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2018–19 European Rugby Champions Cup team attendances

Hi Jordan8396. Have noticed your updates to the European Champions Cup page - really good and nice to have someone else doing some of the work as well! However, with regards to the average attendances I think it would be a good idea to keep the teams venues combined (e.g. Leinster play at RDS and Aviva) so that there is just one attendance row per team. I have a spreadsheet that combines the two and accounts for capacity % of ground. All the other rugby competition pages combine the attendances and have done for past seasons as well (sometimes all the way back to 2000-01). Although the individual figure for each ground is interesting I believe that it would cause a degree of confusion in the future as well as being inconsistent with other pages. Let me know what you think and keep up the good work. Jgjsmith006 (talk) 23:16, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Hey Jgjsmith006. Thanks for letting me know. I will happily remove the additional row I added for Leinster, since you know the how it has been done previously. And upon revision, I agree that for consistency across other pages it is better to only have the single row. --Jordan8396.ja (talk) 22:33, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Jordan8396. Like what you've done with the top scorers - I have added links. Another thought that has occurred to me is that this competition is once more sponsored by Heineken. Do you think that we should rename the page or keep it as European Rugby Champions Cup? Jgjsmith006 (talk) 23:38, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Jgjsmith006, Thanks for adding the links and flags to the player stats. It does appear on the official website that the championship name has reverted back to Heineken Champions Cup. So I'd say change the page name to reflect the official branding. Also, this is the way the tournament is being promoted so in notability terms it would be beneficial for the public to search the advertised name and find what they are looking for more easily (as personally I was confused to begin with as to whether the two names of the championship were synonymous) --Jordan8396.ja (talk) 22:49, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Jordan8396. Will look into it sometime over the weekend and see if I can get any new sources to confirm. Jgjsmith006 (talk) 00:03, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Good afternoon Jordan8396. Following our discussion I Have added some linked sources and initially changed the page names to Heineken Champions Cup. However, after advice from another user we have decided to keep the current name. Partly this is due to Wiki guidelines on sponsorship and also it the name European Rugby Champions Cup is clearer that Heineken Champions Cup, although any search results using that name will still be redirected to the current European Rugby Champions Cup. Also the competition is still run by EPCR so regardless of name change it is still the fifth edition of the version run by them. Another suggestion was that any thoughts are discussed at WT:RU to avoid confusion. Thanks also for your edits with the results section yesterday. I have used them to update attendances and player stats. Jgjsmith006 (talk) 13:36, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jgjsmith006, That's not a problem, as long as it is still easily searchable. i think using the WT:RU page we for thes discussions is a good idea, especially with the added fact of more opinions there too. Also nor a problem in regards to the stats, i like to keep things up to date as close to real-time as the can be (post-match obviously). I Also had a thought of trying to find a template or notice to put at the top of the page to notify visitors it is a "work in progress" and is updated regularly. What's Your thought on this, and would it be worth asking in other wider discussions (such as the WT:RU project page)? --Jordan8396 (talk) 00:13, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

I think personally that could be a good idea, as is putting this forward for discussion on WT:RU. PeeJay is another editor you might want to discuss this with. Jgjsmith006 (talk) 10:36, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

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