User talk:Karnak666
Propaganda
[edit]The only propaganda here is your armenian propganda, I have provided several sources stating he is, you obviolusly have a problem with that so I suggest you take your pov pushing over to armeniapedia, it will be better appreciated over there, also dony make anymore outrageous comments like this [[1]] to be honest its more like the other way around, after hundreds of years your race was speaking our langauge and was living under the authority of the assyrian empire until finaly a guy named mesrob wrote the armenian langauge for you guys, I can go on forever with more evidence, if you continue to revert sourced material I will have you wiki-discplined. Ninevite (talk) 19:40, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I will try not to overreact to this racist comment of yours. Your sources do not prove anything. This new hype of Agassi having assyrian descent is nothing more than a lie pushed by assyrian nationalists like you who once again try to steal Armenian fame. Whats next? Is David Nalbandian having assyrian ancestry too? Stop this nonsense and stop claiming Armenian fame to be assyrian. Don't attempt to spread these outragous lies that Agassi has assyrian ancestry. (Karnak666 (talk) 18:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC))
- Just to let you know I have many Armenian cousins and family members for that pathetic racist comment you made of me. Second the only racist comment here was you stating that the Assyrians steal from other races because they dont have a culture of themselves, Keep you incompetent double standards for yourself and dont try to play the innocent guy here as you have mocked the heritage of over 4 million people [[2]] . Secondly I have have provided 4 sources which have been reviewed by a tennis expert who dismised your constant war editing. "Assyrian trying to steal Armenian fame" is just another unsourced, biased, racist comment of yours. I wont leave you anymore comments regarding this as I see below you have already been convicted of vandalism before and wiki disiplined. Ninevite (talk) 21:02, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Not only are you a racist but an obvious moron too. First I'm not interested at all of what ethnicity your family consists. I've never stated that 'assyrians steal from other races and they dont have a culture of themselves'. I challenge you to quote where I said such a thing. If you can't I suggest you shut your big assyrian mouth. On the other hand you are a filthy assyrian racist who wants to push up his assyrian agenda and not only that, you are a proven liar too.
- to be honest its more like the other way around, after hundreds of years your race was speaking our langauge and was living under the authority of the assyrian empire until finaly a guy named mesrob wrote the armenian langauge for you guys
- This despicable above comment of yours, which is full of lies, proves your dirty racist attitude towards Armenians. Your sources prove absolutley nothing, all of them are subjective and questionable of their validity. So why don't you just shut up and educate yourself a little more before you come and talk like a little piece of trash on my page. (Karnak666 (talk) 15:30, 3 January 2009 (UTC))
Sorry you don’t make any sense I suggest you write your comments in bullet points to get your irrelevant bigoted material across. You have some anger issues, the "moron" here is you, you have a problem with accepting reality and sources that dismiss your incompetent remarks, I see you are incapable of having a formal conversation as you have mocked above so I suggest you get off your high horse and learn some matters.
- The comment I made above regarding Armenians living under the Assyrian Empire is simply a fact, the Assyrian Empire ruled the ancient near east including turkey, iran, israel, iraq, lebanon, etc. If my remark above has offended you, I meant otherwise, it was simply a response towards your un-sourced biased response which I have provided up above with you regarding Assyrians as cultureless. Second the armenian langauge did not come into existence until a intelligent scholar named St. Mesrob [[3]] created it during the Christian Era, the lingua franca of the ancient world was Assyrian Aramaic, a language used by all cultures including the armeninas. So where exactly is the lie, if I have misunderstood something then please by all means prove me wrong with sources, I am open to think otherwise. No one here is perfect; I myself am quarter Armenian so I have absolutely no reason to make fun of anyone. Perhaps I have been given misinformation, and have come to personal judgement regarding that, Instead of labeling me all the names you can think of I am ready to engage in a civil conversation with you. Since you label me as uneducated perhaps you can take the time to educate where I you claim I lack complete knowledge.
- "Your sources prove absolutely nothing, all of them are subjective and questionable of their validity. So why don't you just shut up and educate yourself a little more before you come and talk like a little piece of trash on my page.” Do you find it necessary to use such vulgarity when met with some opposition. Click on the link above, its blue, If you have trouble opening it up thats not my problem, its yours, and dont tell me what to do alright, and as a final note you "This despicable above comment of yours, which is full of lies" is really the case above so stop contradicting yourself.
The only "trash" here is yours as proven up above. You have a vulgar mouth that needs to be cleaned out in order to progress on the matter. The only thing you have proven so far is that you lack proper communicational skills to speak with others who disagree with your minority views. • Dirty, Filthy, racist, trashy, big mouth, uneducated, moron And you say I am biased, uneducated, racist, again just another one of your contradictions, on this encyclopedia you have two choices be civil or get blocked indefinitely. If you’re so passionate in this then keep it as is, I don’t really care if states whether he is or not. I just came to provide some sources where you were simply undoing it because “it was Assyrians trying to steal fame from Armenians.” Instead odf spewing out degrading toxic material from your vulgar mouth comment on content, not on the contributor. As far as editing on those two article I will cease and put my concentration elsewhere in terms of Christian related articles. Instead of talking about the anicent past let us stay on topic. Again despite the incumbent, vociferous, impotent attacks you made at me Im am still willing willing to have a civil conversation with you I am open with all ears, perhaps we can learn something from one another. By not responding to this message I will have the answer regardless. Ninevite (talk) 20:43, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
"I suggest you get off your high horse and learn some matters."
