User talk:KazaziShkodra
June 2024
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Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Meja massacre, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. Egsan Bacon (talk) 15:07, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Egsan,
- the source which i used for my edit is a well-detailed and complex court ruling against some of the serbian perpetrators & militia men. At page 402 it shows the names of the victims and albanians can easily distinguish between albanian catholic and albanian muslim names. Furthermore there is not a single actual source that claims that the victims were catholics at a whole. Not even the source attributed here by previous editors claims that. Albanian muslims that have lost family members in this massacre will be saddened seeing this. Please go through my source again and reassess your decision. Thanks KazaziShkodra (talk) 15:22, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- What you are describing as your method for determining this is original research. You are basing your information off of reading a primary source and making assumptions about the religions of various people by what their names were. That is your original research, and it's not how Wikipedia works. You need reliable secondary sources making the connection for you. If you have issues with what the article says, you should start a conversation on the talk page. Egsan Bacon (talk) 15:44, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Egsan
- i now understand that you find the method of determining to be original research and not the source that i have attached. Well, this might not be how Wikipedia works but it is how Albania works, especially in that period of time. Muslims would have islamic fore- or surnames while catholics would have catholic ones. Whatsoever, if that is not enough for you to acknowledge which confession these albanian victims have had, then why does the article still says it was catholic albanians when, again, there is no source that indicates such thing, not even the one on the article itself which is linked. I mean, that can't be Wikipedia either, right?
- I will consult a friend who is active on wikipedia and ask him if it is worth to open a conversation or if i should undo the changes but leave out the "muslim albanian" stuff and just say that the victims were albanians, without mentioning a religion.
- What are your thoughts on this? KazaziShkodra (talk) 16:07, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- What you are describing as your method for determining this is original research. You are basing your information off of reading a primary source and making assumptions about the religions of various people by what their names were. That is your original research, and it's not how Wikipedia works. You need reliable secondary sources making the connection for you. If you have issues with what the article says, you should start a conversation on the talk page. Egsan Bacon (talk) 15:44, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry I've been away for a few days, but I think your removing the religious mention from the infobox and explaining on the talk page was the right approach. Egsan Bacon (talk) 23:22, 1 July 2024 (UTC)