User talk:Kaufmännischer Verband Schweiz

January 2024

Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because your account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Also, your username gives the impression that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or web site, which is against the username policy.

If you intend to make useful contributions instead of promoting your business or organization, you may request unblock and a username change. In your reasons, you must:

Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the paid-contribution disclosure requirement; and
Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked; and
Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked; and
Provide a new username.

To do this, post the text {{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked.

Please note that the new username you choose cannot already be taken and in use by another account. You can go here to search and see if the username you'd like to choose is available. If the search returns that no global account with that username exists, that means it is available to be taken.

Appeals: If, after reviewing the guide to appealing blocks, you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal it by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your reason here" with the reasons you believe the block was an error, and publish the page. Bishonen | tålk 16:08, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kaufmännischer Verband Schweiz. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Swiss Commercial Association, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Kaufmännischer Verband Schweiz. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Kaufmännischer Verband Schweiz|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Just to be clear. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:39, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As stated in our username and previous communications, our account is operated by the Marketing and Communications department of the Swiss non-profit organisation Kaufmännischer Verband Schweiz, the '''Swiss Association of Commercial Employees'' (our official name in English). The Kaufmännischer Verband Schweiz beeing our employer, we fell necessary to update the Wikipedia article on our organisation, as some facts are not correct (for instance our official name in English) or need to be updated (new CEO, reelction of our president, strategy etc.) Our employer can be verified through our mail and domain (both kfmv.ch) As such, we kindly ask you to unblock our account, so that we can rectify the obsolte and wrongfull information published about our organisation. We are not sponsored or compensated for out edits. And our edits are not fulfilling any marketing or advertisment purposes. Thank you. Kaufmännischer Verband Schweiz (talk) 10:14, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KVS, would you like me to put your post into the template {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} as described in my yellow-boxed block notice above? Though I would really recommend you to read that block notice again, all of it, and follow the links in it, and then rewrite your appeal to make it more likely to help your case. If you click on my link paid-contribution disclosure there, you will see that being employed by the organization you write about does constitute being paid for your edits. And if you follow my link to the username policy, you will see why your current username is considered promotional. Also, I'd strongly recommend you to stop referring to yourself as "we". An account is for one person, and this must be apparent in the username, as also explained in the username policy.

Finally, did you miss Deepfriedokra's reply to you at UTRS? He asked you to Please follow the instructions on your talk page to request a new username and to address your promotional edits. To do this, post the text {{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with a description of the non promotional edits you would make.. Please try to follow these instructions. If you have trouble with the template (the curly brackets), I'll fix it for you. Unfortunately the template is technically necessary: it's what enables an uninvolved admin to find your unblock request and review it. Bishonen | tålk 10:54, 18 January 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Bishonen: Thanks for trying to educate. @Kaufmännischer Verband Schweiz: You need to change your username as well. So,

{{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}}

would be a better template to use. Yes, we know who your employer is. That's how we know how intense your conflict of interest is, which is why, once unblocked, you should refrain from editing the article and instead discuss on the article talk page about content and sourcing. You will need to use an unblock request template so a fresh member of the Unblock Review Team can look at your request. Thank you.. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are the second Marketing and Communications employee I've seen this week who claims to not be compensated. Your compensation need not be in money, and you go on to say, "our employer," so clearly the reading and heeding of WP:PAID is de rigueur. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:03, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UTRS appeal #83687

is closed. See boiler plates that follow. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:30, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy ping @Bishonen: -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:34, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first pages you edited was Swiss Commercial Association, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that page.

In addition, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for any contribution you make, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation to comply with our terms of use and our policy on paid editing.

Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Best practices for editors with close associations
Plain and simple conflict of interest guide
The five pillars of Wikipedia
Contributing to Wikipedia
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How to create your first article (using the Article Wizard if you wish)
Simplified Manual of Style
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If you've had a new article rejected or deleted, new article creation can be difficult, but the Article Wizard can help you. The new user tutorial can help you avoid future problems. You can also ask for help at the TEAHOUSE and on IRC chatAgain, welcome! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:31, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Due to your conflict of interest, it would probably be best to avoid editing the article directly, and instead to discuss content and sourcing on Talk: Swiss Commercial Association. Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:33, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]