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December 2019

Dakota Junior Senior High School

John,

I am a good friend of the new superintendent of the Dakota School District. His name is Jason Grey and his Junior/Senior High School principal is Randall (Randy) Bay.

This information can be confirmed at the following website: https://www.ihsa.org/Schools/SchoolDirectory.aspx?url=/data/school/d.htm

Please take a look and be certain, I am not trying to sabatoge a page that I originated.

Thanks

Cary, NC edits

Hey John,

I don't edit much, but thought the edits I had made to the Cary, NC page were safe and don't understand why they were undone. I had updated the dates in the sports section from

2009-2014 NCAA Division II Baseball Championship

to

2009-2016, 2018-2019 NCAA Division II Baseball Championship

Why was this removed?

Thanks, Bob (MdVaNc) MdVaNc (talk) 00:39, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Without a link to the edit in question, I cannot say for certain. My guess is you added an achievement of some variety without providing a reliable published source. John from Idegon (talk) 00:44, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

But the same dates can be found if you click the link next to my date change. NCAA Division II Baseball Championship is hyperlinked to the Wiki page that has the same information. I was trying to keep the Cary, NC page up to date. Was I supposed to reference the link that is right next to the dates? Thanks for helping me on this. From what I can tell, you reversed my changes on September 18, 2019. https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Cary,_North_Carolina&action=history

MdVaNc (talk) 01:10, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

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Article: Harriton High School. Section: Clubs. Subsection: Latin Club and Certamen

Hello John, I noticed you removed the Latin Club/Certamen section on the Harriton wikipedia page earlier today, so I reverted that edit and posted on the talk section why. You then once more removed my edit and told me not to edit war. I'd just like to set the record straight on one thing: I wasn't attempting to edit war, I was just doing what I thought correct with my reasons posted on the talk page. I'll summarize/clarify here: The section is very similar to the Science Olympiad section with comparable citations and the like. It is currently a club at harriton (again the citations), and as such deserves to be on the post just as much as any of the other clubs. Thus, it should be put back. I hope this doesn't come across as angry/annoyed, that wasn't the intention. Thanks! MageNicho (talk) 03:03, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) I'm sure you meant well, but it would've been better for you to follow WP:BRD after the content was removed the first time; simply trying to re-add it (particularly without leaving any explanation and based upon the edit summary you left the first time you added the content back in November) did make it seem like possible edit warring. Anyway, I posted a more detailed comment on the article's talk page in response and perhaps JfI will also post something there as well. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:12, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Hamilton "Garbage Resources"

I am going to assume you have an issue with one paragraph and appeared to very wrapped up in it. So which of these sources do you believe is garbage.

Wiley, Elizabeth (September 21, 2017) [March 31, 2017]. "Court documents reveal details of hazing 'traditions' at Hamilton High School". KPNX. Retrieved December 19, 2017.
Writer, Kevin Reagan, Tribune Staff. "Chandler Unified settles suit for Hamilton hazing". East Valley Tribune. Retrieved 2019-12-08.
Cano, Ricardo (September 25, 2017). "Hamilton (Ariz.) principal, football coach, and AD reassigned in wake of hazing investigation". The Arizona Republic. Retrieved December 19, 2017 – via USA Today High School Sports.
"No coach or administrator will be charged in Hamilton hazing case, county attorney says". KPNX. Retrieved 2019-12-08.

Editor, Zach Alvira, Tribune Sports. "Hamilton High ready for new era under Mike Zdebski". East Valley Tribune. Retrieved 2019-12-08.

- PigSkinsAndComputers (talk) 01:45, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

PigSkinsAndComputers, what's with the passive-aggressive "you appeared to be very wrapped up in it"? Please adjust your language or I will be happy to block you. Also, Revolvy and Chandlerpedia are indeed garbage sources. Drmies (talk) 01:48, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

