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Happy editing! I hope you have fun on Wikipedia. I know i have. Happy editing, Cboi Sandlin (talk) 14:28, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

March 2021

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Honest editing

In this series of edits, you added the text "and food in Turkish cuisine is influenced by the food in Bulgarian cuisine". I don't know whether this is true, and you provide no evidence (sources) that it is. There are three problems here:

Original research is not allowed on Wikipedia. We base our articles on reliable sources, not our personal knowledge.
Verifiability is an important principle. Statements like this require sourcing.
Most seriously, you added this text to a sentence that already had a footnote (to Deutsch) which does not support that statement. That constitutes dishonesty, violating text-source integrity.

If you continue editing in this way, you may be subject to sanctions, including being blocked from editing. --Macrakis (talk) 18:46, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is true, many foods today in the Turkish cuisine were influenced by Bulgarian foods, many people think that Ottoman=Turkish only but it’s not true. The Ottoman Empire was multicultural and people still made their own foods. It is impossible for Turkey to not have influence from Bulgaria, and other Balkan countries as well from Middleastern countries. For example, you put that moussaka is from Turks when it’s not true. The moussaka itself originated in the Middleast in the Levant area, not Turkey which is why I tried to remove it because it is inaccurate but people in the Balkans make it a total different way with total different ingredients, same with every other foods. Another example is that you put that gyuvech is Turkish when it’s not. Gyuvech/ or Gyuveche which derived from the traditional Bulgarian clay pot in which is served in which the Turks do not have. Some words might be replaced with Turkish words because obviously Bulgarians have been under Ottoman Empire for 500 years and were forced to do many things. Bulgarians may also have a little influenced of Turkic languages not from the Turks, but from the Bulgars in which they descended from along with Thracians and Slavs. The Bulgars were a Turkic tribe from either Central Asia or they were from Eastern Iran, possibly mixed with both. Many foods in Turkey are actually from the Balkans or middleastern countries but they got away with it because of “ottoman” which is not fair at all. For example, Sarma is actually from the middleast and if you search it up you will see, but it still has a label on it as “ottoman” which automatically makes people think it’s Turkish. Turks have took so many foods from different cultures and have got so many influence from different cultures and it’s disrespectful to say that after all this, Bulgaria did not have an influence. It’s not only in food, it’s in culture and music too, for example, Turkish music is influenced by Greek, Armenian, Balkan, Persian, and etc.

Anyways, in Bulgaria, people make moussaka in a very different way that is different from other cultures. Bulgaria was under Ottoman for 500 years and we still made our own food, Turkish food is also influenced by Balkan food, especially Bulgaria and Middleastern food. Maybe I didn’t set it up correctly with sources but I’m new to this page and I’m not sure how to actually add sources onto the words like most Wikipedia pages do but for this you don’t even need sources, it’s common sense. Anyways, I will never put false information. Is there anyway you can explain how to put sources and footnotes? 2601:194:400:13E0:155A:B094:3285:A585 (talk) 00:48, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I also forgot to mention that you put a footnote (4) next to moussaka that says it originated in the middleast, the levant area, yet you still put that it originates from the Turkish cuisine. 2601:194:400:13E0:155A:B094:3285:A585 (talk) 00:57, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Re "It is impossible for Turkey to not have influence from Bulgaria" -- that may be true, but requires a source.

The cited source (Deutsch), which you removed, supports the text. Further discussion on Talk:Bulgarian cuisine. --Macrakis (talk) 15:57, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Re гювеч, I don't know where you get the idea that the clay pot called güveç is not found in Turkey (and in Greece, for that matter). It is, after all, a Turkish word; see güveç, Bulgarian etymological dictionary, Turkish etymological dictionary. --Macrakis (talk) 16:12, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did show a source, I showed a source stating that Turkey’s cuisine is influenced by the Balkans. And for the clay pot I said that the Thracian Clay pot is used in only Bulgaria, the Clay pots that Turkey and Greece use are just normal Clay pots and it doesn’t matter if it is a “Turkish word” it was replaced by a Turkish word because of ottoman. Are you Turkish? Why are you trying to steal Bulgarian food? Name≠food origin. Gyuvech was actually called the Thracian Clay pot and I know my culture more than you. Those pots are originally Thracian Clay pots that originated in Bulgaria and later got their name changed by Turks because they “colonized” Bulgaria. The source I removed does not support anything, you put a source saying moussaka originated in the Middle East in the levant area but yet you still said that it comes from Turkey. [1] and you seem to forget that Bulgaria is a balkan country and most Balkan food has a Bulgarian origin that spread throughout the Balkans, sir 2601:194:400:13E0:75A0:84B8:B79:EB57 (talk) 19:32, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, further discussion should happen on Talk:Bulgarian cuisine. I only contacted you on your user page because you seemed not to be aware of some Wikipedia policies around WP:OR, WP:V, and WP:HONEST. --Macrakis (talk) 20:12, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sir are you following me??? Why are you removing every edit I have made on wikipedia???? Are you working for Wikipedia or? Kpromx (talk) 03:02, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

First of al your keep saying “not reliable sources” they ARE reliable sources and you have no right following me and erasing everything I write when I actually stated sources. You have not used a reliable source ONCE and you have the audacity to talk to me about “sources”??? You obviously have a problem with me and whatever I wrote is true and I backed it up with reliable sources. Just because you don’t like how things are and you are ignorant does not mean you should act like a child. You need help And if I didn’t put a source for something you should write to me and tell me to add a source instead of erasing everything. You can’t choose which source is reliable or not, you just say “it’s not reliable” because you don’t like the statement that I put. I see that you choose your opinions over facts. You are behaving like a child and simply doesn’t want me to add any content in Wikipedia you sicko Kpromx (talk) 03:12, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please read our policy on personal attacks. If you continue in this vein, you may be sanctioned.

Please also review what we mean by reliable sources on Wikipedia. --Macrakis (talk) 14:30, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

April 2021

Hello, I'm Jingiby. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Chalga, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Jingiby (talk) 09:10, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Chalga, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you.

Hello I found a source, how can I re-add what I wrote? (I’m new to this and I I’m still learning how to edit things properly) Kpromx (talk) 17:10, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:Jingiby already pointed you to several pages on how to cite sources.

Besides the mechanics of citing sources, you also need to cite them honestly, without adding your personal interpretation. --Macrakis (talk) 19:40, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]