User talk:Jimbo Wales/EditsArchive 1

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I dont understand

It says anyone can edit it, and he will read it but as soon as I leave a comment it goes away

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I just wanted to say that I am a wiki(anything) addict.

Aloha Jimmy "Jimbo"...my name is Paul Klink, Chairman Emeritus and former ad-man and the only project/career that could take me out of this very comfortable retirement would be to compell the world to your corner...especially if it takes them away from G**gle, love your quote in April's Fast Company about them, I have straight proof of their shady/dishonest ways...and would jump through what ever hoops you set to join your team...my wealth is built on compelling targeted people to specific measureable actions...let's make it utilizing your tools.

Live Aloha,

Paul Paul@Hawaiian.com

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The Greatest Thing Thus Far in the History of Knowledge and Humankind

Thank you Jimbo. You planted a good seed. When I was seven years old I stayed up hours past my bedtime each night reading the World Book Encyclopedia... a few months ago I picked up an old worn copy to revisit, but the knowledge contained therein was so impoverished and scanty compared to what I have come to be familiar with here on Wikipedia...

Thank you, Wikipedia, for being so unfathomably huge, for continuing to grow at an exponential rate, for constantly nurturing my ADHD, for preventing me from wasting all that time each night with such a silly thing as sleep, for letting me add links and make connections through simply using a few brackets, and for being there at the right time with the right technology and a good idea and a trusting attitude. Cajolingwilhelm 02:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

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Jim, you're a freakin' God! Wikipedia is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Thanks for creating it! I'm doing a research paper right now, and every ten minutes I go to wikipedia to get some background info on whatever subject I need to look up. Thanks for creating Wikipedia! Tom

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Jimmy, you gave an interview via Instant Messenger? Whats your handle? Andrew

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Okay Jimbo, you have to come clean with us Alabamians! You went to Auburn and Alabama, are you Crimson and White or Orange and Blue?

-NICK

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Jimbo,

Do you ever shave? Warren from Vancouver

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Jimmy Wales - I have just watched your interview with on cnn.com with Kyra Phillips and John Seigenthaler (Click on ‘Concerns raised about bogus info on Wikipedia'). In this interview, in response to a question from Kyra Phillips about the accuracy of information on Wikipedia, you respond by saying that “people can write whatever they like on the Internet on message boards, mailing lists, etc” (paraphrased by me). In essence, you compare Wikipedia to message boards and mailings lists. Now, take a look at the top of the page wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Main_Page and read the words 'Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit'. Notice the word 'encyclopedia'. How can you claim that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and at the same time compare it with message boards? Isn't this hypocritical?

Sunny

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Jimbo Wales page should have some personal biography information. You know, like what he does for a living, where he went to school, etc.

Comment: this information is provided at the article Jimmy Wales. Jake the Editor Man _(talk) 18:58, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

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Page Protection Request Posted here because it was DELETED from the Page Protection page. You won't even listen to my case, will you?

Would you PLEASE either protect or remove your entry on Ashida Kim so that internet trolls cannot keep going there to post the names of my friends so they can be attacked like abortion clinic doctors, several of whom were KILLED after their names were posted on the internet. I have asked nicely as many times as I can of as many administraptrs as I can contact, but no one ever does anything except ignore me and delete my posts because you love to use my fame to draw people to your silly site. How would you like it if I posted your address so punks could come take a poke at you? Isn't that why YOU hide behind all this proceure that makes it impossible to contact anyone and impossible to get any reply from so called administrators like yourself?

Ashida Kim

Hi Ashida, this is Tyciol, I sent you some PMs on Ezboards once. I think I'll read this article and see what people say, I wonder if it's similar to the Bullshido accusations? Ninjas rule, peace out. -Tyciol

Ashida, the article as it stands now seems fair. I have looked through the history of your page and while there has been some vandalism, it's not been enough to warrant a page protection. Vandalism has been reverted five times in the past two months. You can deal with that level of vandalism yourself. It's unfortunate that someone would want to vandalize your page -- or any page for that matter -- but the amount of vandalism currently occurring is not enough to justify protecting the page, which is an extreme measure taken only to prevent very frequent and extensively disruptive vandalism or edit warring. · Katefan0(scribble) 21:51, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

