball or fashion modeling. Or competitive swimming or nursing. Don't laugh.

(after) Ha! His whole life would be shorter, Icy, not just atomically speaking. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

LOL! ...oop. I just laughed. What.....what are you going to do? *GULP.* —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:12, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

That said, anyone have a pistol? Icy // ♫ 02:16, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

(e/c, + got logged out) Naw. Sometimes I laugh, too. I mean, I would totally pity the poor patient under my care if I became a nurse. Meaning, I would be pretty liberal with the painkillers and not so much with Abilify. And just because I take swimming extracurriculars does not mean I can become another useless babe off Baywatch. Nor does it mean that I can wear Chanel No. 5 and fancy ballgowns for some Superbowl commercial so Granny can see me on digital TV. And just because I stood at 5'7" when I was in eighth grade does not mean that I should have become the first white girl to join the Harlem Globetrotters. It does mean I can rip Shostakovich to shreds and pwn Liszt like the next Horowitz, though, maybe go on to play at Carnegie. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:19, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

(out) The next House? (albeit female?)
Whoa. Some deep resentful feelings on that subject? :/ —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:24, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Ha ha! "Deep resentful feelings"? You sound like Dr. Phil. :P

Nah, just a little annoyance. After the first competition I won, though, she kinda clammed up about it. She's still regretful that I didn't join the Girl Scouts or something. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:26, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not that sad. Chubbennaitor 21:10, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

(@ Pianista) - But the Girl Scouts are so ... virtuous. Maybe they'd ... ah ... set you straight... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:17, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

LOL! No, nothing can. I am irreversibly perverted scarred for life. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:24, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

>_> Ya know, sometimes I get scared talking to you guys. Like...right...now. Simon^KSK 21:43, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

orly? —La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:44, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

yarly Simon^KSK 21:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

nowai. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:51, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

After all these Huggle edits to get my mainspace higher than my user talk yawai needs moar drama! Simon^KSK 21:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I have that effect on people. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:57, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

orly? Simon^KSK 22:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I refuse to respond to someone who has not signed his own comment. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 22:01, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

It happens. Simon^KSK 22:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Why? I do that all the time. Chubbennaitor 16:14, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm kidding, dear Chubb. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 00:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey!

Hey there! Happy New Year and pre-Valentine's day. How's life?

(yes, this is a purely social, Facebook-esque message. Jimbo can shoot me himself if he must)

Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 03:56, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Life is amazing. Busy, of course (since it's my fault I have piano dreams), but otherwise very, very fun.

And it's equally amazing to hear from yourself. It's been ages, eons, whatever you wish to call it. I was such a n[][]b back then, lucky to not have been bitten (or, if I was, I was perhaps too dull to see it). Thanks again for all your help, and that of countless others, as well. You're part of the influence for my FireFox craze...I don't get some of my IE friends anymore. :D

So how's life for you? —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Awesome, I'm so happy that it's goin' well for you! How go the piano studies? I'm assuming you're taking theory or something of the sort? And don't mention it, I'm always down to helping someone get their... wings? Flippers?

As for life for me, it's pretty awesome! Final year of highschool, applied to universities; got in to the one I live next to, but I'm really aiming for Carleton University to become a journalist and influence the weak-willed plebs of this puny planet spread knowledge! And I've discovered how reckless of a driver I am, but only in really wide-open parking lots with lots of snow begging for me to use my e-brake on.

Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 04:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Piano studies? Well, since you asked...

I'm kidding - I'll keep it brief. The piano prof is excellent at the university here (won't say which, since it can compromise me. ;) ) I'm eventually looking forward to Julliard. A far-fetched idea, true, but my prof and family have faith in me, so I'll give it a shot someday. Theory exams, in fact, were just finished a few weeks ago, but the results haven't come in quite yet.

