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Typo on your user page

Hey Hex, can't tell if it's intentional (probably not) but there's a mistake on your user page "I can al least study it" "al" instead of "at". Just wanted to let you know.

P.S.: I've noticed your comment on List of films that most frequently use the word "fuck" and would like to tell you that I'm most likely going to AfD it again soon, see if it works (although I'm doubtful). The Dominator (talk) 06:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

That's the thing, Americans just don't understand, they think that censorship is completely normal and a part of everyday life. Most of them are so Yankocentric. Articles like that shouldn't exist for several reasons though. It's completely original research; the individual pieces of information are true, but it's compiled in a way that invents its own measuring unit and creates its own list. I wanted to create an article about Profanity in film since we have to agree that in the US it's a big deal. The Dominator (talk) 14:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
That's exactly what I would say, Americans are globally short-sighted, not stupid, they just assume that America is the centre of the world and that everybody thinks so as well. By the way, are you Australian or Czech? The Dominator (talk) 15:25, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
But where were you born? I consider myself a Czech even though I've spent most of my life in Canada. How did you do that thing on your userpage where if you click on the "říct" link and it takes you to a Czech version of editing your talk, I really like that! I'm going to work on the profanity in film article now, and I'll wait till I have it done until I AfD the fucking list. The Dominator (talk) 01:14, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Well I've always said that Jupiter is just a Czech colony! Seems like the west owns us, interesting to note that we were the most fucked over country of 1938, 1945 1968 and ironically 1989, and they didn't do anything to help, in fact it was mostly their fault, and we could've been much stronger as a nation today of we remained as Czechoslovakia but the past is the past. Are you planning on doing any major Czech related stuff here? I'd be happy to help with any articles. If you're interested and know a bit about the period, we're expanding Prague Spring to get it to featured, if you feel like helping out. And a question, the programming stuff (like the lang URL's for example, is there a page on wiki or elsewhere that explains this, it's be useful to know The Dominator (talk) 03:44, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Yup, interesting to note how 99% of Wikipedia editing time takes place during a time when you're actually supposed to be doing something else. The Dominator (talk) 04:28, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, just wanted to let you know that I've AfD'd List of films that most frequently use the word "fuck" again, so your arguments are welcome. The Dominator (talk) 15:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately most editors seem to think that it's too early for an AfD, I don't see why, since the last one ended in "No Consensus". The Dominator (talk) 21:19, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Actually there is an official policy against that (WP:CANVASS) and I would hate to be accused of it. Unfortunately people make arguments like "keep, why should it be deleted this time if it wasn't before?". And even though AfD is not a voting process, closing admins generally rate it as such and close based on votes. The Dominator (talk) 21:23, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Sadly articles like this are included on Wikipedia. I'm an inclusionist for concrete things, like people, places, films, but when it comes to retarded concepts like how many times a film uses fuck, it just takes away the seriousness of this encyclopedia. The reason is because things like these are endless, what if we created: List of actors that used the word "cunt" on screen, List of people who have died by impalement, List of people considered stupid, List of female movie directors that have made at least one film that contained the word "shit" or "fuck" a total of more than fifty times by the lead actor or actress it's literally endless, while there are only 6,000,000,000 people on earth. The Dominator (talk) 22:39, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't think that would solve much, the vandals will naturally go to the more popular one, and I'd hate for the US to be the more popular one. The Dominator (talk) 23:37, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Even though that seems to be the way its headed, I don't think Wikipedia is completely doomed. I think the main thing is IP control. IP users do make good contributions but a large amount are vandals and I think Wikipedia is too soft on the sons of bitches. I think that if an IP makes one edit that's obvious vandalism (like blanking a page or adding unrelated obscenities), they should get a strict warning, they do it again, month block. They come back and do it again, indefinite including IP's. Next, I think only users with an account two months old and at least 500 edits should be able to vote in AfD, no IP's at all. Next, even though I'm not an admin and probably never will be one, I think they should be more delicately chosen and should have a more active and larger role in running things. The Dominator (talk) 15:40, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
The vandals are a problem too, not the obvious ones but the <sarcasm> smarter <sarcasm/> vandals, like this guy: Wikipedia:Abuse reports/71.x.x.x that I've had big troubles with, endless amounts of IPs, false edit summaries, stalking and making everything seem like a content dispute rather than vandalism. The Dominator (talk) 01:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