The Revolvy source was the only one that I could find that had that material in it. Considering there is a large box asking for citations, that was the best I could do. As for the Chandlerpedia, that is curated by the City of Chandler Historical Society. Even though it is horribly named, it actually is a good source. PigSkinsAndComputers (talk) 01:54, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)What Doc said. Although we encourage BOLD editing, and at this point you are following WP:BRD, so neither of us have done anything wrong on the article. Doc noted your passive-aggressive attitude, which is unwarranted. You are brand new here, and I can promise you, Wikipedia doesn't work like you think it does. Every new editor has gross misconceptions; every single one. But what is happening here is Wikipedia works exactly. Only problem is the location. This conversation should be held at the article's talk page. Once you go there, you will see the controversy on our coverage of the hazing incident has been long. There is a current consensus on how we are covering it. You are required to revisit that and gain consensus for your changes. Lose the attitude (perhaps a read of WP:OWN may help you adjust it), and make arguments based in reliable secondary sources and Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Do this dispassionately. It isn't personal. I hope you understand, and I'll leave some info on your talk page to help you. Thanks for the hand, Drmies. John from Idegon (talk) 02:04, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Peace Dove

Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, peoples rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Happy Holidays to you and yours. ―Buster7 ☎ 00:01, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Removal of Information Descriptions for my school

Hello John,

My name is Matthew and I am a student at Anoka High School. I see that you have deleted my edits on the Anoka High School Wikipedia Page, as well as accusing me of Schoolcruft. I apologize to the Wikipedia community for my repeated edits, but it was not Schoolcruft, considering the fact that I am currently enrolled at Anoka High School. If anything, You're repeated edits on the AHS Page and multiple other pages proves that you are guilty of Schoolcruft. I would just like to clear up that the edits on the "Pipe Day" incident were only to better the community, and make it look more professional. I had done it repeatedly because I kept realizing ways I could make the description better. I do like your inclusion of the lock considering the repeated vandalism on the page, but it does prevent me and many others who would like to make real edits on the page from doing so. So if possible, it would be great if you could at least temporarily remove the lock so i could re-include my contribution.

Thanks, Matt MatthewTheMemer (talk) 00:52, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

I suggest that you read the information about Wikipedia at Wikipedia:Five pillars before editing again. Your edit about the "Pipe Day" incident did not improve the article or make it look more professional, It was indeed "schoolcruft". - Donald Albury 01:17, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

MatthewTheMemer, the page is locked in part due to your "improvements", which are in no way an improvement and show a not untypical total ignorance of what an encyclopedia article is. When you figure out what an encyclopedia actually is, you'll then need to determine if you have the intellectual, social and emotional maturity to participle in the collaborative environment we have here in order to create this encyclopedia. Until then, please limit your contributions to Facebook and Instagram. No one takes that crap as anything serious, unlike Wikipedia. In case you are serious about contributing, I'll leave you some info on how to contribute on your talkpage. But my guess is you are more motivated by trying to publicize this totally unremarkable non-achievement by your school than making a real contribution to the quest for summarizing the sum of world knowledge in one place. There is no need to continue this discussion. If you have questions, there will be links on your talk page to help you figure it out. My time, like anyone's, is both rare and valuable. I refuse to waste it on folks as clueless as you. Please do not reply. Hope you begin to get it. Bye. John from Idegon (talk) 23:58, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Percy Jackson Grammar School

Many thanks for your comment, John. Appreciated. It is encouraging to see Wiki has a 'schools' specialist. I was somewhat miffed to find that high schools need 'notability', as there are many Wiki Articles on schools which do not seem to me to be more notable than Percy Jackson GS. However, I now accept the view that my draft could be incorporated within the successor establishment Outwood Academy Adwick. As you appreciate, I am an absolute novice at editing and I find it very difficult. Would it be asking too much for you to move my draft and incorporate it within the Outwood Academy Adwick? I and the alumni would be grateful. Regards. Kenpj Kenpj (talk) 23:18, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Kenpj, I'm far from an expert on secondary schools, but thanks. My specialty is US secondary schools and as such, I'd be a poor choice for what you ask. I'd suggest you mention this on the discussion thread where it originated at. Any of the other three editors who responded there are all much better on British ed subjects than I. John from Idegon (talk) 23:43, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks again for your help. As you suggest, I will work through the other Wiki contacts. Kenpj (talk) 23:59, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Cheers

Damon Runyon's short story "Dancing Dan's Christmas" is a fun read if you have the time. Right from the start it extols the virtues of the hot Tom and Jerry

This hot Tom and Jerry is an old-time drink that is once used by one and all in this country to celebrate Christmas with, and in fact it is once so popular that many people think Christmas is invented only to furnish an excuse for hot Tom and Jerry, although of course this is by no means true.