Journalist! I wanted to be one when I was a kid, until I somehow tapped in to my inner nerd and fell in love with the ebony and ivory. At first, my relatives thought that was just a kid's thing, but I took to it well, and here I am. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:10, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Wow! From what I know that's a really prestigious school! Well, add me to the list of people who have faith in you! I've never heard you play, you may think, but from your devotion I can guess you're a practical virtuoso! :) I wish I had stuck to piano, to be honest... got to about grade 7 and then got intrigued by guitar. I still sometimes sit down at my upright and sound out some nice little songs. Maybe after high school I'll go back into it; it's truly a beautiful instrument. Ever heard Before Dawn by Isaac Shepard? It's contemporary, not classical, but it's a wonderful piece. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 04:15, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

*Sob* Another piano-obsessed freak crazy? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:18, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

(e/c)Aw, shucks, it's nothing, honestly. >.> You haven't heard me play, remember that - you have no obligation to say such rash, importunate things! :P

Many people I talk to say the same thing. Even my dentist literally grabbed me by the shoulders and told me not to quit. He said that he always regretted never having a quiet night to play any Chopin or Schubert for himself after a long day of work.

Isaac Shepard. Nope, never heard, sorry. Don't laugh, but the closest I've ever come to actual Contemporary is my Mom's old BeeGee CDs...

I said don't laugh. ;)

(after) Aw, come, Eddie, be civil. I could just as well say "Aw, another WWII-obsessed mental?" —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry about Eddie; the poison should set in in a few hours. Meanwhile, as for Isaac Shepard; here's a YouTube link of his piano piece (sound, no video). You may scoff at it with all of your cultured piano knowledge (just kidding! :P) but I find it very relaxing. This from a guy who named his user account after a Metallica album, eh?

P.S. WWII is cool! I mean, cool to study. I disapprove highly of war and such. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 04:27, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Wow. That is very beautiful. I'll see if I can find the score. No, honestly, I will. I look forward to learning that one. This, albeit more "cultured" has the same effect for me - not a very difficult one - learned it last year.

You like WWII? Methinks you like too many things... *grows suspicious* —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:31, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

(out) Someone likes being the center of attention .. or drama...hmm. Destined for Arbcom or just a simple "attention whore", that is the question... ;D In no way is that meant meanly, as an insult or anything other than a joke... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:38, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

EfD! EfD! *shouts 'til she grows hoarse* —La Pianista ^(T•C)

I think the sheet music is located in the video description; this should be it. There's also a higher quality MP3 file in there (virus free, I checked). It would be great if you learned it though!

As for Barenboim's rendition of Aria, wow. Cultured or not, I still love the sounds of fingers tickling ivory! Or whatever expression them pianists use...

And yeah, my interests are really widespread. Everything from ballet, opera, classical music, girls, biking, computers, gaming, swimming, playing old LPs, guitar, fixing broken things, lockpicking (not illegally :P)... I'm the typical unsettled teenager with a mind that won't rest, haha. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 04:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Lol at EFD! Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 04:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Also, major lol at "playing old LPs". Hint: see my username. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:44, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

No, no, long play records!!! You're young! (sort of) Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 04:47, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Humor me. Ye poor, doomed soul, dost ye ken my jokes? Alas, the doors to EfD have opened, too soon for the fortune of ye stranded spirit... —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, it is on. My productivity in real life and on WP:RFPP, WP:AIV and CAT:SD is about to go wayyy down. But so are you. >:) Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 04:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Likewise. Grr. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

:O Failz. No edit summary?!? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:10, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

:O Noooooooo! Kill me, love, before the pain makes life too hard to bear! *faints in Ed's arms* —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

:O Nuki will be disappointed. Simon^KSK 20:40, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Stop having conversations without me. Pre-Valentines day. Pah. Isn't needed until post-College. Chubbennaitor 21:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Too late. :D Simon^KSK 21:35, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Pah. I only act that way with Ed to get on his nerves, anyway... ;P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Blog

I have a blog... right here.... http://spittlespat.blogspot.com/ --Spittlespat 03:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

um... hi... Do you keep track of wikipedia and your blog at the same time?--Spittlespat 20:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 20:52, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

(e/c)Well, I usually edit Wiki from 4 'til 9, then I go to blogger and check the blogs I'm following until 9:30. Go check your blog; I'm following it! Queenie ^Talk 20:53, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I get on the computer, (1st HW) go on ITV/F1.com then come here. When I'm finished here, I go to TwoChairs then look at the astronomy picture of the day. Go to Flickr to look for F1 pics then any other extra WP work. Chubbennaitor 16:18, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

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:(

I didn't hear a "Happy Birthday" from you....*wink**wink**nudge**nudge* Simon^KSK 23:47, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh? Then Happy Burpday. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 00:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

