User talk:Justice Malanot
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July 2013
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August 2014
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Your addition to Meatmaster has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text, or images borrowed from other websites, or printed material without a verifiable license; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:36, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- I should have left you a milder warning than this one when I previously removed that content, but it seems I forgot to; I'm sorry about that. Anyway, I'd have thought the warning on the talk-page of the article was clear enough. Please now be clearly aware that if you add copyright-infringing content to Wikipedia again, I intend to ask that you be blocked from further editing. I don't mean that you shouldn't edit here, you are welcome to of course; but please make sure that nothing you add to the project is copied from elsewhere. And, of course, that anything you add is supported by independent reliable sources. Thank you, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:45, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
To: User:Justlettersandnumbers
You have it all wrong. kindly see From: SNS Designs @ snsdesigns.co.za Sent: 01 September 2014 12:15 PM To: hoofkantoor @ biotechtreelucerne.com Subject: Fwd: Copy Right clear up =Meatmaster Sheep information and Justice Malanot
Good day Mr Malanot
I am the webmaster of www.lenasialivestock.co.za and we have various breed descriptions on the website. I hereby confirm in writing that the information of the Meatmaster sheep comes from the Wikipedia page and that I am not the original source of the information.
I have been contacted by Mr Justice Malanot, the South African moderator of the Meatmaster Sheep page and a Wikipedia Editor. It appears the fact that I put up a copyright sign for the design of the lenasia website has caused a Wikipedia editor called Justlettersandnumbers to lodge a copyright dispute against Mr Justice Malanot and caused the Wikipedia Meatmaster Sheep page to be deleted.
Kindly resolve this dispute correctly by restoring the original Meatmaster sheep entry that MrMalanot and the Meatmaster Sheep group contributed. I am not the original of the work but had simply copied and pasted the very good informative Meatmaster Wikipedia entry and used it on the Lenasia livestock page. Apologies for any inconvenience caused
Sincerely
Ebrahim Khan 082 922 6242 l 071 609 1460 info@snsdesigns.co.za
From: info @ snsdesigns.co.za [1]
Sent: 01 September 2014 12:20 PM
To: Head Office Biotech Tree Lucerne
Subject: Re: Copy Right clear up =Meatmaster Sheep information and Justice Malanot
Pleasure
I'm busy rebuilding the website and will include that information was taken from wikipedia to avoid any further implications.
Warm regards Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ________________________________________ From: "Head Office Biotech Tree Lucerne" <hoofkantoor @ biotechtreelucerne.com> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:17:33 +0200 To: 'SNS Designs'<info@snsdesigns.co.za> Subject: RE: Copy Right clear up =Meatmaster Sheep information and Justice Malanot
Tnx
Further Background information:
1) I, Justice Malanot, am the moderator of the Facebook Meatmaster Page with more than 800 users in a dozen countries as breeders.
2)With the input of more than 800 users on the FB Meatmaster sheep page I wrote up the additional information about the Meatmaster Sheep breed as per the Wikipedia Edit history.
3)The Meatmaster Sheep Breed Soeciety members were all happy with it as you can verify on the FB Meatmaster page where the Wiki page have been discussed -see the history posted below. The consensus after input from many people were = good job. It is a very good breed description.
3)The Lenasia Livestock webmaster copied the Meatmaster Wikipedia entry word for word -and put it under his breed description for the Meatmaster sheep on his page=and he then added a general Copyright notice at the bottom of the page. I. Justice Malanot, did not steal the copyrighted material from him -he copied it and pasted it from the Meatmaster Sheep Wikipedia page to his Lenasialivestock page. See http://www.lenasialivestock.co.za/sheep2.html and compare it to the information put together by myself on the FB Meatmaster paga eat an earlier date at https://www.facebook.com/groups/218924401492677/?ref=ts&fref=ts and the Meatmaster Sheep Wikipedia entry under the edit history.
4)Kindly indicate what I did wrong specifically and how I can improve.
5)There are more than 800 Meatmaster breeders on the Meatmaster FB Page and they were all happy with the Wikipedia entry and information. The fact that the high level of accurate information was then copied by people giving a breed description on their own commercial pages should not be a problem. The real issue is that they should credit Wikipedia as the source. As per the email from the webmaster this is now being done.
There is no copyright infringement from Justice Malanot from the Lenasia page as alleged and miscommunicated by User:Justlettersandnumbers. That information was gathered by the person from Wikipedia and is a copy and paste of my original summary contribution -look at the Wiki reference numbers as a dead give away of the copy and paste.
Sincerely
Justice Malanot Facebook Meatmaster Sheep page Moderator
Justice Malanot (talk) 07:02, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
Herewith the FaceBook Meatmaster Sheep information and copy right permission from https://www.facebook.com/groups/218924401492677/?ref=ts&fref=ts#
Public GroupPublic Group Origin and Overview A group of South African farmers experienced the tremendous advantages of fat-tailed hair breeds regarding fertility, resistance to various diseases, resistance to external and internal parasites, and durability and survival skills in times of extreme drought, herding instinct to protect the herd from predators and good strong teeth ensuring a long lifespan. They also realised that not only in South Africa but world wide these breeds lacked two vital components preventing them becoming highly sought after economic meat producers. That was fat localisation with poor distribution and lack of muscling leading to flat sidedness and late maturity. In the early nineteen nineties (1990), determined to utilise the advantages of the indigenous fat tailed hair breeds and realising the huge gap between the fat tailed breeds and the well muscled British and European breeds and the need world wide for a truly good pure hair breed with good meat qualities, it was decided to develop a composite breed. Various fat-tailed breeds were thus crossed with well muscled breeds and the dream of the Meatmaster emerged. The Meatmaster is a composite sheep breed in South Africa. It is bred as a non-fat tailed hair-type sheep for meat production. It offers farmers an alternative with unique characteristics to meet the needs of a huge market in South Africa and around the world. At the moment Meatmaster breeders are found mainly in the central and Western extensive sheep breeding areas of South Africa. Meatmasters are however represented in all 9 Provinces of South Africa and are becoming increasingly popular in agricultural areas with a need for a sheep breed with extreme easy care and high production. The breeds greater resistance to tick born diseases and strong herd instinct is also leading to a big demand for Meatmasters in the Northern Bush veld areas of South Africa. The Meatmaster was registared as a breed in 2007 and the Meatmaster Breed Society as a society in 2008. By posting pictures on this Facebook page you agree that they may be used on Wikipedia to describe the Meatmaster Breed
Herewith the picture copyright permissions
Also: From: Anysberg Boerdery [2] Sent: 25 August 2014 07:00 PM To: hoofkantoor@boomlusern.co.za Subject: Permission for Wikipedia
Good evening,
I, Boemie Saaiman, hereby give permission to Justice Malanot to use my Meatmaster pictures on Wikipedia as an example of the Meatmaster breed.
Kind regards Boemie Saaiman
From: kernmeatmasters [3] Sent: 27 August 2014 01:14 PM To: hoofkantoor@boomlusern.co.za Subject:
Good day
I, Klaas Grobler, hereby give permission to Justice Malanot to use my Meatmaster picture on Wikipedia as an example of the Meatmaster breed.
Klaas Grobler
Sent from Samsung Mobile
Posting on the FB Meatmaster Page
https://www.facebook.com/groups/218924401492677/?ref=ts&fref=ts#
Herewith a request for guidance when I could not get a response from the editors alleging copyright infringement.
