User talk:Jluscre

Domain

OK thanks for the note. Even then, why would the district go to the trouble of setting up an internet name like that and then go to great lengths to not list it on Wikipedia? Like I said in a previous note, when I open the Roosevelt page from the main district page, through no effort of my own, my web browser says "http://www.kentschools.net/rhs/" so that's what I'll use, but the other address works as well. I would think the easier to remember domain name would be preferred, and since both addresses lead to the same page, why the big deal to change it to the "kent.k12.oh.us?" From an editor's standpoint, it looks better to have the "kentschools.net/rhs" showing rather than the "kent.k12.oh.us" one, plus it's easier to remember like you said. If the district is going to use www.kentschools.net in its own publications, why not here as well? Oh well...of all the things to get upset and have an edit war over, this isn't one of them. Do understand, however, Kent City Schools has no more say over the edits to Wikipedia articles (even ones about Kent City Schools) than any other editor. --JonRidinger (talk) 17:27, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I've never seen a case like this with two "competing" domains, but since the district actively advertises and promotes its website as "www.kentschools.net" it should be used here. If the district would not renew the domain name, then we would update the links here as needed. But since you stated they did it for people to remember it easier, I don't see why we wouldn't use it here, especially when the district's own website also uses the links interchangeably (for example, the hyperlinks at the bottom of the Roosevelt page use the kentschools.net address for both the high school and district pages when you click on them). Also, Wikipedia guidelines ask to avoid using titles in articles, hence the removal of Dr. in front of Joe Giancola's name. See WP:CREDENTIAL --JonRidinger (talk) 17:43, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

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Of course I understood the point of your initial reply, however, you also changed all the web addresses on the related Wikipedia articles and your reply had a "final say" tone to it, which is what I took issue with. I fully understand the whole "official" vs. "non-official" name according to district business and who legally owns what. The "competing" phrase was more in reference to the difference of opinion on what web address should be used in the associated Wikipedia articles, not that they are two separate websites. I feel we should use the name easier to remember and to say (which is why the district got it in the first place), especially since the district already uses it on their own website with internal links and more importantly, it is the promoted name of the site in large white lettering on the printed district calendar distributed to residents. In other words, it's a real and legitimate address. It's not like I'm promoting some false, misleading information by insisting the easier to read and remember domain name be used as the listed web address. Why go to the trouble of setting it up if you don't really want it used? I was fairly surprised this even became an issue since the link already goes to the correct site and has stood as such on the article page for years now. I am looking at this purely as an editor and what makes it easier for people to read. In many of the school pages I have edited, the web address is so long and difficult to read, I simply override it so a link with the school's name shows up. In this instance, the kentschools.net/rhs/ name is short enough that the actual website address can be used and it is still easy enough to read. --JonRidinger (talk) 21:53, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

And P.S. if doing things the way I feel is best based on years of editing and learning Wikipedia guidelines and policies is "however my ego dictates" what is what you are doing?