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Piano survival

Hi Jack, thought this article might 'tickle your ivories' so to speak. How lucky. JennyOz (talk) 08:40, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

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Unnecessary?

Incredible

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You'd do better not to ramp up unpleasantness at that page, wouldn't you? Tony (talk) 10:49, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Well, I'd consider it pretty unpleasant to be referred to as "Jock of Ooze", for example. How would you like "Titty 77"? -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 11:14, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

But "ooze" and "titty" have emotional content, and would clearly be committed by intent. My spelling mistake had no emotional content, or malicious intent. But even if it had been a case of titty or ooze, why would you pour fuel on a tense situation by taking sides? Very poor. Tony (talk) 13:21, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

You've explained that you had skimmed the previous post and missed where you were first asked to correct your error. That's fine, but we didn't know that at the time. At the time, it had all the hallmarks of one who was either (a) deliberately misspelling Ravpapa's name or (b) just not caring enough to bother getting it right even after being asked to do so. You must take responsibility for that appearance being created. If you choose to skim responses to your posts, that's your call, but then if you miss certain things, the responses you get from others is down to you. We are not mind readers, and it's hard to assume good faith in these circumstances.

Let's end this now, ok. Best wishes. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 18:56, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Well no, not if you're going to offer petulant comments. Why don't you shut up? Tony (talk) 00:18, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

What was that you were saying about petulance?

You're not welcome on my talk page unless you can be civil, and behave in an adult fashion. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 03:25, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

More insults. Neither are you welcome on my talkpage, thanks very much. Be done. Tony (talk) 09:42, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

PR

Nice to meet you again! I don't know if you watched it but I had I crazy year with two many deaths. I met Boulez and Harnoncourt. Reger's death - 100 years ago - was of course known and duly celebrated, - we sang his largest choral piece, Der 100. Psalm. The article is up for peer review, - in case you want to add suggestions, you're most welcome! I wonder if there's any coverage in English, it's overly German(Swiss right now. It seems a dying art, peer review I mean. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:33, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Gerda. I'm not greatly interested in peer reviewing per se, unless it's an article that's in my sphere of interests. I'll take a look soon. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 19:42, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

No rush, I gave up on bringing it to FA this year, because both November and December are not the right time for so much rejoicing. DYK that Reger has us (chorus, pictured) sing "Jauchzet" hundred or so times before the text goes on? - What's on your musical mind? - We (different group) will sing a world premiere next, by Peter Reulein, here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:22, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

On my mind? Well, inter alia I'm practising William Bolcom's Graceful Ghost Rag, probably for performance next year. That, and Mozart's Rondo in A minor. The notes are simple enough, but bringing out the entire universes of feeling and meaning behind and between the notes are the real challenge. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:30, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

I could not have said it better, about the Mozart 511. Haydn's variations in F minor have a similar quality to me, - played very fittingly (and well) in the memorial concert pointed out here, along with the Actus tragicus and Debussy's cello sonata, and more, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:36, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

1975 Australian constitutional crisis

Hi Jack. I pinged you earlier this month because there was a thread on the above topic on Humanities that I looked forward to reading your thoughts on. But it seems like you were taking a break from Wikipedia at the time (there were a few days when you made no contributions), so I guess you must have missed both my ping and the thread itself. Regards, --Viennese Waltz 09:03, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Herr Waltz. Yes, I was away on a well-deserved and long-overdue holiday. Upon my return to my Real Life (viz. Wikipedia), I seem to have marked all my pings and notices as read, without actually, er, reading any of them. My mind must still have been on a break. Sorry about that.

I guess it's a bit late now to add any comments to that closed thread. Do you agree? Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:47, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Good to see you back, in any event. ---Sluzzelin talk 22:31, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Seconded. --Trovatore (talk) 23:05, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, folks. I've posted my thoughts @ User talk:Paul Benjamin Austin. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 23:10, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply Jack, and for the very detailed response at the OP's talk page, which I greatly enjoyed reading despite knowing nothing of these events. --Viennese Waltz 09:49, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

The Aussie name

What do Aussies call a sliding glass door? In New Zealand it's called a ranchslider. I think that was originally the trademarked name of one manufacturer, but it became a generic name. Akld guy (talk) 10:07, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Hello. Did you overlook my question? Akld guy (talk) 23:04, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi. Afaik, we just call it "a sliding glass door". Never heard of a "ranchslider". Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 23:08, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Akld guy (talk) 23:50, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Ein' feste Burg

