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Ford P Platform

Are you actually looking at the content of the article being marked for Speedy deletion? There is no source being provided that actually refers to Ford P platform and all of what is there only refers to a cancelled model called P525.
If anyone cares to read through each of those sources provided, they would quickly see that. That article is sitting there misleading a bevy of people within the world regarding what Ford manufactures.Carmaker1 (talk) 21:45, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Carmaker1, yes, I have looked at the content of the article. I have even tried to find sources, and ended up being fairly confused over whether this exists or not. Overall, a typical example of an article that probably should be deleted, but should not be speedily deleted. Speedy deletion is not for all articles that should be deleted, it is only for those that meet a fairly narrow set of criteria. As I said in my edit summary when I declined to speedily delete the article, it should be discussed at articles for deletion. If you can't work out how to properly nominate it there, let me know what arguments you wish to use and I am happy to post the nomination for you. Hope that helps, —Kusma (t·c) 21:54, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Kusma, I could sure use your help. I am honestly at a loss on how to approach this, because I was able to successfully delete another Ford article based on fallacies. But apparently this P platform article isn't a one-size-fits-all or I must be missing something that I did last time. It just pains me to see that automotive news media tend to rely on iffy at best info on Wikipedia and make hearsay become fact by printing false information as credible, with no request for verification from Ford. In this respect, it's becoming hard to cite sources when this is becoming a phenomenon. Just trying to do damage control going forward and kill hearsay. I already did an AfD on this and it was rejected on questionable pretenses.

Carmaker1, I think it was just rejected because there was no rationale provided on the discussion page itself. The new discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ford P platform (2nd nomination), where you are welcome to explain more clearly why the page should be deleted. (Is there a reliable source that lists all of Ford's model platforms, for instance? That could help to show this one is a myth). Happy editing, —Kusma (t·c) 22:30, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Again thank you for your help, I now better understand what you mean. Looking through my own internal Ford records and numerous databases, neither are aligned particularly. The× biggest issue I do have is that T1 and T3 are very well defined 2006 to 2017, but pre-2006 is vague. T1 is the architecture of what the 2007 to 2017 Expedition and Lincoln Navigator used introduced in 2006. It was adopted by the 2009 P415 F150 in 2008 and used until the redesigned aluminum F-Series trucks called P552 and P558 were introduced on T3 in December 2014 and September 2016 respectively. The redesigned aluminum SUVs moved to T3 in late 2017. T3 will be retained by the upcoming P702 2021 F-150 and P708 Super Duty for 2023, as well as 2022 Expedition and Navigator U553 and U554. A replacement is being developed for mid-decade on future utilities and pickups.Carmaker1 (talk) 22:56, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Triple Crown

@Damien Linnane: Thank you! —Kusma (t·c) 16:49, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Translation request

Hello, since you were on the list of translators from German to English, I was wondering if you would be interested in translating de:Gerhard Schramm (Biochemiker). Regards, 70.172.136.61 (talk) 03:11, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm a bit too busy with non-wiki things at the moment, and the article would also need much better sources. Sorry, not now. —Kusma (t·c) 06:45, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

If anybody is looking for those sources https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/archive/show_people.php?id=11115 gives a hint of where to look. Agathoclea (talk) 10:03, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

I have removed myself from the list of translators for the moment. But we should definitely have an article about Schramm. —Kusma (t·c) 14:41, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Weavers' cottage (Kleinschwarzenbach, Zum Weberhaus 10)

I have not been logged in for a while, as RL has kept me busy, so I missed the discussion on that article. While I agree with your comment at the AfD in principle as there a a great number of listed buildings in Bavaria with very poor sourcing, your comment was in my mind sending the wrong signal. When there is an article on deWiki on any of those listed buildings it is as far as I am aware of them not just based on the listing itself, but also on published books on the subject. I mangaged to acquire one book out of the series that tends to get used a lot, and noticed that only a fraction of the listed buildings are covered in them. Those that are covered thre tend also to be covered in local print publication so there is a good chance on the articles passing on GNG alone. Agathoclea (talk) 09:27, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Agathoclea, well, "merge" versus "keep" is just a question of how we want to present content. In the case at hand, I wasn't too thrilled by the sources, and the article stated that there is essentially an ensemble of such houses that I think would make more sense to cover together than individually: for a good article, you'd need to talk about the history of weaving in this village in essentially every single one of them. Most of the AfD participants seemed to think all listed buildings in Germany should be eligible for standalone articles. I have no problem accepting that even if I disagree. Erring on the side of more articles about old buildings is certainly less harmful than erring on the side of more articles about non-notable BLPs... —Kusma (t·c) 13:41, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

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Italics on {{User es}}

Hi Kusma, I recently suggested adding |italic=no to {{lang}} on {{User es}} and its lower levels. The template editor isn't too keen on it, so I'd really appreciate if you could support me on Template talk:User es, seeing how you've made that same edit on {{User de}} and {{User fr}}. Thanks! Bernat (talk) 16:06, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

I think it is pretty obvious we should do this. enwiki is literally the only wiki that has some Babel templates italicized, for absolutely no benefit whatsoever. Commented at the template talk page. —Kusma (t·c) 16:29, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Osthofen concentration camp

On 18 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Osthofen concentration camp, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that at Osthofen concentration camp, the camp doctor declared all new arrivals healthy and medically fit for imprisonment, even if they had been mistreated before? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Osthofen concentration camp. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Osthofen concentration camp), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Abwertende Äußerung

Hallo Kusma, vor kurzem wurde ich persönlich abwertend als "Denunziant" bezeichnet ([1]). Da mir so etwas in den Commons erstmals passiert und der Nutzer mir gleichzeitig droht, weitere Kommentare oder Erläuterungen meinerseits als Vandalismus anzusehen, bitte ich um Unterstützung, wie unter Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (weitergeleitet von [2]) empfohlen. Hintergrund sind laufende Löschdiskussionen zu Documents regarding Dolgen manor und eine Meldung meinerseits ([3]). Vielen Dank im voraus, --ThT (talk) 12:28, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Das ist ziemlich not my department. Eine einmalige Bezeichnung als "Denunziant" würde ich einfach ignorieren. In der Tat ist fraglich, ob die Dokumente (a) authentisch sind und (b) auf Commons was zu suchen haben. Aber das sollen sie auf Common entscheiden. —Kusma (t·c) 13:48, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for not pinging you!

I didn't want to bother you with a ping about rule minutiae, but in retrospect I should have given you a ping. Sorry about that. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 16:57, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

@AleatoryPonderings: No problem at all! I am a relic from the time before pings :) Your edit just popped up on my watchlist, so I thought I'd check what was going on. Happy editing, —Kusma (t·c) 19:26, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

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Creating Kingston Stadium

I'd like to recreate the Kingston Stadium page. There's a warning there saying you previously deleted it for the reason, "G5: Creation by a banned user in violation of ban". Do you have any objection to my recreating it with the content at User:Pemilligan/sandbox/Kingston Stadium? -- Pemilligan (talk) 22:47, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Pemilligan, no objection at all. Please go ahead. —Kusma (t·c) 07:00, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. -- Pemilligan (talk) 14:06, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

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