User talk:Jec

Andrzej Krzysztof Wróblewski

Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced biography of a living person: Andrzej Krzysztof Wróblewski. Our verifiability policy requires that all content be cited to a reliable source. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --LaraBot (talk) 00:10, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Partly done, looking for more references.Jec (talk) 00:45, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

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Replied on User_talk:Remi_Mathis#Obnoxious_ads Jec (talk) 19:09, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Tixati

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A tag has been placed on Tixati requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Deletion duly contested. Jec (talk) 03:44, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

The usual criterion for inclusion in Wikipedia is explained here. Very basically, we only summarise information that's already published in reliable sources that're independent of the subject. We do this to ensure both that our information is verifiable, and that it can be written neutrally. If you have any questions, please ask. Cheers, WilyD 07:58, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm a little confused. I was very careful to only include verifiable information on the Tixati page, and to exclude any information I didn't have independent sources for. What is more, the page was deleted and my arguments against the deletion are no longer accessible -- and I haven't seen any replies to my comments. Please explain why you ignored my contestation, and why exactly you deleted the Tixati page. Jec (talk) 21:29, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

There's a list of speedy deletion (deletions which can be performed without discussion) here. Criterion A7 allows for the deletion of articles about a "real person, individual animal(s), organization, web content or organized event" which "does not indicate why its subject is important or significant". Tixati met that criterion, and someone requested the deletion. Since you response didn't indicate there was any reason to think it was a correctable problem, I didn't see any reason to deny the request. The real crux of what gets kept, and what gets deleted is explained here. Articles should cite sources that're independent of the subject, that're reliable, and that go into some depth to establish the notability of the topic. (And ensure the information is fairly reliable). Tixati only referenced it's own website. WilyD 14:52, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Tixati only referenced it's own website. And of course you could not have asked me for further references -- you needed to delete the page without any discussion? Please reinstate the page, and I'll add references to reliable third-party sources.Jec (talk) 16:25, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

I've placed the article at User:Jec/Tixati. Probably you should read over Wikipedia:Your first article. Once the article is suitable for the mainspace, go ahead and move it there. Any other questions, please ask. WilyD 18:03, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it's likely to survive a deletion discussion (mostly per Lukeno's comments), but I think it's unlikely to be speedily deleted at this point. If you're concerned about the article being kept long term, it may be worth your time to keeping looking for sources. It's also worth noting that people are typically more helpful and cooperative if you're pleasant to them, rather than randomly slinging insults and the like. WilyD 10:28, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Current version

Hello Jec. I've spotted this page in the WP:NPP, and I'm not convinced that this program is notable per WP:NSOFTWARE (let alone WP:GNG). At the moment, I can't see any WP:RS on this program either in the article, or in a Google search: Bittorent.org and Torrent Freak are nowhere near reliable sources, Tech Support Alert isn't a reliable source (although by no means is it a bad source), and Ghacks is a blog, so isn't a reliable source either. As you're currently very active on improving this article, I shan't nominate it for deletion just yet, but I will warn you, I'm watchlisting it, and if in the next couple of days I don't feel you've established notability well enough, I will take the article to WP:AFD (that's not a threat, it's just a statement of fact). Regards, Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 19:12, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, Luke, and thanks for the advance warning.

Bittorrent.org is the official repository for BitTorrent-related specifications. Torrentfreak is probably the main BitTorrent-related publication for the general public -- their journalistic standards are impeccable, and as far as I'm aware, they've never been caught publishing a wrong information. No opinion about Support Alert. On the other hand, I agree about you wrt. ghacks.

As far as notability of the subject matter -- as mentioned in the article, Tixati is one of the very few independent implementations of BitTorrent that support the more recent extensions to the protocol, and one of the just three independent implementations of BEP-32 (Transmission, Shareaza and Hekate all use code derived from a single source -- so with Vuze and Tixati, that's just three). I believe this alone makes it worthy of a Wikipedia entry, notwithstanding the dearth of third-party references.

I have no POV issues with respect to Tixati -- I have no connections with the company, and everything I know about it comes from the Internet and my own reverse-engineering. There is one bit of original research (marked in the article with a tag) which I've been unable to confirm with third-party sources. Unfortunately, I do not feel I can improve the article any further with my current knowledge, so should my explanations above prove unsatisfactory, we'll need to have this discussion at WP:AFD. Jec (talk) 19:55, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

• I've never stated anything about a WP:COI, so I don't know why you brought that up, but anyway, Torrentfreak is a web blog, and is thus not a reliable source, even if, as blogs go, they're a more reliable one. Also, it's a bit routine anyway. Whilst technically Tixati may be notable, unfortunately that's not really enough for WP:NSOFTWARE - it's definitely part of the way there, but it kind of needs some coverage in reliable sources about this technical aspect and how that makes it notable, which I'm not seeing. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 20:04, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Tixati

A Google search for "best bittorrent client" reveals websites like Gizmos Freeware and Tom's Guide which talk about Tixati, and Lifehacker which mentions Tixati as an alternative to uTorrent, so it looks quite notable. This university website and a few others also mention Tixati as an example of a P2P client, so I think Tixati should be on this wiki. Do you still have the original page? Squc (talk) 12:00, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

No, sorry. You'll need to ask the gentlemen who removed the page for a copy. Jec (talk) 16:57, 29 June 2013 (UTC)