Reger wrote at least two works Ein' feste Burg ist unser Gott (also a chorale prelude). The works by Bach and Bruckner go by catalogue number, also most other works by Reger with their often ambiguous titles: why an exception? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:29, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Ok, thanks, Gerda. Feel free to revert my page move. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:31, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Reagan as a statesman

Reliable sources have indeed referred to Reagan a statesman, in pretty much the same sense John Adams has been described as one. Just a quick search in Google Books tells all one needs to know, really.--Nevé –selbert 21:33, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

That's fine. So, include those sources. Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:35, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

I don't see how referring to Reagan as a statesman is controversial enough for us to have to cite it. It's not controversial for Adams, for example.--Nevé –selbert 21:52, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

It's just that not all heads of state get called statesmen. I doubt Richard Nixon has ever been called this, for example. Or Robert Mugabe. If Trump wins (heaven forbid), if anyone ever calls him a statesman there would be World War III. So, it's very person-specific. Some people are widely and universally so regarded: Winston Churchill, Nelson Mandela, Jawaharlal Nehru and so on. Others, not so much. Would Reagan be in most people's list of names that first pop into their heads when the word 'statesman' is mentioned? Not many, I would suggest. So, he's a sort of borderline case, and I think we cannot rely on one editor's opinion but need support from sources. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:24, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Reagan helped win the Cold War. He was as much a statesman as Gorbachev. Nixon was regarded by some as an elder statesman, by the way. Do you think some kind of WP:Request for comment would be helpful here? (As a side note, I utterly concur with your thoughts about Trump winning.)--Nevé –selbert 22:37, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

See, now you're arguing for his status as a statesman. That proves this is about opinion. It must rise above opinion. Just show some reliable sources and the matter is settled. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:40, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Category:Depictions of Ip Man on film

When the article on the eponymous martial artist is spelled "Yip Man", why rename the category with a different spelling? Kailash29792 (talk) 05:58, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Because Ip Man is an acknowledged alternative spelling, and ALL the movies about him call him Ip Man. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 06:08, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

In order to maintain consistency, I think even the parent article should be renamed then. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:51, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Be my guest. :) -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 09:20, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Adam Goodes talk

If you do not accept that the crowd who booed Adam Goodes were actually booing the media's false accusation against themselves, that they were racists, are you implying that the crowd (who accepted other aboriginal players, without booing) were actually racist?

I have denied nothing you said. What I'm saying is that this sort of discussion is inappropriate for a talk page. We deal in material found in reliable sources. We do not deal in the opinions of individual editors. If you want a debate, take it elsewhere. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 03:46, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Bill Hayden ended the 'Cold War'

Actually, it was not Reagan that ended the Cold War - it was Australian Minister for Foreign Affairs, 'Bill' Hayden who made Australia a member of a summit between Reagan and the Russian Premier Chernyenko (through Gromyko) in the early 1980s. These talks led to a Russian trawler agreement in Tasmania, Russian liners entering Sydney Harbour, the arrival of Aeroflot, Belarus Tractors, Skoto Import et al into Australia. Afterwards Thatcher and Bush senior also wanted trade contracts with USSR. US and USSR became each others' best trading partners. USSR economy collapsed because it was too artificial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.129.97.44 (talk) 23:51, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Who are you and why are you telling me these things? -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 03:48, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

My Last Judgment question in WP:RD/H.

I was serious, IMHO.--193.163.223.128 (talk) 20:49, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

"You cannot be serious". Do you seriously think such a date is written down anywhere? -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 20:59, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

The answer, at least for the IP, turn out to be 21:14 UTC, 19 November 2016. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:18, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

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Quviahugvik

Hello JackofOz: From high in the Canadian Arctic I hope you enjoy the holiday season, the Winter or Summer Solstice, Quviahugvik, Eid, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hannukah or even the Saturnalia, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 10:14, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

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@ User:CambridgeBayWeather: How lovely. Thanks a bunch from Down Under, mate. Chill out and stay safe. Yuletide felicitations and Happy Days. :) -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 10:28, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Merry

Season's Greetings, JackofOz!
At this wonderful time of year, I would like to give season’s greetings to all the fellow Wikipedians I have interacted with in the past! May you have a wonderful holiday season! MarnetteD|Talk 17:05, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

User:MarnetteD: Thanks, Marn, and Yo-ho-ho to you too. :) -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 20:16, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry!

From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:52, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, and Christmas cheer to you too. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:54, 24 December 2016 (UTC)