You're right about the most people are idiots thing. Most people care more about what happened last week ago to some slut actress than about history and culture. There are a good amount of smart people on Wikipedia though and the ignorant ones are usually Americans. I've just had a discussion at user talk:Elrith about the use of diacritics on Wikipedia, could you believe that people want to abolish diacritics because they find them annoying or because they don't understand them! Users that called diacritics "squiggles dots and swirls" expect to be taken seriously in a discussion like that. Unfortunately, human idiocy and (mostly American) ignorance are a problem on the internet as it is a globally accessible network and anybody can enter, so any "Wiki-based" encyclopedia would have the same problems, unless we made a site that actually blocked people for stupidity. Or maybe we should have people take an IQ test and score at least 100 before they're allowed to legally access the internet! The Dominator (talk) 01:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
We do sort of follow American culture but that video was hilarious and sad at the same time, quotes like: "What is the United Kingdom" and "triangles have four sides", "what's a mosque" and the great "were we in the Vietnam war?", I don't know if it's a fair representation, but oh my god, there is no excuse for being that stupid, not even being American. I mean, I meet stupid people and they say stupid things (Do you have cars in the Czech Republic?!) and I sort of excuse them saying to myself "it's OK, it's OK", but if somebody asked me what the United Kingdom is or told me that the US won the Vietnam war, I would honest to god have to punch them in the face. The Dominator (talk) 02:32, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Entering old age at 19 :) OK, probably too young to be criticising the world around me, but I have met an amazingly large amount of dumb people that really should know better. The Dominator (talk) 03:32, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I've spent most of my school years in Toronto, Canada and it was a real experience to go to school in Teplice, Czech Republic (just a few years back), it wasn't until then that I fully realized the world is more than what I see, hear and what the adults in Canada tell me. Unfortunately, even if America eventually falls, what world power will take its place, China? Russia? You know, I think it's best leaving the world as it is, in my eyes, Bush invading Iraq is not in many ways different from Hitler invading Poland or even Atilla the Hun invading the Roman Empire, see they all wanted to create their visions of a perfect world in the invaded countries, just like colonialism, the fact that very few people agree with Hitler and some people still trust Bush is irrelevant. Sort of a dumb personal (for some) question, are you a socialist? Cause I honestly find it hard to classify myself, I wouldn't say I'm a communist because I don't believe that everybody of every intelligence and ability level should be equal, but I absolutely resent capitalism. I've tried to have a thorough political debate to really determine, but all I could get is people calling me a commie when I mention socialism. Perhaps its unwise to think of politics at all, human nature is to desire power and wealth, so in every system, there are eventually going to be a few with the power Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?, I guess I'm an anarchist by those standards. The Dominator (talk) 03:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Yup, Hitler was a brilliant leader (disregarding the persecution of the Jews) until 1938 where he just took it too far, it was a big step to just declare that the Sudetenland belongs to Germany, unfortunately Chamberlain and Daladier both had a big part in how it played out and the Münich Conference was just an empty agreement, obviously the French and the British didn't care what Hitler got as long as it gave them a few more months. Hitler obviously lost his patience when war broke out and just wanted everything too fast, it was rather poorly planned out. I guess a potential all-out capitalism would be better than an all-out communism, but I still think that humans can do better than both. Have you ever tried this test? I know it's dumb, but still fun to do. I got Economic Left/Right: -5.12, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.18, try it, takes ten minutes at the most. I'm gonna get to bed soon, you guys have what, noon? It's almost midnight here. The Dominator (talk) 05:14, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Wow, 17 hours apart, I keep forgetting that I'm farther west than I used to be. I moved a few months ago from Waterloo, Ontario to the almost "redneck" town of Airdrie, Alberta. Well, good night to me, and you... have a nice supper I guess! The Dominator (talk) 06:03, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
To follow up on that, pretty much the truth, there's 30,000 people in this town, there's some 8 churches but no hospital. But seriously, I'm going to sleep, see ya. The Dominator (talk) 06:20, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Nevíš kde si můžu stáhnout Českou podporu na klávesnici? The Dominator (talk) 19:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

re:New message

In the spirit of this, I refuse to remove it. Thanks. Lugnuts (talk) 09:45, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

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Your behaviour with an unpleasant article

Your edits on Talk:List of films that most frequently use the word "fuck" caught my attention. The ones made several weeks ago would ordinarily be water under the bridge, but you appear to have been active on the subject up to the last few days. These comments about the article seem bellicose, more likely to aggravate people than reach conclusions, and if necessary to criticize then excessive:

  • "...immaturely extensive when compared to actual articles..."
  • "...crap like this..."
  • "...the effort wasted here..."
  • "Ridiculous."
  • "But no, we have to waste space..."
  • "...a waste of time..."

While these are outright insults:

  • "I can see some 12 year old had a field day."
  • "...they wet themselves and start an article with graphs on it."

Wikipedia is a community as well as an encyclopedia, and the latter is vitally dependant on the former. How we treat others does matter. In short: knock it off, please. --Kizor 03:05, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Just a head's up that you got me thinkin' about the original debate, and I decided to float another vote. Matthead may have been wrong, but he wasn't totally off-base. The way that article's named is just crazy for Wikipedia/en. You're gonna hate my conclusions, though . . . CzechOut | 18:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC)