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Women in Red January 2023

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January newsletter

SYMBIOSIS: The lichen task force newsletter — January 2023
A look at what we've accomplished, working together

Happy new year! We head into 2023 with plenty of work to do. We're missing articles on a handful of lichen families, scores of lichen genera and thousands of lichen species. Dozens of important lichenologists are "missing" too. We need to check or update the taxonomy of hundreds of existing taxa articles. Many articles about basic lichen structures and functions are either tiny stubs or badly in need of referencing or updating. There's certainly enough to keep us busy for a good long while! Here's to a productive year ahead.

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Newsletter challenge – last month's champion and a new challenge

Kazamzam met last month's challenge and provided an updated reference for the Cladonia squamosa article – which indicated a significantly larger world range for the species than had been previously listed. Nice job!

This month, we're looking for someone to replace the dead reference in Ramalina fraxinea (defunct since April 2018!) with one (or more) which corroborates the information that the old reference did. The editor who meets this challenge will get public kudos in the next newsletter.

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February lichen task force newsletter

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Decade old page protection on the article Nathan Lewis (chemist)

Greetings. More than a decade ago, you had placed an indefinite page editing protection block on the article Nathan Lewis (chemist) on 26 May 2012 because User:Chaanakya chiraag nataraj (talk | contribs) had some weird professorial fetish at that time by vandalizing the article. Do you think that enough time has passed that this protection can be lifted from this article? If so, would you be able to handle this (or at least tell me how I should communicate this to the correct persons who can make this happen)? Thank you in advance. -- 96.64.134.61 (talk) 18:25, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

That seems reasonable. I've removed the protection, but left a note at WP:BLPN. Josh Milburn (talk) 11:13, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you very much for doing this since I am just beginning to straighten this article out. It is a good thing that you left a note at WP:BLPN since some stupid high school student in Upstate NY has already tried to vandalize this article. (If they are stupid enough to return, I will just nominate that their IP network be blocked for a few days/weeks since their dumb vandalism have already earned them one strike against their single IP and/or their entire school network.) I am currently going through the article's award section, which is going to be a slow slog since I am also found that I need to update information on the various award pages. So thanks again and to your many past contributions to WP. -- 96.64.134.61 (talk) 16:53, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

The redirect TSZ has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 18 § TSZ until a consensus is reached. Veverve (talk) 21:48, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

@Veverve: No objection from me; I've deleted it. Josh Milburn (talk) 08:55, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Hannah Arendt

Hannah Arendt has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. - car chasm (talk) 02:55, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

@Carchasm: Thanks for the note, but I'm afraid I don't have time to look into this. Josh Milburn (talk) 08:55, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

moral philosophers

Hi. What do think about these deletions? Ali Pirhayati (talk) 13:06, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

@Pirhayati: I don't know who was listed in the categories before, so hard to say. I suppose I'd say that there are plenty of ethicists who aren't moral philosophers, but these categories are disputed. I don't think there's any harm lumping moral philosophers in with ethicists -- and I think the phrase "Philosophers of ethics and morality" is bizarre! Josh Milburn (talk) 15:27, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

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Hello again

Hello again. Apologies for this random message. I hope you are doing well. I wanted to reach out to you after I started working on rewriting the Kes (Star Trek), possibly for a FAC and primarily to just improve the article in general. I hope I am not the only editor who cringes when they look back on their old work on here. Anyway, I just thought of you since you helped a great deal with the GAN review, and I wanted to drop in and see how you were doing. I hope you are having a great start to your week! Aoba47 (talk) 22:59, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red March 2023

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So ends the first round of the 2023 WikiCup. Everyone with a positive score moved on to Round 2, with 54 contestants qualifying. The top scorers in Round 1 were:

  • Unlimitedlead with 1205 points, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with two featured articles on historical figures and several featured article candidate reviews.
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Category:Latvian black metal musical groups has been nominated for merging

Category:Latvian black metal musical groups has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Estopedist1 (talk) 13:05, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

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The article Jessica Pierce has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Subject is not notable, no independent sources discuss Pierce or establish her importance.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Sagsbasel (talk) 08:00, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

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Reverts at Jessica Pierce

Why did you revert the edits? I improved the lede. I fixed typos. I got rid of redundant information--I am not sure why you want to tell us who published Pierce's books three times but once is enough.