No Help At All Kate, what you are telling me is that I must now come here and monitor this entry every day to see if it is being vandalized. And if it is I must go through this same silly procedure to get it back to what it is now. A tremendous waste of time which serves the purpose of the trolls perfectly. You say I can deal with the vandalism myself? Not so. I am not an administrator. I had an account with you last time this happened, but you closed it down. To me you are just passing the buck and ducking the issue AGAIN! When you let these trolls publish the names of my friends, their lives are placed in danger. In my first post on this issue I quoted you a line where they bragged about videotaping some of my friends at their homes. That is STALKING! I don't know why you don't think that rises to the level of warranting you to click one icon and save a human life instead of clinging to some ridiculous procedure where a page must be vandalized a thousand times in a single week before you will do anything. Next, I can't for the life of me understand why you won't discuss this privately instead of making me repeat it all in public a hundred times. More silly procedure. Your rationale for not protecting this page, and the page itself with the names on it, have all been shown to the local authorities who assure me that if any of my friends have to set the dogs on any of the punks who creep up on them, that you can be held criminally liable for publishing the addresses. Seems to me any sane person would want to protect themselves from such an embarassment, and possible even prevent it with a single click of the mouse. Rather than continue to act like a lame lawyer who thinks the splitting hairs means anything to criminals. I deeply resent having to come here and embarrass you again and again. That alone should show you the wisdom of just doing the right thing. There can be only one reason why you refuse to make this simple accomodation- BECAUSE USING MY NAME BRINGS PEOPLE TO YOUR SITE, even if it puts me and my friends in jeopardy. That's is pretty sad, Kate. There is no reason that anyone else would keep up a webpage that the subject of has repeated asked be taken down. And, as I have shown with good reason. If one of my friends gets killed in his sleep by some pumped-up, steroid-raging UFC wannabee, worse yet, if one of my friends has to kill one of these punks, I hope you can live with yourself.

Ashida Kim

Headline text

Jimbo,

After visiting NECC this past week (6/27/05) and spent some time with Will Richardson, Tim Lauer and Ann Davis in a small conference, I rebut the below remarks by saying that Wikipedia or a read.write web is just what the education world needs. With excellent guidance and a caring teachers, students can join in on the conversation of knowledge. Thank you for your insight. Get involved with education in the United States - our kids need you.

Argument from an Attorney

Hi Jimmy:

I think that this Wikipedia experiment is extremely dangerous. In a world of intentional disinformation and misinformation, where special groups are attempting to sanitize factual events of a very evil past, there is an inherent danger in giving them a website called an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia information is usually well-researched by bona fide scholars. Young children and adults of the world need to know the truth about the real facts of history. Wikipedia makes it too easy for people to edit these truths and change history that should never morally or legally be changed. The abuses on the Internet system are already bad enough. Your giving twisted people an opportunity to further abuse factual information and calling it an 'encyclopedia' may eventually become the ultimate most dangerous forum of abuse. I reference children because they are the most vulnerable. When they are in school they are trained to look for information in encyclopedias. Imagine what happens if they go to a site titled 'Wikipedia' or 'free encyclopedia' and search for a topic, only to find something inappropriate. Where is the control of information? There is none. Maybe the distorted information is not something sexual or violent. It may, however, be intentionally distorted to serve some twisted person. It could save that the Queen of England or George Bush, Jr., both had adulterous affairs, or that Martin Luther King, Jr. murdered five people; or that China attacked Japan (and not the other way around), or that Jews were pedophiles, etc. The information might even put your social security number and private information (credit card and bank passwords) inside the text of the 'encyclopedia' information. People can take pictures of your wife or girlfriend, change the body and face and put it into a sexually compromising position. And you know the damage misinformation can cause to yourself and the lives, and important histories of the world. Do you see what I am getting at? You should not and must not create a site that uses the title or makes any reference to encyclopedia. It is dangerously misleading, especially if the information has been tainted.

Encyclopedia's are wellsprings of knowledge, however, you created a site that allows people to poison the wellspring; a wellspring accessible to all children who desperately need to know the truth about history and other forms of knowledge. You have the power of free speech, but please don't become an abuser or terrorist of that privilege just for the sake of a list of sellable names. Do not get me wrong, I was excited when I first Wikipedia, but when I realized some factual discrepancies, and checked to find out that scholars did not prepare the information I ran from the site screaming like a banshee. The atom bomb (and the was also a great idea, that went terribly wrong, and has left us at the brink of war ever since.

