User talk:Konsash

Hey everyone, I am Konsash. I'm relatively new user editing articles related to Ukraine, Guitars, Chemistry. If you have and comments and suggestions, please leave them at this page. Thank you.

December 2016

1. Hello, I'm Serols. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —the one you made with this edit to Odessa— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Serols (talk) 11:26, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for comment, Serols. I'm Konsash. As of Dec 6, 2016, user Serols does not exist. It is strange that users reverting my edits (which are based on strong references including internal Wikipedia links) suddenly disappear. From your account log, your page has been deleted for 9 time already, so I can assume you rever of my edit and offensive comment that 'some government law cannot change English language' are not suitable. For your reference, changes about cities renamed by governments of specific countries should be reflected in Wikipedia. Thank you!

2. Hello, I'm 80.63.3.167. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. --80.63.3.167 (talk) 13:35, 3 December 2016 (UTC) Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. --80.63.3.167 (talk) 13:35, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you 80.63.3.167, for comments. I'm Konsash..I have just checked your user talk and multiple Wikipedia users stated that ""You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions"", "Anonymous users from this IP address have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for edit warring.", "you removed content without adequately explaining why.", and that you are "This blocked user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request.". I assume that 80.63.3.167 is a spam user violating Wikipedia policy and that his/her revert of my edit was unreasonable. 80.63.3.167 also stated on his/her talk page that "I'm not engaged in an edit war, it was my FIRST AND SINGLE revert." which does not represent reality from what I have seen on his/her user talk page. Thank you.

3. Hi Konsash, (Editwar at Crimea) I have reverted your latest edits at Crimea as it does not meet WP:NPOV. Please stop WP:EDITWARring, as you risk being blocked per WP:3RR as WP:NOTHERE. You may discuss the page's contents at Talk:Crimea or another review venue. That said, adding "Temporary" to "Russian administration (2014– )" is not acceptable because noone knows how long things will remain (regardless of whether you wish it to be a short time or not). I do not believe the detail in your longer edit is better in the Crimea article than under the article about the annexation (and note that such an article may describe how different relevant parties/countries/organisations have determined the annexation to be legal or illegal, but using a bare terms like "illegal" should be avoided for neutrality of tone). ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 14:22, 3 December 2016 (UTC) Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 14:55, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Hydronium Hydroxide, for comments. Since it has been one of my first edits, I did not understand why my comments were reverted and repeated the same action for several times. Thanks to you I have now checked those policies and will try to observe them while editing. I must agree that some of my edits were not meeting NPOW policy. However I must assume that adding for example Russian military intervention in Ukraine (2014–present) to articled where War in Donbass is mentioned does not violate any Wikipedia policies.

@Konsash::

(There has been some previous discussion on my page; this will be my last post on the matter)

When you're in a hole and don't want to be there, first stop digging. Reposting basically the same change as you did here, after you'd been warned multiple times to stop reverting and take it to talk is WP:NOTGETTINGIT.
Shooting the messenger is likewise counterproductive. It is (or should be) immediately obvious that User:Serols is an anti-vandal patroller, and their userpage has been deleted multiple times after accidental or deliberate invalid creation by others. Their userpage is red for the same reason that User:Konsash is. Odesa should be spelt "Odessa" on en-wiki per WP:COMMONNAME (The Odessa File (unrelated) is the first thing I think of...). It would have been nice for this to have been indicated, however.
Temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine is, as has been indicated by others at the AFD both WP:CRYSTAL and close enough to a redundant WP:POVFORK. That you created it after already having been warned about use of "temporary" regarding the annexation, is again WP:NOTGETTINGIT.
Changing War in Donbass to Russian military intervention in Ukraine (2014–present) is unhelpful at best. The former covers far more than just covert and Russian military actions.

It's unlikely that you'll be unblocked unless and until you really understand just off-base you've gotten, be able to demonstrate/explain how you understand the relevant policies and guidelines, and convince an admin that you're not going to repeat your current behaviour. Good luck - that's me done. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 09:32, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

4. POV edits regarding the East Ukraine conflict. Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Mikhail Tolstykh. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. --BurritoBazooka If you reply here, please add {{ping|BurritoBazooka}} to your message 14:31, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you BurritoBazooka, for comments. I disagree with your comment about policy violation. I suppose you ment a word 'terrorist' added to article Mikhail Tolstykh. Facts are not policy violation. You should have requesting adding a reference rather then reverting my edit. Thank you!

Temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted. The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Ymblanter (talk) 16:38, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Ymblanter, for comments. I have noticed that you have reverted around 8 of my edits without obvious reasons/explanations. Most of my edits were related to "Russian military intervention in Ukraine (2014–present)". My edits did not violate Wikipedia policy as the only thing I was doing is adding internal Wikipedia protected source reference to some other articles. You mentioned that adding of those reference did not change meaning of articles which is wrong. As example Crimea was annexed not because of "Ukrainian crisis" but because of 'Russian military intervantion.'. Change of meaning is reasonable, based on facts. Anyway, adding additional references (is what I did) cannot be considered a violation. Russian military intervention in Ukraine (2014–present) is a fact which caused Temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine (article which you to delete) to appear in Ukraine. Your request for deletion is not reasonable and not explained. In ALL my edits I operated with facts only confirmed on referenced Wikipedia sources. I also disagree with your opinion that Russian military intervention in Ukraine (2014–present) already described Temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine. For you reference you may check Wikipedia article Russo-Georgian War and Occupied territories of Georgia. Both articles do exist. That is why you comment on it has no logical explanation. What is more, is that you requested to block my account without any prior notice or warning. You should WARN users before blocking. I see that your first language is Russian and that you intensively deletes my edits related to Russian intervention in Georgia, Ukraine and Syria which are based on strong references from internal Wiki articles. Please note, that it is your subjective view only. Wikipedia is free encyclopedia for everyone, not just for Russian. Also please note that constant and unreasonable overuse of your administrator rights may cause you to be reported with consequences.. Thank you. If you have any further notices, please let me know. I would be more than happy to discuss them with you.

December 2016

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24h for WP:NOTTHERE--Ymblanter (talk) 16:41, 5 December 2016 (UTC). Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may request an unblock by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.[reply]

Reblocked indefinitely, no good edits at all.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:44, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Konsash (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Thank you Ymblanter, for comments. I have noticed that you have reverted around 8 of my edits without obvious reasons/explanations. Most of my edits were related to "Russian military intervention in Ukraine (2014–present)". My edits did not violate Wikipedia policy as the only thing I was doing is adding internal Wikipedia protected source reference to some other articles. You mentioned that adding of those reference did not change meaning of articles which is wrong. As example Crimea was annexed not because of "Ukrainian crisis" but because of 'Russian military intervantion.'. Change of meaning is reasonable, based on facts. Anyway, adding additional references (is what I did) cannot be considered a violation. Russian military intervention in Ukraine (2014–present) is a fact which caused Temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine (article which you want to delete) to appear in Ukraine. Your request for deletion is not reasonable and not explained. In ALL my edits I operated with facts only confirmed on referenced Wikipedia sources. I also disagree with your opinion that Russian military intervention in Ukraine (2014–present) already described Temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine. For you reference you may check Wikipedia article Russo-Georgian War and Occupied territories of Georgia. Both articles do exist. That is why you comment on it has no logical explanation. What is more, is that you requested to block my account without any prior notice or warning. You should WARN users before blocking. I see that your first language is Russian and that you intensively deletes my edits related to Russian military crimes in Georgia, Ukraine and Syria which are based on strong references from internal protected Wiki articles. Please note, that it is your subjective point of view only. Wikipedia is free encyclopedia for everyone, not just for Russians. Also please note that constant and unreasonable overuse of your administrator rights may cause you to be reported with consequences.. Thank you. If you have any further notices, please let me know. I would be more than happy to discuss them with you. Before further discussion such that you did not block other users without obvious reason you may refer to the following articles:

Konsash (talk) 05:43, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I see no understanding of the problems here, and resorting to attacking the blocking admin in this unblock request is only compounding things. Whatever one might think of the situation in Ukraine, Wikipedia is not an appropriate forum in which to try to push either nationalist viewpoint. If you have a personal and/or nationalist connection with the situation then it can be very hard to be objective (in the WP:NPOV sense) and it is probably better to keep away from the subject area. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:23, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.