I separated the dates and places of employment from her philosophy because this is an encyclopedia, not a chronistic biography. Anyone trying to research Pierce for her beliefs should be able to pinpoint what her beliefs are without reading through a rambling paragraph about where she worked, when, what books were published by what company, etc. Sagsbasel (talk) 09:28, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

I disagree that you improved the lead. I thought the lead was fine, but I tried to trim down the lead out of recogition of your concerns. Of course, you just reverted this, and also reverted my addition of a source for a claim you were concerned was unsourced. I did not see any typos that you fixed. Maybe you think that the information is best separated, but I don't. That's why I recerted you, as per the bold, revert, discuss cycle. But rather than discussing this on the article talk page, you reverted me, which looks pretty clearly like edit warring. Josh Milburn (talk) 09:38, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
The lede was nearly as long as the article itself. You were bogging it down with book titles, dates of publication, and publisher information. Is there a reason that this publication information is so important that you need it to appear three times in the article? And why it certainly needs to be in the lede? Sagsbasel (talk) 09:41, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Pierce is notable for her published work. The whole point of a lead section is to provide "a concise overview of the article's topic. It should identify the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points, including any prominent controversies." Maybe the version of the lead I favour included too much information. (I don't think so, but there's room for disagreement about this.) In recognition of that fact, I tried to trim down the lead when you raised concerns. Josh Milburn (talk) 09:49, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
So is Stephen King but his lede isn't just a string of book titles and dates. The current lede does give a concise overview of Pierce. It identifies her as a philosopher, it establishes context, explains why she is notable, and summarizes the most important points. A string of book titles does none of that, you would already have to be familiar with the books to know what context they provide. Dates provide no context here. Nor do her publishers' names. Sagsbasel (talk) 09:54, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
And this is the sort of thing we should be discussing on the article talk page. It's not the sort of thing that justifies you ignoring the bold, revert, discuss cycle to force your favoured version of the lead (and article structure, and...) into the article. Josh Milburn (talk) 09:55, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
I am the bold one. You reverting to a seven year old version is not a bold move, it's a safe move. Take the hint, you suck at writing articles. The only people who thought Pierce was notable were psychologists already familiar with her work. Everyone who wasn't a psychology student thought she was an irrelevant nobody. Sagsbasel (talk) 10:01, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Yes, I know you are the bold one. I was the 'reverting' one. The point of the cycle is that we should boldly update, but then, if reverted, start a conversation. Again, please read WP:BRD. And there's no need for this abuse towards me or towards Pierce. Josh Milburn (talk) 10:04, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
You didn't start a conversation after your revert. Please read WP:BRD again. Sagsbasel (talk) 10:08, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
I don't know what you are asking me to read. You boldly update, I revert. The discuss part: "Discuss your bold edit with the person who reverted you. To follow BRD specifically, instead of one of the many alternatives, you must not restore your bold edit, make a different edit to this part of the page, engage in back-and-forth reverting, or start any of the larger dispute resolution processes. Talk to that one person until the two of you have reached an agreement." There is now a thread on the talk page. I kindly ask you to engage with that thread (which you are doing) and to restore the 'original' version of the article (i.e., the version as of 08:45, 17 March 2023‎) while the conversation is ongoing. Josh Milburn (talk) 10:13, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
I don't have a problem with you restoring it. (I incorrectly thought you'd gone, otherwise I would have checked with you.) But it does seem to me that she doesn't meet the criteria for inclusion. Deb (talk) 14:40, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Sagsbasel, I supported your view, but please don't be rude to other contributors. That's counter-productive. Deb (talk) 14:42, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
@Deb: Sagsbasel has been indefinitely blocked by Courcelles. Out of interest, do you think the article in its current state suggests that she doesn't meet the criteria for inclusion? I accept that, after Sagsbasel removed all the secondary sources from the article, it didn't look particularly impressive. But the current article cites dozens of secondary sources focussed on Pierce's work. These include scholarly reviews, scholarly appraisals about her place in the literature, journalistic pieces, interviews, reviews in mainstream media... I'm not sure what more you could want for an article about an academic philosopher! Josh Milburn (talk) 15:13, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
No, I think it's okay now. I'm a bit surprised that she doesn't hold a senior academic post though. Deb (talk) 15:34, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Ok, that's good to hear. As for senior posts... I think that's just her choice. She's decided she'd rather stay out of teaching/admin, instead sticking to writing. Attractive, of course, but I don't know how many academics could actually support themselves like that... Josh Milburn (talk) 15:40, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red April 2023