As an attorney, after weighing the pros and cons of this site, I will tell you, the presumption that Wikipedia is a good idea, is indeed, rebuttable. Don't become Baron von Frankenstein, Wikipedia (Frankestein) is better as a personal website, without any reference to encyclopedia. Not only is its information not free from the intentional distortment of real facts by any nut with fingers, but the name encyclopedia is misleading in facts, as it connotes well-researched information (assumed to be gathered by scholars), but the fact of the matter, it is not.

Personally, I am afraid of its propensity to be compromised and misleading, possibly damaging my research. Therefore, I will not use it again.

I think that Congress should step in and regulate any website that uses the word 'encyclopedia' (and I will draft a letter to my Congressman and Senator to this effect), because it does not protect the knowledge base of student children and the potential for misinformation corrupting our children's mind. Teachers and educators should also vehemently oppose this site because of its potential danger to the young minds of classrooms around the world.

If you want to have such a site, then you should only use scholars with verifiable credentials, their photo, place of work (i.e. academic institution). All others should be excluded unless they meet 'professional' criteria for entry into a site titled 'encyclopedia.' Maybe you should remove refernces to encyclopedia and call it Idea---something or other. Your site has no controls to prevent 'bizarre' usage, and it uses the misleading term 'encyclopedia' inviting in unwitting vulnerable students---these are the problems. You fix these problems and maybe you should be in business and allowed to continue. You decide. Fill your pockets with 30 pieces of silver or destroy the future minds of the world.

Comment: If you object to Wikipedia, don't use it - it's not harming you. There is a blatant disclaimer. Jimmy is hardly going to suddenly rid of all of the marvellous input that many people have provided. To reiterate my statement, if you object to Wikipedia, don't use it. Jake the Editor Man _(talk) 19:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

From a rebutting Pro Se

I read the above and you held my attention until I got to the bit where you said you are an attorney. So now I know you are a trained professional liar, and anything you say may or may not be true, and may or may not be your own thoughts, that is if there is an uncompromised "you". You do not reveal whom you are representing, nor what truth you are withholding, nor who you are. It is a fact that attorneys have no meaningful identity absent a client. I've yet to meet a lawyer who will work on or spend time on anything for which there is no personal gain. I guess that if any of the above bad things you forecast will happen, you think you will have positioned yourself to make a class-action case, and make a lot of money, and find an identity. You should be ignored by all sensible, wholesome, decent, well-meaning, non-lawyer, people, who, some say, are rapidly becoming a minority in the Western world. Your final sentence is the product of a trained sick mind. This is all In My Humble Opinion. Of course. Please quietly go to hell without any fuss, you'll get there in your own time, I'm sure. Yours very truly, etc.

If I Might Add To Your Rebuttal

The letter from the “attorney” is atrocious because of its simplicity and egregious mistakes. After reading his claim of being an attorney I thought "He sounds like an idiot". An attorney would be more polished.

Look at the following two excerpts:
"The atom bomb (and the was also a great idea, that went terribly wrong, and has left us at the brink of war ever since."
"…terrorist of that privilege"
These are evidence of careless, lowbrow thinking. The first is an incomplete sentence and an unclosed parenthesis. Then, inaccurately using the word terrorist is reserved for the easily influenced. I doubt many lawyers use that word so incorrectly. The letter is from someone who fears his words lack credibility without a faux title.

In closing, I believe the correct last sentence would have been “Fill your pockets with 30 pieces of silver or save the future minds of the world.” So no, that wasn't the product of a trained sick mind. It was the product of an untrained lackadaisical one. Don't pretend to be something you're not. And if you are, for goodness sakes, get a different job! --Docjay8406 17:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

A different type of rebuttal

As a teacher, I would argue that teachers whose students haven't learned the meaning of "encyclopedia" or the importance of critical thinking are not doing their job — nor are they doing their students any favors. While all encyclopedias strive to be authoritative and comprehensive, not all succeed, and an essential part of every student's education — more so than ever in the age of the Internet and its ready access to a plethora of opinions and allegations — is to distinguish quality from its opposite, to learn to triangulate research sources, and to recognize bias, logical fallacies, and propaganda techniques.