My sig

Hello Pianista. I tried the sig you typed out for me, and unfortunately, I get this message:Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 00:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes - that was because I tried to save space and left some tags unclosed. Would you be all right with a less fancy signature, perhaps without the font? I can retain the colors, though. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 00:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 00:55, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry - I've discovered that the colors aren't feasible, either. Do you have any other ideas in mind? —La Pianista ^(T•C) 00:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I took so long to reply, my browser was acting like a jerk, so I had to switch. I didn't really have any other ideas in mind, but maybe you could combine the white and grey colors from here? --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 01:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

No problem - happens to me all the time. :)

Actually, I should have been more specific - there wasn't a problem with the colors chosen, it was the fact that you had a color for each letter. Could you think of a design that uses fewer colors? There is a character limit to how long a signature can be, you see, and I have to comply with that. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:28, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not terribly picky, so you can be creative with either of the color combinations. :) --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 01:40, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

 Doing... —La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:53, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Should the pro butt in? Chamal ^talk 03:21, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

*snort* professional...Simon^KSK 03:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

No, no... signature professional. Although, I admit my snorting is quite professional too. Chamal ^talk 03:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes you may. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 03:26, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I remember when I used to do sigs. Chubbennaitor 17:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

First edit day

Hey! I've been here a year now. Yay! *He says alone*. Chubbennaitor 17:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Happy Burpday to you, then Chubb! Congrats on making it though one year in the Jungle. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:26, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Blooooody murder

Maybe we you should put bloooody murder episodes (new and old) on your blog.--Spittlespat 23:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

No - I would think not. Thanks for your thoughts, though. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:28, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

You have a blog?Chubbennaitor 17:15, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

triplets against eigths, here - Queenie ^Talk 18:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

That's yours. Chubbennaitor 20:18, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Eh? What do you mean? Queenie ^Talk 20:24, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

No, that's mine, Chubb - see userpage. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 23:14, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Facepalm oh, teh failz. Simon^KSK 23:16, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Trout

*pulls scales out of hair* –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 04:47, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah? Have fun with that. :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:51, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Facepalm –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 04:53, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks for the copyediting! NOCTURNENOIR ^{( t • c )} 06:27, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Aw, I'm not even done yet! :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:39, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Who cares. Chubbennaitor 09:07, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Duh...

Perfect timing: [1] & [2] :D Chamal ^talk 07:22, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Well done. You spy. Chubbennaitor 09:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Are you guys telepathic or something? :D LittleMountain5 16:54, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Ha ha, wow! <creepiness> Even better than that - our souls are conjoined. Our lives are forever intertwined; our hearts beat in perfect synchronicity. We are...one. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 18:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

You're kidding me, right? The same minute? I'm officially creeped now... ;)

But we can't be one, Pianista—as I do not love the piano, and you do not heart the trumpet, we can never be one. :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:29, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Iz mah telepathic powahz. Chargin mah lazrs...

Good point, but we are both worthless, nerdy Wikipedians who spent Valentine's Day on IRC... —La Pianista ^(T•C) 18:33, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

...ummmm... that is a scary pic.

Hey, I did something with my day... :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:41, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Really? I thought it was profoundly inspiring... :P

On Wikipedia. I actually did something in real life. :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 18:44, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh crap, another one. Simon^KSK 18:55, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Owned you all... Icy // ♫ 18:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) If you are referring to "another" piano piece, you'd best stay away from the windows and doors, buddyboy.

(after) N-o y-o-u-!!! —La Pianista ^(T•C) 19:02, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

And this, and a bunch of violin stuff that I'm too lazy to list... :P How, hoooowww, do you play the evil octave passage in the black key etude glissando?! Icy // ♫ 19:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

(out for sanity) Homework? Homework? teh failure levels.... You should really get in shape, people and not play with dumb toys. Simon^KSK 19:07, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Badminton > basketball. 'Nuff said. Icy // ♫ 19:08, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I love badminton but Basketball owns badminton by miles. Simon^KSK 19:09, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Hahaha - (@ Pianista above) - you're right. I didn't do much IRL yesterday :) I lost in ping-pong, that's about it. :D

Guys, tennis > badminton > basketball...kthnxbai. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

@ Icy, way up there: Well, part from the wrist, part from the arm. My prof is crazy about making octaves from the arm, not the fingers. Not glissando - strike each one, slow practice. It's a good way to fix the horror at Scherzo No. 3 (Chopin) (I don't play it, but I'm trying - aka, failz).