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Always precious

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Women in Red May 2023

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May 2023 lichen task force newsletter

The May edition of the lichen task force newsletter is now available. MeegsC (talk) 09:42, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

WikiCup 2023 May newsletter

The second round of the 2023 WikiCup has now finished. Contestants needed to have scored 60 points to advance into round 3. Our top five scorers in round 2 all included a featured article among their submissions and each scored over 500 points. They were:

Other notable performances were put in by Sammi Brie, Thebiguglyalien, MyCatIsAChonk, Chicago PCN02WPS, and London AirshipJungleman29.

So far contestants have achieved thirteen featured articles between them, one being a joint effort, and forty-nine good articles. The judges are pleased with the thorough reviews that are being performed, and have hardly had to reject any. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

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Featured article review for Dungeons & Dragons (album)

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Helen Cowie

Nice work on Helen Cowie (historian). Girth Summit (blether) 09:42, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

@Girth Summit: Thanks! I read her book Victims of Fashion, which is great, and interviewed her about it for a podcast I manage. (You can listen in here, if you're interested.) Seemed a shame that she didn't have an article. Josh Milburn (talk) 09:15, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Yes, she's a really impressive scholar, her output is extraordinary. I know her through my partner's work, we often go for drinks in the Golden Balls or the Phoenix. Girth Summit (blether) 09:41, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Women in Red - June 2023

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Category:Italian ethicists has been nominated for merging

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A tag has been placed on Category:Axis of Advance albums indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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Women in Red July 2023

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WikiCup 2023 July newsletter

The third round of the 2023 WikiCup has come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 175 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

Contestants achieved 11 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 47 good articles, 72 featured or good article reviews, over 100 DYKs and 40 ITN appearances. As always, any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Wikipedia policies, regardless of the review process.

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Ethics & the Environment moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Ethics & the Environment. Unfortunately, it is not ready for publishing because it needs more sources to establish notability. Your article is now a draft where you can improve it undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:18, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

@MPGuy2824: Ok, sure. I'll give it some time over the next few days. Josh Milburn (talk) 12:03, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
@MPGuy2824: I've made a start, and Randykitty said they'll have a look in a few days, too. Josh Milburn (talk) 14:48, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

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Women in Red 8th Anniversary

Women in Red 8th Anniversary
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Catia Faria's book Animal Ethics in the Wild notability

Hi, I'm thinking of creating an article for this book, but I'm not sure if it meets sufficient notability yet because I've only managed to find one formal review: https://philpapers.org/rec/BOBCFA

Do you know of any other sources that would help demonstrate sufficient notability for an article? Throughthemind (talk) 10:20, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

@Throughthemind: You timed this question well; I've just had my review accepted in Utilitas; I suspect it'll be online in a couple of weeks, but you can see the author accepted version here. The Bekoff's Psychology Today piece or Johannsen's interview as part of the New Books Network are surely citable, but I wouldn't lean on them for determining notability. But two "proper" book reviews (Bobier and I) is probably just enough. I've no doubt other book reviews will appear in time. Faria and CUP have also done an impressive job of gathering pre-publication praise, but, again, I don't think that's going to be helpful for etablishing notability. Josh Milburn (talk) 11:07, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
Perfect, thanks! I'd say that's enough to make a start. Throughthemind (talk) 14:46, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
Article here: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Animal_Ethics_in_the_Wild Throughthemind (talk) 17:17, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
Great to see! I'll drop in some more references if/when I see them. Josh Milburn (talk) 09:02, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Dolwyddelan Castle