Should the original author succeed in getting the legislation debated here in the U.S. system, I'd gladly stand up and say this all again — as I do in the classroom, to students of all ages. Lawikitejana 17:46, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Further comments

• hi, Jimbo.. nice job. Really appreciate your ideas of creating this website where ideas of people throughout the world get together. Really help get some info for things that I need to prepare. Thanks a lot. From: Jure, KL, Malaysia.

• Wikipedia is a really great idea. It is worth improving. One isue I think needed is to disable removal of NPOV templates and Factual Accuracy templates by others than the user adding them. Otherwise they no not make much difference at articles manipulated on purpose. An example is the article on Jesus where NPOV templates (as well as any other comment trying to fix the biases) is reverted by one (or several?) people. You may have to change the implementation to achieve this. A second idea could consist in replacing very controversial articles, like the one on Jesus, with blocked NPOV articles consisting only of links to articles with declared POV, like the one I attempted at Jesus NPOV. Thanks for any feed-back. User:I834

• Hi - I'm a Wikipedia reader (and very occasional and limited writer) from Australia. I only discovered this site a few months ago, but in that time I've become convinced that I'm seeing a historic development in the collection and distribution of human knowledge. This site has the potential to change the world. Well done! Charlie

• Just to say a big thanks for the presentation this afternoon in London, 01/12/2004. Thought I'd give this editing thing a go and wow... it all works amazingly! (Sorry if this is in the wrong page - any incompetence is mine not my employer's.)

• Tried to make the page a little more pleasing to the eye, although it is sadly not quite as beautiful as Angela's. Hope you like it. dpen2000 12:19, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• Hats off to you for making wikipedia. Just exercising the right to edit. 195.229.241.169 12:00, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• Huntsville! Cool! I went to Jax State and a bunch of my classmates went to work up in Huntsville, several at Intergraph. After graduation I went to work for Harris Data Services Corp in Montgomery. I'm in VA now. Ppcx 01:59, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Viva HuntsVegas. Sowelilitokiemu 01:41, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• I just reverted to someones simple version, hopefully I'll try and not make your userpage as good as mine... :-) [[User:Squash|Squash (Talk)]] 01:07, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)

• The one with the fancy buttons was better. Andre (talk) 19:52, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)

• The one that has fancy buttons but shows with Times New Romans like fonts on this Fedora Core system... eh?... I think that a vertically navigation bar is more effective though. [[User:Squash|Squash (Talk)]] 20:34, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
  • I believe it was supposed to, Squash. Andre (talk) 22:47, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)
    • I see... [[User:Squash|Squash (Talk)]] 09:12, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)

• Moved image into table... surprised it still looks good. The image pushing down the table... very bad. dpen2000 01:33, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
• The page doesn't look amazing now... It's still better than what it was before Jimbo issued the challenge dpen2000 22:07, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• Maybe it'll look nicer now that I've moved the edit comments to their own page! :) Ashibaka tlk 19:41, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
• Just changed your text Ashibaka to remove connotation(at least in my mind) that changes must be discussed here before made.

• Just thought I'd say thanks for very much for Wiki-everything. You're very hard to find as the creator, but I suppose praise should be given to your modesty in relation to the fact that you haven't plastered your username over every page lol. Keep up the good work! :-) Thanx. Craigy144 01:48, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• What happened to the CSS-enhanced page? Adraeus 03:24, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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Wikipedia on Disc?

There is a Wikipedia CD. Jake the Editor Man _(talk) 19:05, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

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• Hi Jimbo! I would like to suggest that Wikipedia should recruit paid proffessionals to select the best of the articles and put them into a disc for sale, like Britannica and Grolier. I hope that people can keep their own personal copies of wikipedia in this way. Is it good? Chan Han Xiang
  • Would be difficult to sell profitably, given that they are copylefted, and everybody can legally copy it instead of buying it! :) User:I834
    • Dunno. I mean, sure, it'd be easy to copy, but if you market it right... I mean, say you just stamp out a couple thousand CDs (or however you produce 'em), put 'em in simple paper cases, and sell 'em for five bucks a pop. User:NorphTehDwarf

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• HAPPY NEW YEAR! Greetins from Tallinn, Estonia. Wikipedia is great project!