Piano pwns all, except cello. Jackie changed my mind about that "Piano is supreme." —La Pianista ^(T•C) 19:13, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

ping-pong > tennis, and basketball > ping-pong. Get your facts right. kthxbai. Simon^KSK 19:14, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

ping-pong twice? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:19, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

No - Piano > Wikipedia. :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 19:20, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

@Ed: No, he means piano > basketball > ping-pong > tennis. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 19:22, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah, no. I believe that the proper order is tennis > trumpet > ping-pong > piano > basketball. :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:32, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Pianista, "way up there": Nah, wasn't my idea to play it glissando. I read it in the article :P Thanks for the advice, though ... Icy // ♫ 19:36, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Icy: Someone should fix that. Glissando octaves? That's not even humanly possible...

Ed: Nope. But your suggestion convinced me to modify mine - piano > basketball > ping-pong > tennis > Ed. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 19:37, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

^That list is fair. but basketball > piano. Simon^KSK 19:41, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Nevah. Concerto Cat pwns all. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 19:45, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) That's fair also. Pianista, 2 v. 1, we win. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:46, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

*cries* But I iz a FEMALEZ on teh internetz! —La Pianista ^(T•C) 19:55, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Forcing me to weigh in? Great. Piano > all. That is all. NOCTURNENOIR ^{( t • c )} 19:58, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I like NocturneNoir nao. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 20:05, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

(out) - I do not. Must we duel on IRC again, NN? :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:08, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, but you already lost. La Pianista is on IRC and you are not... The battle is already over, my friend. NOCTURNENOIR ^{( t • c )} 20:13, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Owned. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:15, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Coward! You ran off! —La Pianista ^(T•C) 20:15, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Valentines day...hmm...I was ill and was sleep all day. Chubbennaitor 21:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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Complaint about teh Kittehmaster

He ate my corn! Here's visual proof!

File:Catcron.gif

:D --Dylan620 _{Hark unto me · Ping me} @ 15:06, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Well by the looks of it, poor Kittehmaster is going to be deleted... [3] LittleMountain5 15:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Nah, that's just Kittehmaster Beta. There are still Kittehmasters Alpha, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, Iota, Kappa, Lambda, Mu, Nu, Xi, Omicron, Pi, Rho, Sigma, Tau, Upsilon, Phi, Chi, Psi, and Omega! --Dylan620 _{Hark unto me · Ping me} @ 16:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

...and they all think we're corn cobs! They're going to eat us!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!! --Dylan620 _{Hark unto me · Ping me} @ 16:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Suck it, Trebek :P

[4] —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 16:42, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Forget editcountis, are you people developing wikicheckercountis? Icy // ♫ 17:07, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

No, "user talk/mainspace edit count ratio-itis". :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 17:11, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Do you two realize that rabid kittens are trying to eat us? OW! MY ARM!!! :P --Dylan620 _{Hark unto me · Ping me} @ 17:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Well that's the most.......... sense I've ever heard. Chubbennaitor 20:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

*crying inconsolably* —La Pianista ^(T•C) 22:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Now, now, now. *Pats Pianista on back* Don't cry, my dear - 'tis only a joke. <3's! :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't care if it's a joke or not! You're goin' down, man, you're goin' down! Just watch me. Yeah, yeah, <3's back... —La Pianista ^(T•C) 22:17, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Julian humbly requests your presence on IRC (we think he wants to flirt (we as in more than just me :D)). —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:24, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

{{orly}} –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 22:26, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

rly.

Copy: <JulianC93 wishes La_Pianista would come on> —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:28, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Julian, Ed, Pianista, could I ask anyone of you a favor? --Dylan620 _{Hark unto me · Ping me} @ 22:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Sure, what's up? –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 22:37, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

<- KITTEHMASTER PHI IS TRYING TO EAT MY HEAD!!!!!! :P:D;)LOL Julian, could you exterminate it? :P --Dylan620 _{Hark unto me · Ping me} @ 22:50, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Good news! Someone has blocked deleted teh kittehmaster.... The corn cobs of the world are safe. :) please forgive this myspacing, I couldn't resist it. Queenie ^Talk 17:04, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

OMG! It's back! Simon^KSK 18:53, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

In result to ed17's comment above

I'm doing rubbishly on that level and I barely do anything to articles. Chubbennaitor 16:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)