No matter what concoction is your favorite to imbibe during this festive season I would like to toast you with it and to thank you for all your work here at the 'pedia this past year. Best wishes for your 2020 as well JfI. MarnetteD|Talk 04:53, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for the memories. My parents did something at the Elks Lodge every New Years Day that involved T&Js. And bean soup! Me...I'm 12 years sober January 30. John from Idegon (talk) 04:58, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm glad it brought back some memories JfI. Many Many Congrats on the sobriety!! MarnetteD|Talk 06:22, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019

Reviewer of the Year

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

Top 10 Reviewers over the last 365 days
Rank	Username	Num reviews	Log
1	Rosguill (talk)	47,395	Patrol Page Curation
2	Onel5969 (talk)	41,883	Patrol Page Curation
3	JTtheOG (talk)	11,493	Patrol Page Curation
4	Arthistorian1977 (talk)	5,562	Patrol Page Curation
5	DannyS712 (talk)	4,866	Patrol Page Curation
6	CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk)	3,995	Patrol Page Curation
7	DragonflySixtyseven (talk)	3,812	Patrol Page Curation
8	Boleyn (talk)	3,655	Patrol Page Curation
9	Ymblanter (talk)	3,553	Patrol Page Curation
10	Cwmhiraeth (talk)	3,522	Patrol Page Curation

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

Redirect autopatrol

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.

Source Guide Discussion

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.

This month's refresher course

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag.

Delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 16:10, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Cheers

Merry Christmas, John from Idegon!
Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:12, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks onel5969. Merry Christmas, and may the love of the season envelope you and yours for the coming year. John from Idegon (talk) 19:09, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Richmond City Council (Richmond, California)

Hey can you help me improve this and related pages?Ndołkah (talk) 09:42, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Can you help me with the references at this page?Ndołkah (talk) 09:43, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

You don't need to start two sections on the same subject. I dealt with the article appropriately. John from Idegon (talk) 16:22, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy holidays!

Hi 'John'! All the warmest wishes for this seasonal occasion, whichever you celebrate - or don't, while I swelter at 27℃ (80.6℉), and peace and prosperity for 2020. Seriously hoping that you'll join me for a cool beer in Bangkok in August when it will be even hotter! Oh, and it's it's time you put your name back up there as one of the coords - you've never really stopped ;)
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk)

Thanks, Chris! (Do you ever find yourself beginning an email with a colon? Lol, the hazards of Wikipedia). Merry Christmas to you and yours. My prayers for the New Year will include better health for us both. I'm planning on honoring your above request as an anniversary present to Wikipedia, so around the end of February if things stay on the rails. 18 months, and finally the docs are making some progress. John from Idegon (talk) 17:10, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

I'd gladly take some of your heat, but I'd rather have some polar cold, at least today and tomorrow. It's 45°F here and raining. John from Idegon (talk) 18:21, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy holidays

All the best for a happy holiday, and a new decade of Wikipedia editing. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 13:08, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Mag. Christmas is so much better with the pitter patter of little feet, ya? May the love of the Lord envelope you and yours in the coming year! John from Idegon (talk) 18:04, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

A yule log for you!

	Mmm...
	Here's hoping for a wonderful holiday season for you and yours! Lepricavark (talk) 16:33, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Hello John from Idegon: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Everedux ^(talk) 19:21, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message

Thanks, Everedux. May the blessings of the season follow you throughout the new year. John from Idegon (talk) 19:40, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

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Input needed at Talk:Minneapolis

If you or one of your many talk page watchers could have a look at Talk:Minneapolis I'd appreciate your input. I've edited a number of city articles, and maybe I'm missing something. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:37, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Overlinking

You reverted here, asserting overlinking. But I don't think that's even close to overlinking. Please explain. --2604:2000:E010:1100:580F:1D87:8D13:5C7C (talk) 00:54, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) PLease see MOS:OVERLINK for an explanation of what is considered "overlinking". - Donald Albury 02:24, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Presbyterian is linked in the infobox. Linking again is unneeded, and the article would be improved by a link to a specific denomination, not the generic term "Presbyterian". John from Idegon (talk) 02:27, 31 December 2019 (UTC)