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• Hi Jimbo, newbie here.

Just wondering is Wikipedia so free that if its stated purpose of being called an encyclopedia changed (democratically) would you step in to fix it? Potroast 04:07, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC) btw- great idea

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Hey Jimbo, I love this community! I can find topics on anything and the mass editing process gives me confidence in their validity. One thing - I want to set up a user page and can't figure out how. I'm afraid if I use the main site, I'll just be creating an encyclopedia page (with my name). Please help. --orthoseeker 18:36, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Top of page links in Internet Explorer

For me, using Internet Explorer, the links at the top of the page are not rendering correctly when they are first displayed. After selecting them (andthen removing that selection) they have a black bacground and are readable, but beforehand they are white text on a white background.

Before I added a couple of </div> end tags, the links were overwritten by the following lines of text.

Mark Hurd 00:24, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Comments

Great work Jimmy.
Communities like Wiki, must be based on faith.
Keep the world open

My First Post ... and loving it.

-Dhananjay Rokde http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:dhanu1000

A comment on the user page - the color (a variation of orange) is yuck. Otherwise OK Dungodung 21:59, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Wow Jimbo nice page so you trust us huh please note that these comments are biasis I use ur website to cheat on exams

Your page is nice. However, there is one thing: replace that picture of you frowning with one of you smiling! :-)

Hi, i'm only new to this site but am loving it already. Just a brilliant concept that will only grow as more people join the community. Keep up the good work.CEP78 05:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Why your dream won't come true

Hi Jimbo, I thank you for your trust. I thought about what I could add to your page since you invited changes that would make you smile, but I don't think it's possible for any sensible individual to edit a page written in the first person by someone else. So any change made to your page will be made by a careless, tactless or non-well-meaning person. Just a thought.

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I understand the concern of the poster above (who did not sign), but I did make a minor edit on your page to try and improve it, as you had generously invited ut; There was a minor "edit war" on which photo of your to use; I'm an "inclusionist," and, so long as it's not harmful or disrespectful (or messy), I'm ok with it. So, I added back the two photos that others had recently put and left the one that the most recent editor placed, as he had asked. I also experimented with "left, right, center" placement variety and color and font a little. Well, I'm not an Einstein, but I used a little initiative. As an amateur webmaster, I figured I'd use my meager talents to beautify the environment a tad. Take care,--GordonWattsDotCom 1 July 2005 02:28 (UTC)

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* I wonder if you could please tell some of your administrators to get a life. I keep editing an entry with material that yes, I have borrowed from another site, but the owner of the site has given me FULL permission to do so (in fact to use it in any way I like), in fact they are honored that I wish to do so!! I have also made them aware of the GFDL and all the ramifications of it. Can people please check the entry discussion before just riding in roughshod and deleting the entry? Please, could they? Thanks!! Jcwinfer 20/6/05

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Wikipedia Rap

Jimbo,

I think that Wikipedia ought to have its own song. I wrote a "Wikipedia Rap" a while back, but nobody seemed to like it. I suggest that we have a contest to see who can write the best song for Wikipedia.

Sincerely, NapSpit2

OH MY GOSH that's a great idea. I second this notion. 69.157.123.224 01:28, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

MediaWiki interface update

Jimbo; is there any chance of making the Wiki world easier on the eyes? The work you have done to make Wiki is stellar, and I think a slicker interface would be great. I have lots of ideas on expanding the interface. If you have some time, visit my site at: http://bluefugu.biz.tm or e-mail me at: >>email removed<<.

Hi there. I removed the email address from the post - plonking it here will make it very accessible to spam harvesters. Meanwhile, to your original request...if you really have a good idea for a different skin, please do knock one up and announce it on our mailing list. If it's good enough, it will be included in the core MediaWiki code, at which point our users will be able to select it as their preferred skin.

Information such as that on m:MediaWiki look and feel might be useful. I believe there's also a m:Gallery of user styles which could be useful. Cheers, Rob Church ^Talk 20:29, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Dutch vs dutch-speaking

I would like to inform you that the ppl in the Netherlands aren't the only ones who speak dutch. Everytime nl.wikipedia is mentioned in the media only Holland is referenced. Just recently said "We in the English Wikipedia are very proud of what the Dutch Wikipedia has accomplished. Congratulations on your growth and acceptance in the Netherlands." We Flemish Belgian people DO exist and its not motivating that we are overlooked everytime.

