`User talk:K1401986`

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Date of ingenuity flight

Hi K1401986, you reverted my change of giving the UTC date and time as "original work". For the date a have a reference that I accidentally didn't give right at first time. I think the calculation it is WP:NOR since the its at the level of an 8th grader. The discussion with level should be allowed as routine calculation has not settled. It ranges form "trivial to the broad public" which IMHO would not even allow the calculation of an age from a birth date to allowed if the ancient Egyptians could to this. See WT:No_original_research#Add_time_zone_shift_as_example_for_routine_caculation?. There are not a lot participant. I would be happy if you would contribute. For the calculation I made a template prototype, usage see User:Schrauber5/testMarstime2, with all the flights as an example, explanation of the calculation is there: [[1]].

I would like to know at which point we disagree: Do you think the date 22. (UTC) or time is wrong? Do you think the conversion is more difficult then 8th grade level? At which level would you stop considering something as routine calculation? Schrauber5 (talk) 06:25, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Schrauber5. I think the date 22 is wrong. The image was acquired at 12:34 local time. How do you convert that mars time to UTC? There aren't any online calculators to do it and it is certainly not trivial. K1401986Talk with me 16:01, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The conversion is quite easy. I assume that we have a reference event were we know the Earth time and the Mars time. This is true for all the flight except the last. (eg. given by space.com). If the new event is 1 Sol later, just add 1 Sol (=24:39:35) to the Earth time of the reference event. If it's (as in case of flight #8 compared to #7) 13 Sol later just add 13*(24:39:35)=320.576h = 13d 8:34. If you add this to flight #7 June 8, 2021, 15:54 you get June 22, 0:28. (We do not need to care about the local Mars time since all the flights take place at almost the same local time 12:34 +- 1min. But its easy to adjust this too: if there is a difference just correct the time by that: If a flight takes place at 12:30 subtract 4 minutes from the result, if it takes place at 12:40 add 6 minutes). In my template I use flight5 as reference with Sol=76,Mars_time=12:34, UTC_ref=2021-05-07 19:26:00. Result is then: June 22, 2021 at 0:29 (UTC). If you use a spreadsheet you just put 2021-05-07 19:26:00 in cell A1, 24:39:35.244 in B1 and calculate C1 for Sol 120 as =A1+(120-76)*B1.

Unfortunately at the images NASA gives the UTC date (without writing it down there) but on twitter and in the reports they use the date of the Californian time zone PDT.

Now clear? Schrauber5 (talk) 17:27, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Thank you.K1401986Talk with me 18:11, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think it's easy enough to be considered an routine calculation? Schrauber5 (talk) 18:21, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I think so. Thanks for clarifying. K1401986Talk with me 18:26, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Ingenuity for deletion

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