Hello Josh! Thank you for reviewing my DYK nomination so quickly. I can confirm I don't need to review another DYK nom as this is my first nomination, so that hopefully means we're good to go. Best wishes, A.D.Hope (talk) 18:48, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi, do you know if Siobhan O'Sullivan was an animal rights advocate or was she was animal welfare? There are a couple of confused articles, I would like to sort them out so that they have the correct categories and template. She is currently on the animal rights template. Psychologist Guy (talk) 21:05, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

This link (her university) says animal welfare [1] Psychologist Guy (talk) 21:08, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
@Psychologist Guy: She was an advocate of animal rights (in the broad sense at the very least), but a lot of her work was about animal welfare, in part because her work was a little more emperical than that of a lot of people working on animals and political theory. I'd argue that she's an important name in animal rights because of her major role in the 'political turn', which is a mostly rights-y literature. Here's a paper by Tony Milligan that explicitly situates her in that way. Meanwhile, in this coauthored paper, she explicitly rejects the animal rights/animal welfare binary. So I think it'd be fair to classify her as part of both 'animal rights' and 'animal welfare'. Josh Milburn (talk) 07:22, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. I know some other authors have also rejected the animal rights or welfare classification. It's makes it a bit harder to categorize them at Wikipedia. I know that Marc Bekoff firmly opposes animal welfare but he sometimes works with such groups. I am not convinced with the authors arguments but it is sad to see both authors are now deceased who wrote "The Political Turn in Animal Ethics". Someone you may be interested in is Karen Bradshaw author of Wildlife as Property Owners [2], I believe she would qualify for an article at Wikipedia, I might try and create it next month. Psychologist Guy (talk) 10:40, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
@Psychologist Guy: The Political Turn in Animal Ethics was from O'Sullivan and Robert Garner -- Garner is still alive (to the best of my knowledge!). He's a different person from Gary Varner, who recently died. And yes, I know Karen, but not well. I interviewed her a couple of years ago, and I agree that an article about her would be good. Fun fact: Her book was included in a goody bag for the Grammies! Josh Milburn (talk) 14:42, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the correction, I believe I have confused those two authors before in the past. That's a good podcast with Karen Bradshaw, I have listened to some of your other podcasts including one with Michael Huemer. An issue with BLP's with people involved with animal rights or welfare is that they are not all notable so will probably end up being removed from Wikipedia, for example, Jonathan Birch wouldn't qualify for an article, so it would be pointless me spending time creating it [3].
Most of my article creations are for deceased individuals, I find the historical stuff more interesting and there are more sources. I have created articles for Laurids Smith, Humphrey Primatt, David Renaud Boullier, Herman Daggett, Richard Dean, Herman Daggett, Christian Adam Dann, Wilhelm Dietler, C. W. Hume etc. What's interesting to me is that many of these thinkers have already proposed many of the "new" ideas taken up by recent researchers in the field of animal rights/welfare but these old researchers are forgotten. The problem is that many of these old books written in the 1700 and 1800s were not translated into English. I plan on translating many of these works myself and uploading them to archive.org for free because they are in the public domain. Wilhelm Dietler' book for example makes an early argument from marginal cases that has gone unnoticed. Every year a lot of new papers come out on animal ethics but there is very little to do with historical research. I have a list of forgotten European animal rights writers from the 1700s and 1800s. If I am able to translate the books and put them out there, hopefully modern researchers might cite some of the older researchers. Psychologist Guy (talk) 21:27, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
Yes, I'm sympathetic to what you say. There are a few 'forgotten' thinkers who are now becoming a bit more familiar to animal ethicists (Porphyry, Salt, Cobbe etc.) and some effort to recognise the animal-friendly elements of well-known thinkers. But I agree with you that there's lots of work to be done.
I think Birch is Wikipedia-notable, by the way. His work is (as far as philosophy goes) very highly cited, and (as far as I can remember) there's a fairly direct link between some of his work and government policy, so I suspect he meets WP:ACADEMIC. Meanwhile, his book was widely reviewed (eg, 1, 2, 3 (by Michael Ruse, no less), 4, 5 ('review article'), 6 (ditto)) so I suspect he meets WP:AUTHOR. I'll look into putting together an article myself, and we can see if it sticks. Josh Milburn (talk) 08:08, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
Made a start. Josh Milburn (talk) 21:05, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
I agree I didn't realise that, Jonathan Birch has a lot of reliable book reviews I see you have found so I think he would qualify for an article easily. I have just realised that you can actually take screenshots of certain YouTube videos that are uploaded on YouTube under a CC license (example Joey Carbstrong [4]). They are freely licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license. Therefore in theory your article creations could add a YouTube snapshot such as for Bob Fischer etc. I created a lot of articles and didn't realise this, so I will probably be updating many with images. Psychologist Guy (talk) 17:20, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
Yes, great point. I'll look into that! Josh Milburn (talk) 08:50, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
@Psychologist Guy: Jonathan Birch (philosopher) is now in the mainspace. Josh Milburn (talk) 18:47, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for creating the article you have done a top quality job. I was just watching one of his videos [5]. I couldn't find a birth date for Birch but it probably isn't important. Psychologist Guy (talk) 12:27, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