If you think about it, only a select few languages are referred to without association with their countries. Even respectably large ones like French and German are generally associated only with the counties in their names, though there are populations speaking them world-wide. --Scotto 12:12, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Colors

I am modifying the colors without touching the content, hopefully will look better. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 14:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I am thinking of a darker theme. Does anyone object? The Coldwood 22:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

We should make it shinier!

Added a Comment under a title

I have added a comment to your user page (hope you don't mind) . I think it would be nice if people could leave comments on your main user page ( as long as there not nasty ) , just so people can show there gratitude :) . Paladin

Userboxes

I added the following three userboxes to Jimbo's page:

This user is the benevolent dictator of Wikipedia.

This user strives to maintain a policy of neutrality on controversial issues.

This user tries to do the right thing. If they make a mistake, please let them know.

I thought they were appropriate, but User:SCZenz reverted, saying "I think adding userboxes could make an inaccurate (and presumably unintended) implication about Jimbo's position on them". I see that since then, User:Sceptre has added another userbox. So my question is, do people feel userboxes would be inappropriate? The user-en and user-fr1 boxes have been around a long time with no complaints. So far as I know, there is no controversy on the user-NPOV and user-oops boxes, any more than there is on the babel boxes. Anyone else have an opinion? – Quadell ^{(talk) (bounties)} 00:01, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Since no one objects, I'm readding them. If you think they're inappropriate, please, let's discuss it here. Thanks, – Quadell ^{(talk) (bounties)} 15:25, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Whats wrong with the NPOV one? I am removing that one. :P --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 20:11, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Um, I have to echo your question here: Whats wrong with the NPOV one? – Quadell ^{(talk) (bounties)} 22:28, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

On the subject of userboxes, I've added: {{User Tawkerbot2}}
Should make Jimbo smile :) ZoFreX 07:23, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Round Corners

Does Jimbo use Firefox or Mozilla? I ask because since they support rounded corners, which I think look quite nice, without causing the page to display badly on other browsers. So for example,

could become

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using "-moz-border-radius:15px" in the style part of the table. What do others think? smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 13:48, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

That looks like a great idea. Quadell 15:27, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'll try it, although I bet someone will revert it... smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 15:52, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

As the creator of the general design (well sorta) I like it :), However the firstone looks like a bubble and is a bit odd, not that I hate it... its just od... :/ --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 20:12, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

What do you think of the rounded corners I made on the images? _→AzaToth 18:06, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

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Hmm... I prefer the square corners, to be honest. They just look neater and the rounded ones look a little out of place, seeing as everything else is square. Also, the rounded corners are a little pixelated and messy. Maybe if the corners weren't so drastically rounded it'd be quite good.

TheRotArm 16:38, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I think we should leave the square corners, as they are standards-compliant. The Coldwood 22:34, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia getting used by Chinese chauvinist propagandists

Surf around the topics on Tibet, (China-occupied, Inner-) Mongolia and so called "Xinjiang" or Sinkiang, or simply just the topics on "ethnic minorities of China". Make sure to consult experts with consciounce and nuetrality. Write me back if you want to hear more at dugarjab at yahoo dot kom.

(Sorry I forgot to sign. I'm just learning to use this stuff. Not even sure if it'll show. Let's see...) Here: dugar 04:19, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Donate

Should we add {{User:Jimbo_Wales/Donate}} to the page?

It looks like this:

Please donate. If you find this encyclopedia or its sister projects useful, please consider making a donation. Donations are used primarily for purchasing server equipment.

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This template is better than booring text. --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 22:01, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

You're Right

I just wanted to say, you're right, User:Angela's page does look good. Torax2 23:00, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

"You may edit this page" perfect page section

There's a sentence that reads: "Since this page is so simple and ugly, my ultimate dream is that some person who thinks it is fun will come along and make it look as perfect as User:Angela's user page." For a long while that actually made sense, as Angela really did have a clean elegant even beautiful page. However, at the beginning of this month, Angela resigned, removed most of the page structure, and now the most prominent feature of her page is that resignation statement. I doubt Jimbo wants to say that he wants his page to have a big resignation statement on it as well.