And that coming from such a self-righteous man/woman.
- 1. You are uneducated. Armenians have lived under the leadership of many ancient empires, such as the Persian, Hellenic, Roman and, yes, including the Assyrian one. But that's irrelevant and doesn't prove anything at all. However you asserted that the "race" of Armenians living at that time (under the 'authority' of the Assyrian empire) had no language of their own and therefore spoke Assyrian and later on or as you put it 'finally' a "guy" came and wrote a language for this "race". This is not only an inflammatory and grossly provocative remark but also a proof of the congenital idiot you seem to be.
Firstly, there is no such thing as a "race" of Armenians. You brought up this despicable race related issue into being from the start in this debate. Educate yourself more about the term "race". You can hurt and insult people unwittingly.
Secondly, Armenians did have a language even thousands of years before the creation of the Assyrian empire. Our language is one of the oldest of the Indo-European tongues and is also closly related to Sumerian. The brilliant scholar St. Mashtots, may God illuminate his soul, actually re-created the Armenian Alphabet from lost fragments of a more ancient alphabet whom the ancient Armenians used before they adopted the cuneiform writing.
Furthermore the problem is how you put your words down. You tried to rise the suggestion that somehow the Assyrians were superior to Armenians in the past because they were living under their empire and Assyrians were providing 'the Armenian race' a language because they didn't have one of their own. I indeed considered this racist, trashy, dirty etcetera coming from you.
- 2. Assyrians too also lived under the Armenian empire for many decades, who covered much of the lands of Asia minor and the Middle East. Both empires fought many wars agianst eachother. Possibly Assyrians of that time spoke the Armenian language too. But that's a natural process because of the ruling authority. And doesn't mean you folks didn't have a culture of your own. Either you didn't understand this fundamental subject which makes you a person of subnormal understanding of history, thus a moron because you also deliberately provocated as seen on your inflammative choise of words, or you are indeed a mischievous and disgraceful character who started with insults from the begining and whom the words I used previously to describe you should suit very well.
This entire issue you brought up was completely irrelevant and unnecessary. We were debating about Agassi and not about how Armenians didn't have a language when they were living in Assyria. You could'nt stay on-topic. If you are truely willing to change your tone, change the way of behaviour you communicate with me, towards a more modest and normal manner I am willing take that step too and perhaps apologize for what I said earlier about Assyrians stealing Armenian fame. But at least I expect the same from your side. Maybe we both can come to a peacefull realization without the escalation the whole situation. (Karnak666 (talk) 10:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC))
- Very Well, if I have offended you, it was not meant to be so, I apologize for that, the only reason why I said that about the "race" and St. Mesrob was just my quick angered response towards the culture thing, it got out of hand and I should have said it more politely. I never instigated nor said the assyrians are superior or anything and I never would since that would be ethnic nationalism which has caused far more death and destruction in this world then arguably any other ideology. Let us put the name calling and cheap shots such as "Either you didn't understand this fundamental subject which makes you a person of subnormal understanding of history, thus a moron because you also deliberately provocated as seen on your inflammative choise of words, or you are indeed a mischievous and disgraceful character who started with insults from the begining and whom the words I used previously to describe you should suit very well" aside and move on. There is no need for that, also if you would like delete everything stated above on the grounds that we have both matured, and have moved on, and that we really did not mean the caustic words we threw at each other. Let us put our past behind us, the Assyrians, and the Armenians have many cultural achievements, including being the first peoples to accept the teaching of the lord JEsus christ, we both have a rich cultured history dating from ancient times to the present, we both suffered at the hands of the ottomans, 80% or 750,000 assyrians lost their lives as well as 1.5 million armenians. Let us move on forward, thank you for telling me about the historical background of the langauge as well as the Armenian Kingdom. I have gained some important knowledge regarding this. Ninevite (talk) 23:49, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
January 2009
[edit] The recent edit you made to Andre Agassi constitutes vandalism, and has been reverted. Please do not continue to vandalize pages; use the sandbox for testing. Thank you. Inferno, Lord of Penguins 19:09, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Edit warring about the Andre Agassi article
[edit]Your edit warring has been reported here. Tennis expert (talk) 17:43, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Blocked: 24h
[edit]For edit warring [4], etc and incivility [5], etc William M. Connolley (talk) 19:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Edit warring about the Emmanuel Agassi article
[edit] You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Emmanuel Agassi. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Tennis expert (talk) 20:09, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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