From: Head Office Biotech Tree Lucerne [4] Sent: 27 August 2014 09:41 AM To: 'permissions-commons@wikimedia.org' Subject: Note on Meatmaster FB Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/218924401492677/?ref=ts&fref=ts#
Greetings everyone on the FB Meatmaster page Just a heads up - the information I wrote for Wikipedia and the Meatmaster Sheep Breed entry about the Meatmaster Sheep Breed is currently in dispute. A Wikipedia Editor called Justlettersandnumbers claim that the breed description summary information that was written by Justice Malanot is in fact a copyright violation from [5]. This Lenasia person obviously copied the very good breed description from Wikipedia and put it on his commercial page- but did not credit it to Wikipedia -even though the reference numbers are clearly visible. I post this entry on the Meatmaster page so that Wikipedia can confirm that the information originated from myself as a Moderator both on the Meatmaster Sheep Facebook page and as a Wikipedia Editor -and to rebuff the false accusation of copyright infringement. I also point out that the Meatmaster FB Group has a policy that if you post your Meatmaster Sheep Pictures on this group you are explicitly agreeing that these pictures may be selected by the moderators as examples of the Meatmaster Breed in general. If anyone does not agree with this kindly contact me. We aim to keep our breed description accurate and to remain as up to date as possible. As a general rule I am using Boemie Saaimans pictures because he is a moderator on this page and has given me written permission to use his pictures for breed description purposes. Kindly take a look at the current Wikipedia Meatmaster Sheep entry that has been reverted to: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Meatmaster You will agree with me that it is inaccurate and in dire need of an update. We hope that Wikipedia will allow the update to stand. Sincerely Justice Malanot
Lastly, in order to finaly refute the allegation of copyright infringement-compare this public notice on the Meatmaster FB page with the Edit history of the Meatmaster Page.
Herewith proof of the original edit with input, revisions and feedback on the Meatmaster FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/218924401492677/search/?query=Wiki
Justice MalanotMeatmaster Sheep 24 July ·
Hi Meatmaster enthusiasts
Kindly see our new Wikipedia Page:
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Meatmaster Meatmaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Meatmaster is a breed of domestic sheep native to South Africa. Bred in the early 1990s from various hair sheep breeds, the Meatmaster was created with the goal of improving the meat characteristics of... wiki.riteme.site LikeLike · · Share · 1414
Daniel Wheeler, Tamen Uinuseb, Susan Steenkamp and 11 others like this. Justice Malanot I used some pictures that i had of sheep that have been posted on this page - Boemie some of are yours and some of the older ones I cant remember. Found a editor that helped us. 24 July at 20:41 · Like Justice Malanot the old pic as per the photo above was atrocious. The 4 new photos much better. 24 July at 20:42 · Like Robbie G. Hughes Thank you to who ever wrote this very interesting page. I agree with the way " very much " how Rams are put up for selection 24 July at 20:56 · Edited · Unlike · 2 Justice Malanot I wrote most of it Robbie but the sheep shown are from our esteemed Breeders en Members on this page. 24 July at 21:10 · Like · 1 Robbie G. Hughes Congratulations 24 July at 21:12 · Like Willie Griesel Uitstekend Justice! 24 July at 21:51 · Unlike · 1 Jack Mothiba Good job Justice,,,, 25 July at 13:17 · Unlike · 1 Daniel Wheeler Great job Justice Malanot. 25 July at 20:36 · Unlike · 1 Lloyd Dunlop Great page Justice Malanot 27 July at 13:03 · Unlike · 1 Boemie Saaiman Goeie werk Justice Malanot dankie. 27 July at 19:26 · Unlike · 1 Johan van Niekerk Goeie beskrywing...sien onder "renowned breeders" ene Danie du Plessis....weet nie van hom nie of moet dit dalk Danie Visser wees? 27 July at 20:57 · Unlike · 2 Justice Malanot My fout. Sal dit regmaak, tnx Johan. 27 July at 21:16 · Like · 1 Justice Malanot Hi Danie Visser, ek het jou van nou reg gespel en het ook Stephan Kirsten op die lys gesit van befaamde telers. Loer hom nou. 28 July at 08:35 · Edited · Like · 1 Justice Malanot Kernmeatmasters Klaas Grobler jy is nou ook gelys as befaamde teler -een van jou Ramme is een van die prag fotos. 28 July at 08:52 · Edited · Like · 1
If there is anything I can do to improve the Wikipedia process kindly help me to master the skillset required.
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November 2014
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Hello, I'm Jojalozzo. I noticed that you made many changes to an article, Cytisus proliferus, but you didn't provide any reliable sources. If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial. Content that cannot be verified by reliable sources will be deleted. Unless you can supply references, most everything you have ever contributed may be removed, which would be a great shame. Cheers. Jojalozzo 15:05, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi
I am busy adding more references to the condensed summary. Give me a few days, it is a work in progress.
Sincerely