I propose to change that sentence to refer to a more appropriate page. I'm not the most experienced user, but so far in my browsing here, User:Phaedriel has been widely acknowledged to have the best, or at least one of the best, user page designs (among other kind words that can be found on her talk page - she also seems to be widely acknowledged as one of the nicest users here). Many users have even asked her to redo their pages to match.

As per that "you may edit this page" heading, and WP:BOLD, I'm going to change that reference from Angela to Phaedriel. Hopefully the community -- and Jimbo -- will find that appropriate. If not, an equally bold but more experienced person may find an even better page design for Jimbo's user page to aspire to, or just change that to "... and make it look perfect.", and exclude a user page reference altogether. But I do think that big resignation statement makes Angela's page no longer the perfect candidate for our founder's to hope to emulate. AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 13:23, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Whoa, it's one thing to change a page, in how it looks, it's another to change what someone has said. My own suggestion would be to change the link from Angela's userpage to Angela's userpage at the time Jimbo said it. Regarding userpages, there are huge differences in what people like. Angela's former userpage and Phaedriel's current user page differ like day and night, and I don't think it's safe to say that Jimbo's preferences in this area have shifted from preferring one page in the past, and another now, just because these days there are a lot of people that like Phaedriel's userpage :) --JoanneB 13:33, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

That could work too. I think the connotation that this is an active page of an active editor is preferrable, rather than a version frozen in time, of an editor that later resigned... but it's certainly better than Angela's current. If you find Angela's right version and change it to that, I won't argue against it. AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 13:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Until you do, I'll just leave it at "... perfect." then. AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 13:41, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

HELP! from WTRiker

Help me please, I need help organizing my "homepage". I also asked someone else to help, but yourself being The Grand Master Overlord of the Wiki, His Royal Highness, Prime Minister and President of the United States of Wiki Sir Lord Fleet Admiral and General James "Jimbo" Wales, Esq. DDS, MD you could help me organize my "homepage" (also anyone who reads this, please help too). Thank you for your time. Love Wikipedia, Grand Overlord, sir.--WTRiker 05:13, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikia

Just wondering if you thought that Wikia could be undermining Wikipedia to an extent - I've fund a couple of examples where pages have been taken off of Wikipedia in order to make the Wikia content (often a carbon copy of the Wikipedia page) more 'exclusive'. This can be confusing as some topics are effectively being split into two. guest9999

Hi Jimbo. Please can you give me advise, and tell me what I should do to make the wiki great. Eg, please can you assign mmen an old wikipedian who can teach me how to be a good wikipedian? Thanks, Christine118500 10:55, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikiepedia Use Of Artistic Images

Dear Mr Wales,

I hope this is permitted to contact you on this page. I am an artist and was recently speaking to one of your editors, who suggested I release some of my images for use on the site under your special release agreement - GFL (General Free Licence?). I was interested in this and he explained that non-commercial and wikiepedia only licences are not acceptable, because the site is copied by other sites who may be commercial. I did not find the release of low resolution images to be problematic therefore. However, he said there also had to be permission for alteration by anybody else who wanted to alter an image under this permission. As I understand it, a portrait I release under your licence can then, for example, have a moustache drawn on it by someone else and I would have no redress to stop this happening once the image had been released under the licence. I cannot see what encyclopedic purpose is served by the requirement for such a permission. In fact quite the opposite: it does not spread knowledge of an artist's work, as obviously artists spend a huge amount of time to create exactly the image they wish, and if others are to appreciate their work and understand it, then they need to see the work as the artist wishes it to be seen, not a modification which someone else has done. I therefore declined the invitation to upload any of my work. This requirement will be offputting to most artists and serves no valid need. I would like to support your enterprising project of creating free knowledge. My contribution is a suggestion that this particular clause is withdrawn. I note that some of my work is on your site already, presumably under a copyright fair use claim. I have no objection to this, because I retain moral rights that the work may not be altered.

Yours, an artist

user page

just thought id say! I really like it! Congratulations ! Philbuck222 01:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

admin

do u think u could mayb make me an admin jimbo i wnt to be one but my usage of wikipedia doesn't show it but if u make me an admin i'll clean up wikipedia like never b4 thanx dude Mesact5.5 00:28, 13 November 2007 (UTC)