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On 26 August 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jonathan Birch (philosopher), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a report by the philosopher Jonathan Birch and colleagues led to cephalopods and decapods being recognised as sentient under the UK's Animal Welfare (Sentience) Act? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jonathan Birch (philosopher). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Jonathan Birch (philosopher)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Sue Donaldson

There seems to be some speculation online that Sue Donaldson is the mother of MrBeast. I believe this is false information (it's a different Donaldson) but people have said the photographs of the mother match. I don't believe it I think it is just a coincidence as the ladies look a bit similar, but maybe you know more about this. Psychologist Guy (talk) 11:14, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

@Psychologist Guy: Definitely not the same person. I'll keep an eye on the article. Josh Milburn (talk) 12:11, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the info, I have also managed to find a lot of reviews so the article can be expanded. The Zoopolis book was widely reviewed, I have counted 14 reviews in total, I have access to about 5 of them. Psychologist Guy (talk) 16:33, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
Yes -- Zoopolis is very significant. It wasn't the first book exploring animals in political philosophy, but it's surely the one that made the topic (minimally) mainstream. Josh Milburn (talk) 08:05, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
@Psychologist Guy: By the way, page 8 of Foods that Don't Bite Back (first line of the preface), Donaldson says 'I am frequently asked to explain why I am a vegan'. Her account in Zoopolis certainly leaves the door open for at least a few non-vegan foods, but I'd be very surprised if she was regularly diverging from veganism. If you don't think she belongs on the list or in the categories, so be it, but I'd be surprised to see her referred to as anything other than a vegan. Josh Milburn (talk) 10:02, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
I am doing a lot of work on the list of vegans article so I still need to look into Sue Donaldson. It turns out many of these celebrities are not actually vegan, they are on fish and eggs or other seafood. I always suspected as much. From my own personal experience the people who remain vegan long-term, I am talking decades here without cheating are animal rights advocates, most others give it up or end up cheating. Sue Donaldson might be a strict vegan as she is involved with animal rights, I just haven't seen enough sourcing on it. I will look more into it, I suspect you are probably right. I will take a look at her cookbook. Psychologist Guy (talk) 20:57, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

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If it is okay with everyone, since we are discussing content now, I want to move this discussion to the article's talk page just in case anyone else wants to chime in. Does that seem appropriate to everyone? Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:57, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

No objection from me! Josh Milburn (talk) 06:00, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

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